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It's a true qualifying battle this year. Bleeding heck!
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100 poles lewis

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100th pole!

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Incredibly disappointing from Perez.

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Shame about Perez being in 7th.
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I doubt the Red Bull is as good as the Merc.... I think the fans and pundits getting a little excited now that Merc has finally some competition..i don't think Bottas is only a tenth off Verstappen
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Get in there Lewis! 100 poles!

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Ocon is schooling Fernando "I'm better than Hamilton and Verstappen" Alonso ... what a disgrace to be completely outpaced by a journeyman driver...

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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:14 pm
I doubt the Red Bull is as good as the Merc.... I think the fans and pundits getting a little excited now that Merc has finally some competition..i don't think Bottas is only a tenth off Verstappen
Here we go... Bottas is a very good qualifier, nothing special in the race though.
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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
He was 8th. I think it may be related to him messing up his car a little when he went off earlier on.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Incredibly disappointing from Perez.
Yeah it's only race 4 for his new team but he's not delivering as RB would've hoped.
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Lewis sandbagging until q3 lol
Perez one sec off wow.
Alonso being embarrassed by Ocon
Leclerc ahead of sainz only on the last run. Clutch performance.
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F1Tyrant wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:16 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:14 pm
I doubt the Red Bull is as good as the Merc.... I think the fans and pundits getting a little excited now that Merc has finally some competition..i don't think Bottas is only a tenth off Verstappen
Here we go... Bottas is a very good qualifier, nothing special in the race though.
Based on what? What special things did Bottas do in qualifying before merc? remind me again of any standout performances

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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.

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I think Ricciardo missed the flag at the end of Q3. Unlikely to make much difference as not many improved.

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F1Tyrant wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:16 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:14 pm
I doubt the Red Bull is as good as the Merc.... I think the fans and pundits getting a little excited now that Merc has finally some competition..i don't think Bottas is only a tenth off Verstappen
Here we go... Bottas is a very good qualifier, nothing special in the race though.
I do think Hamilton makes Bottas look worse at qualifying to many. I bet there will be floods of comments (rightly so) pointing out Hamilton's 100 poles. But then they need to remember that Bottas is against this driver. If he managed to beat him around a third of every season in qualifying which usually is the case, it has to be said that Bottas is at least a very good qualifier.

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Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period

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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:17 pm
F1Tyrant wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:16 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:14 pm
I doubt the Red Bull is as good as the Merc.... I think the fans and pundits getting a little excited now that Merc has finally some competition..i don't think Bottas is only a tenth off Verstappen
Here we go... Bottas is a very good qualifier, nothing special in the race though.
Based on what? What special things did Bottas do in qualifying before merc? remind me again of any standout performances
Canada 2013, qualifying 3rd, is one.

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Azi wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:21 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:17 pm
F1Tyrant wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:16 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:14 pm
I doubt the Red Bull is as good as the Merc.... I think the fans and pundits getting a little excited now that Merc has finally some competition..i don't think Bottas is only a tenth off Verstappen
Here we go... Bottas is a very good qualifier, nothing special in the race though.
Based on what? What special things did Bottas do in qualifying before merc? remind me again of any standout performances
Canada 2013, qualifying 3rd, is one.
Lol ok... I don't ever remember Bottas being rated as a qualifying specialist a la Russel/Leclerc... He maybe a solid qualifier but never was special... Certainly not anywhere near the speed of Verstappen who has consistently blown away his teammates

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
F1Tyrant wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:16 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:14 pm
I doubt the Red Bull is as good as the Merc.... I think the fans and pundits getting a little excited now that Merc has finally some competition..i don't think Bottas is only a tenth off Verstappen
Here we go... Bottas is a very good qualifier, nothing special in the race though.
I do think Hamilton makes Bottas look worse at qualifying to many. I bet there will be floods of comments (rightly so) pointing out Hamilton's 100 poles. But then they need to remember that Bottas is against this driver. If he managed to beat him around a third of every season in qualifying which usually is the case, it has to be said that Bottas is at least a very good qualifier.
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Lewis got another pole position??

Oh.

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Did i just hear Tsunoda insinuating that his car may not be the same as Gasly!?... Oh boy...this guy has some nerves

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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?

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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:17 pm
Based on what? What special things did Bottas do in qualifying before merc? remind me again of any standout performances
Bottas put his Williams in the top 4 grid slots 20 times in 4 years. That's excellent given Williams wasn't that great from 2015-.

