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DOTD Canada 2019

Lewis Hamilton
27
18%
Sebastian Vettel
26
17%
Charles Leclerc
4
3%
Valtteri Bottas
0
No votes
Max Verstappen
4
3%
Daniel Ricciardo
29
19%
Nico Hulkenberg
10
6%
Pierre Gasly
0
No votes
Lance Stroll
41
27%
Daniil Kvyat
7
5%
Carlos Sainz
0
No votes
Sergio Perez
1
1%
Antonio Giovinazzi
0
No votes
Romain Grosjean
0
No votes
Kimi Räikkönen
1
1%
George Russell
1
1%
Kevin Magnussen
0
No votes
Robert Kubica
0
No votes
Alexander Albon
0
No votes
Lando Norris
3
2%
 
Total votes: 154

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Three options available.
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As a Lance hater I have to say it's Stroll for me Today

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Stroll and Ricciardo for me.

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Stroll

Vettel throwing away another race win with another driving mistake - incredible.

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went for two Renault drivers and one RP driver.

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Honourable mention for Hamilton.

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Hamilton, Ricciardo, Stroll

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Stroll, Ricciardo and Hulkenberg.

Hulkenberg was given a team order not to pass Ricciardo, and he had upshift problems in the race. Ricciardo did have worn tyres from fighting Bottas - but given the fact he was doing that solely for the satisfaction of it, I don't think that's a legitimate reason for the team order though. Preserving the result is though.

I think that this was one of Hamilton's best drives this season, but ultimately I don't feel satisfied with the inherited win, even if I feel in isolation that a penalty was probably deserved. Because of the bad taste the penalty incident left on the fight for the lead I'm not voting for Hamilton.

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How can someone vote Hamilton? Hamilton made like 4 mistakes at the hairpin today and easily closed the gap to Vettel after each mistake. Mercedes was clearly the fastest car in race trim, especially on mediums. He finished second on track.

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KingVoid wrote:How can someone vote Hamilton? Hamilton made like 4 mistakes at the hairpin today and easily closed the gap to Vettel after each mistake. Mercedes was clearly the fastest car in race trim, especially on mediums. He finished second on track.
Mostly because he took the fight to Vettel and didn't make a costly error. Locking up while in another car's wake and while not under any threat from behind is not a costly mistake. Running off the track into the grass while leading and with another car less than a second behind is. Your emotions have clearly been triggered by today's events but the fact is that Hamilton got the better of Vettel yet again on a day where the win was on for Sebastian.

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sandman1347 wrote:Your emotions have clearly been triggered by today's events but the fact is that Hamilton got the better of Vettel yet again on a day where the win was on for Sebastian.
Correction: Vettel beat Hamilton today. FIA beat Vettel.

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KingVoid wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:Your emotions have clearly been triggered by today's events but the fact is that Hamilton got the better of Vettel yet again on a day where the win was on for Sebastian.
Correction: Vettel beat Hamilton today. FIA beat Vettel.
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How many times did Hamilton mess up the hairpin by the way? 4 or 5? His overall driving this weekend was clearly worse than Vettel.

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KingVoid wrote:How many times did Hamilton mess up the hairpin by the way? 4 or 5? His overall driving this weekend was clearly worse than Vettel.
From what I saw, Hamilton was in the car with the slower outright pace at the track but yet still managed to win the race. Vettel, on the other hand, made a crucial error while in the lead that ultimately cost him the win. Locking up the brakes into a corner can be a significant mistake if it forces you to run wide or costs you a position but it didn't for Lewis in this grand prix. I think it would have been very difficult for Hamilton to make a pass on track because Montreal has become a difficult overtaking track in the post-2017 aero era. Had Vettel held his nerve and kept it on the black stuff, he would probably have won the race.

You want to give Sebastian driver of the day? Go ahead but I think that's ridiculous.

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Hamilton messed up the hairpin 4 or 5 times and was on Vettel's gearbox the following sector, easily able to follow him through the corners without losing any performance from dirty air. How utterly delusional do you have to be to think that Ferrari was quicker today. Mercedes was the fastest car by a big margin on hard tyres.

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Crucially Seb was much faster through sector 3 so some of those lock ups from Hamilton are down to him trying to get close.

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The Pirelli North America CEO who had the courage to spray champagne on Vettel. Why the CEO of Pirelli wearing Merc gear is still an unanswered question to me.

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Stroll. That was a lesson in tyre management and strategy. Kudos the both Renault drivers as well.
Honourable mentions to Gunther Steiner for his message to Magnussen during the race and to Vettel for his tongue-in-cheek swapping of the position boards post-race.
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ReservoirDog wrote:The Pirelli North America CEO who had the courage to spray champagne on Vettel. Why the CEO of Pirelli wearing Merc gear is still an unanswered question to me.
?

The lady was from the mercedes engine team in brackley

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For me Stroll, Ricciardo and Kvyat. Kvyat was decisive on track and is rebuilding his reputation. Stroll had easily his best race ever (I thought he was a tad fortunate in Australia).

I know Hulk got close to Ricciardo, but Danny had messed his tyres up fighting Bottas and doing wonders for Renaults reputation by fighting these fights. Had Ricciardo just let Bottas by, he'd have had a much easier time getting 6th, but without the great PR for those boys and girls in yellow

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Lance Stroll was definitely the standout performer for me. By far the most accomplished drive in his career.

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Argh, how can I correct a vote? I wanted Stroll and I voted for Perez... I need a coffee immediately

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Stroll by a distance. Not a fan, but fair play to him for this performance.

