2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread

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FormulaFun wrote:
JN23 wrote:Hamilton and Vettel to one stop?
Probably, Hamilton usually has really good tyre management so should be able to make it
Yeah he does but I can see him struggling vs those on a two stop in the closing stages

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I have absolutely 0 faith on that graphic

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Well Max managed to get Magnussen ! 16 or so still to go !


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What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? Mercedes NEED to undercut vettel with Hamilton of they want to win, they can't even get anywhere near cars ahead
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FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel
Here we go!

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JN23 wrote:
FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel
Here we go!
Very exciting!!! Ok vettel just let them go? Surely thats just not gonna work at all.
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One stopper looks to be much the better strategy?

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Honestly if hamilton wins this that will be a stunning achievement

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The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.

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FormulaFun wrote:
JN23 wrote:
FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel
Here we go!
Very exciting!!! Ok vettel just let them go? Surely thats just not gonna work at all.
Assuming they're going for the offset strategy because Hamilton would be passed Vettel after one lap

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mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race

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mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race
Not sure about that, tyres are holding up really well compared to original expectations as long as you look after them

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Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
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Race could come to Vettel and Bottas maybe.
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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Yes I think that vettel could have repassed Hamilton despite the undercut but now I don't know

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JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race
Not sure. Leclerc is no faster than Vettel even at this point in the race. For a twos topper to work he would need to be catching him.

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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.
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I think Merc were way too eager with Hamilton and did stop much too early, but we'll see.

I like Vettel for the win here.

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Are Vettel/Bottas trying to go medium-soft?

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I really, really hope we don't get a safety car because this is lining up for a fascination conclusion. A safety car now would ruin everything.

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Invade wrote:Yes - Max's mishaps have sucked a lot of life out of the race, and it was of his own making.

Merc in damage limitation regarding brake temps. We can see Albon has the pace so imagine the pressure Max could be applying - though they are controlling the pace at the front no doubt.
Wasn;t max's fault.. look carefully at the start, Lewis lost his rear (out of hape) and forced Max off track..

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mpls2 wrote:
Invade wrote:Yes - Max's mishaps have sucked a lot of life out of the race, and it was of his own making.

Merc in damage limitation regarding brake temps. We can see Albon has the pace so imagine the pressure Max could be applying - though they are controlling the pace at the front no doubt.
Wasn;t max's fault.. look carefully at the start, Lewis lost his rear (out of hape) and forced Max off track..
I thought he got the puncture in overtaking Bottas. Perhaps I'm wrong.

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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.
I can only think they over-reacted way too much to Albon pitting. There was no benefit in Leclerc pitting that early. The time gap between each car was going to be constant if he stayed out.
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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
F1_Ernie wrote:
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.
I can only think they over-reacted way too much to Albon pitting. There was no benefit in Leclerc pitting that early. The time gap between each car was going to be constant if he stayed out.
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No idea who will win this

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bottas might even be ahead of hamiton by race end

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Vettel has Bottas covered with a 1 stop. Leclerc has Hamilton covered if they both 2 stop. Hamilton only wins if he 1 stops but then Vettel probably overtakes him with tyre delta.
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Here we go, Merc will try to undercut Vet with Bottas. Let's go.

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This race is EXTREMELY tasty right now.

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Invade wrote:Here we go, Merc will try to undercut Vet with Bottas. Let's go.
didn't work

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Hamilton is done now. 4th and needs to pit again.
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Who was recently arguing that running longer and passing towards the end of the race never comes off?

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Yeah think they just pulled the trigger a little early, would he shocked if he gets to the end on those tyres with any kind of pace

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Vettel's gonna enjoy this one.

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Lewis to pit again as soon as Vettel passes him? Can't imagine Lewis will make it too easy for Seb to pass after the first lap fun!

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mikeyg123 wrote:Who was recently arguing that running longer and passing towards the end of the race never comes off?
Never works that often for Mercedes. Mercedes just pit Hamilton way to early.
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Leclerc pit disaster.
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OOF - Charles has a 6.2 second pitstop.

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Invade wrote:OOF - Charles has a 6.2 second pitstop.
1.9 for Albon!

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Vettel free to hunt down Lewis for an enjoyable pass on track.

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