As for standout performances:
  • Canada 2013 - Bottas qualified P3 in a terrible Williams as a rookie. Ahead of Rosberg and Webber.
  • Russia 2016 - Bottas qualified P2 ahead of Hamilton.
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JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?
Ok, let me ask it in a different way..Which top driver have you seen in your lifetime that took 200 races to win a race? Have you heard in F1 the best drivers make it to the best cars... what does it tell you about Perez?

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F1Tyrant wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:31 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:17 pm
Based on what? What special things did Bottas do in qualifying before merc? remind me again of any standout performances
Bottas put his Williams in the top 4 grid slots 20 times in 4 years. That's excellent given Williams wasn't that great from 2015-.

As for standout performances:
  • Canada 2013 - Bottas qualified P3 in a terrible Williams as a rookie. Ahead of Rosberg and Webber.
  • Russia 2016 - Bottas qualified P2 ahead of Hamilton.
So you're telling me Bottas was viewed as a qualifying specialist before he joined Merc? Simple yes/no answer..
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So now that Perez has resorted to looking much like his 2 predecessors in that seat who do we want next? Maybe getting hulk out of retirement? Lol
It really doesn’t matter.

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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:31 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?
Ok, let me ask it in a different way..Which top driver have you seen in your lifetime that took 200 races to win a race? Have you heard in F1 the best drivers make it to the best cars... what does it tell you about Perez?
He didn’t make it to the best car because he isn’t as good as the leading drivers of his generation, but is still imo a very good driver.

He was unfortunate that his move to a top team last time coincided with the start of McLaren’s downturn.

Anyway, are you going to answer my question?

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JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:34 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:31 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm


It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?
Ok, let me ask it in a different way..Which top driver have you seen in your lifetime that took 200 races to win a race? Have you heard in F1 the best drivers make it to the best cars... what does it tell you about Perez?
He didn’t make it to the best car because he isn’t as good as the leading drivers of his generation, but is still imo a very good driver.

He was unfortunate that his move to a top team last time coincided with the start of McLaren’s downturn.

Anyway, are you going to answer my question?
F1 grid is unfortunately littered with "very good drivers"
I'm not going through 200 races of a an average driver to see where he could have won... You can either look at the historical data or pretend like Perez was an anomaly..i prefer the more reasonable explanation..Simply not good enough

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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:36 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:34 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:31 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm


Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?
Ok, let me ask it in a different way..Which top driver have you seen in your lifetime that took 200 races to win a race? Have you heard in F1 the best drivers make it to the best cars... what does it tell you about Perez?
He didn’t make it to the best car because he isn’t as good as the leading drivers of his generation, but is still imo a very good driver.

He was unfortunate that his move to a top team last time coincided with the start of McLaren’s downturn.

Anyway, are you going to answer my question?
F1 grid is unfortunately littered with "very good drivers"
I'm not going through 200 races of a an average driver to see where he could have won... You can either look at the historical data or pretend like Perez was an anomaly..i prefer the more reasonable explanation..Simply not good enough
So you can’t back up your point that any driver who takes 200 races to win a race isn’t good enough? Unsurprising.

He’s just below that top level and imo that’s a pretty high level.

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JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?

He sort of challenged for the win at Monza 2012 after doing brilliant tire managing and catching the eventual race winner Hamilton in the later stages but besides that he never had the car to win until this year. Perez is a good driver.

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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:28 pm
Did i just hear Tsunoda insinuating that his car may not be the same as Gasly!?... Oh boy...this guy has some nerves
You heard correct.

The basic understanding I took away from his comments is he suggested the team is giving him an inferior car setup & the errors are really not his fault.

I think he even at one point said words to the effect that the car cannot keep up with him.

Not a bad allegation to make from a rookie in just his 4th F1 weekend.
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JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:39 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:36 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:34 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:31 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm


He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?
Ok, let me ask it in a different way..Which top driver have you seen in your lifetime that took 200 races to win a race? Have you heard in F1 the best drivers make it to the best cars... what does it tell you about Perez?
He didn’t make it to the best car because he isn’t as good as the leading drivers of his generation, but is still imo a very good driver.

He was unfortunate that his move to a top team last time coincided with the start of McLaren’s downturn.

Anyway, are you going to answer my question?
F1 grid is unfortunately littered with "very good drivers"
I'm not going through 200 races of a an average driver to see where he could have won... You can either look at the historical data or pretend like Perez was an anomaly..i prefer the more reasonable explanation..Simply not good enough
So you can’t back up your point that any driver who takes 200 races to win a race isn’t good enough? Unsurprising.