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sandman1347 wrote:
KingVoid wrote:How can someone vote Hamilton? Hamilton made like 4 mistakes at the hairpin today and easily closed the gap to Vettel after each mistake. Mercedes was clearly the fastest car in race trim, especially on mediums. He finished second on track.
Mostly because he took the fight to Vettel and didn't make a costly error. Locking up while in another car's wake and while not under any threat from behind is not a costly mistake. Running off the track into the grass while leading and with another car less than a second behind is. Your emotions have clearly been triggered by today's events but the fact is that Hamilton got the better of Vettel yet again on a day where the win was on for Sebastian.
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sandman1347 wrote:
KingVoid wrote:How many times did Hamilton mess up the hairpin by the way? 4 or 5? His overall driving this weekend was clearly worse than Vettel.
From what I saw, Hamilton was in the car with the slower outright pace at the track but yet still managed to win the race. Vettel, on the other hand, made a crucial error while in the lead that ultimately cost him the win. Locking up the brakes into a corner can be a significant mistake if it forces you to run wide or costs you a position but it didn't for Lewis in this grand prix. I think it would have been very difficult for Hamilton to make a pass on track because Montreal has become a difficult overtaking track in the post-2017 aero era. Had Vettel held his nerve and kept it on the black stuff, he would probably have won the race.

You want to give Sebastian driver of the day? Go ahead but I think that's ridiculous.
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KingVoid wrote:Hamilton messed up the hairpin 4 or 5 times and was on Vettel's gearbox the following sector, easily able to follow him through the corners without losing any performance from dirty air. How utterly delusional do you have to be to think that Ferrari was quicker today. Mercedes was the fastest car by a big margin on hard tyres.
Lewis locked up repeatedly at a place he knew it would not cost him much if anything but maintained control of the car, and the only time he left the track durng the entire race was when he was avoiding the out of control Seb missile. Seb locked up at a critical chicane with virtually no run off area, drove off the track, rejoined out of control and consequently lost the race.

If the Mercedes was the faster car then what was Bottas doing back in 4th, best part of a minute behind the other Ferrari?

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TedStriker wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Hamilton messed up the hairpin 4 or 5 times and was on Vettel's gearbox the following sector, easily able to follow him through the corners without losing any performance from dirty air. How utterly delusional do you have to be to think that Ferrari was quicker today. Mercedes was the fastest car by a big margin on hard tyres.
Lewis locked up repeatedly at a place he knew it would not cost him much if anything but maintained control of the car, and the only time he left the track durng the entire race was when he was avoiding the out of control Seb missile. Seb locked up at a critical chicane with virtually no run off area, drove off the track, rejoined out of control and consequently lost the race.

If the Mercedes was the faster car then what was Bottas doing back in 4th, best part of a minute behind the other Ferrari?
You write this as if a driver is ok with flat spotting his tyres.

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Vettel, Stroll and Kvyat
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Siao7 wrote:
TedStriker wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Hamilton messed up the hairpin 4 or 5 times and was on Vettel's gearbox the following sector, easily able to follow him through the corners without losing any performance from dirty air. How utterly delusional do you have to be to think that Ferrari was quicker today. Mercedes was the fastest car by a big margin on hard tyres.
Lewis locked up repeatedly at a place he knew it would not cost him much if anything but maintained control of the car, and the only time he left the track durng the entire race was when he was avoiding the out of control Seb missile. Seb locked up at a critical chicane with virtually no run off area, drove off the track, rejoined out of control and consequently lost the race.

If the Mercedes was the faster car then what was Bottas doing back in 4th, best part of a minute behind the other Ferrari?
You write this as if a driver is ok with flat spotting his tyres.
Why do you think a lock up automatically leads to flat spotting? You think drivers like Hamilton and Max; who also was locking up regularly at the hairpin, drove most of the race with a flat spot? Iv'e lost count of the number of times Coultard or Brundle have to correct the commentator when they think a lock up, particularly on the inside, is going to cause problems

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shoot999 wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
TedStriker wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Hamilton messed up the hairpin 4 or 5 times and was on Vettel's gearbox the following sector, easily able to follow him through the corners without losing any performance from dirty air. How utterly delusional do you have to be to think that Ferrari was quicker today. Mercedes was the fastest car by a big margin on hard tyres.
Lewis locked up repeatedly at a place he knew it would not cost him much if anything but maintained control of the car, and the only time he left the track durng the entire race was when he was avoiding the out of control Seb missile. Seb locked up at a critical chicane with virtually no run off area, drove off the track, rejoined out of control and consequently lost the race.

If the Mercedes was the faster car then what was Bottas doing back in 4th, best part of a minute behind the other Ferrari?
You write this as if a driver is ok with flat spotting his tyres.
Why do you think a lock up automatically leads to flat spotting? You think drivers like Hamilton and Max; who also was locking up regularly at the hairpin, drove most of the race with a flat spot? Iv'e lost count of the number of times Coultard or Brundle have to correct the commentator when they think a lock up, particularly on the inside, is going to cause problems
It was the "repeatedly" part of the locking up that I was considering. If that doesn't run the risk to flat spot one's tyres, then I do not think that I have much more to add to this.

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Respectful nod to Stroll but for me Kvyat for his overtakes. His return this year is proving to be the story Kubica's return should have been.
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I voted for Stroll, possibly his best race in F1.

Honourable mentions to Kvyat, Ricciardo and Hulk.

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Hamilton for not giving up and forcing an error from vettel

Riccardo and Hulkenberg equally for almost indentical finishing position 14 points for Renault

Stroll for all round fantastic race

0 sympathy votes for vettel - f'd it up yet again

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DOLOMITE wrote:Respectful nod to Stroll but for me Kvyat for his overtakes. His return this year is proving to be the story Kubica's return should have been.
I didn't mention Kyvat in my earlier post. I'll still maintain my vote for Stroll but, yes, Kyvat drove a great race. I am pleased to see him back on the grid.
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