He’s just below that top level and imo that’s a pretty high level.
Lol, what's your definition of "good enough".. Yes i think he is good enough to be in F1... No i don't think he is good enough to be a consistent race winner or WDC challenger..
Again, F1 is LITTERED with good enough drivers...That doesn't mean much!

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kleefton wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:40 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?

He sort of challenged for the win at Monza 2012 after doing brilliant tire managing and catching the eventual race winner Hamilton in the later stages but besides that he never had the car to win until this year. Perez is a good driver.
Exactly... Malaysia 2012 too. They were brilliant performances rather than delivering the expected result.

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kleefton wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:40 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Shame about Perez being in 7th.
It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?

He sort of challenged for the win at Monza 2012 after doing brilliant tire managing and catching the eventual race winner Hamilton in the later stages but besides that he never had the car to win until this year. Perez is a good driver.
He's just suffering from the famed RB#2 curse.

Guaranteed to turn a decent driver into a basket case.
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JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:42 pm
kleefton wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:40 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm


It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?

He sort of challenged for the win at Monza 2012 after doing brilliant tire managing and catching the eventual race winner Hamilton in the later stages but besides that he never had the car to win until this year. Perez is a good driver.
Exactly... Malaysia 2012 too. They were brilliant performances rather than delivering the expected result.
And who was his teammate again during that time? Oh i see his teammate was shoved out of F1... :lol:
Looked very average against a decent teammate like Button and now again Verstappen...

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JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:42 pm
kleefton wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:40 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Rockie wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:19 pm


It seems he cant handle being in a big team, doing same things he was doing at Mclaren back then.
Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?

He sort of challenged for the win at Monza 2012 after doing brilliant tire managing and catching the eventual race winner Hamilton in the later stages but besides that he never had the car to win until this year. Perez is a good driver.
Exactly... Malaysia 2012 too. They were brilliant performances rather than delivering the expected result.
Olivier Panis won a race too, that too in Monaco..

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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:44 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:42 pm
kleefton wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:40 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:29 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm


Or maybe he is just overrated? Any driver that takes 200 races to win a race is not that good... Period
He might be overrated but your reasoning is ridiculous.

Which races in his 200 should he have won before Sakhir last year?

He sort of challenged for the win at Monza 2012 after doing brilliant tire managing and catching the eventual race winner Hamilton in the later stages but besides that he never had the car to win until this year. Perez is a good driver.
Exactly... Malaysia 2012 too. They were brilliant performances rather than delivering the expected result.
And who was his teammate again during that time? Oh i see his teammate was shoved out of F1... :lol:
Looked very average against a decent teammate like Button and now again Verstappen...
Button vs Perez has been done a lot on this forum, especially in the last year. Perez didn’t look average vs Button.

Anyway, gonna leave it here.

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Anybody feel Alonso should hang up his boots? What is he expecting to achieve anyways? Alpine is never going to be better than Merc and RB and he can't even keep up with Ocon!? That means even with a superior car he isn't going to win anything against the top F1 drivers..Does he really feel he has a WDC in him?!!? Embarrassed for him especially after hyping up himself
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schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:26 pm
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:20 pm
F1Tyrant wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:16 pm
schumilegend wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:14 pm
I doubt the Red Bull is as good as the Merc.... I think the fans and pundits getting a little excited now that Merc has finally some competition..i don't think Bottas is only a tenth off Verstappen
Here we go... Bottas is a very good qualifier, nothing special in the race though.
I do think Hamilton makes Bottas look worse at qualifying to many. I bet there will be floods of comments (rightly so) pointing out Hamilton's 100 poles. But then they need to remember that Bottas is against this driver. If he managed to beat him around a third of every season in qualifying which usually is the case, it has to be said that Bottas is at least a very good qualifier.
Unnecessary derogatory comments about Bottas, removed by moderation team
I'm not going to hide that I like Bottas, and will openly admit that I sometimes defend him too much (similar with most drivers that people support)

But last weekend and today was another indication that he was quick and right up with there with 2 of the best qualifiers. He is a strong qualifier and that is no doubt.

There will be several reasons why you don't think they are though.

1: You really don't like Bottas. Some of your comments in the past show this. You said "Bottas what a clown" and made your voice heard by repeating that in 2 other threads as well..... There was a large number of other overly negative comments pointing at him too at the time he went against Russell.

2: You also don't rate Hamilton highly at all, but that just makes the reason why you have your name a little bit more clear ;) Some of your comments such as stating it is the car that is the maga star rather than him. Then "Mr. Fake 7 time champ" sort of helps show you under rate him that bit more.

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