Zoue wrote:pokerman wrote:Zoue wrote:pokerman wrote:Zoue wrote:Well Alonso started his F1 career in 2001, so participated in both "eras." As did Kimi. Personally I'd put Hakkinen above Rosberg and I'm pretty confident I'm not alone in that. I'd be inclined to put JV and Hill above him, too, although not sure how widespread that opinion would be, tbh. Different times, different types of cars but IIRC Rubens was reasonably competitive against Button and he was never really considered one of the elite of his time, while quite a number of people rate JB fairly highly.
There are always going to be outliers and it's impossible to do a complete like-for like comparison but I see no evidence that the drivers today are in any way ahead of the drivers of any other era, and certainly not "far" ahead as you claimed.
As to dismissing the Schumacher anecdote, I'm not sure how your unsupported claims should get a free pass while my factual example to the contrary should be considered irrelevant. Bit strange.
So you basically rate JV and Hill at a similar level to Hamilton?
No I'd put Hamilton higher
Rosberg was respectively competitive with Hamilton.
He was indeed. But I'd still put Hamilton higher. Wouldn't you?
I'm kind of wondering how you squeeze JV and Hill into the gap between Hamilton and Rosberg?
Frustratingly there is no logic being used when the logic is available, Massa beat a 34 year old JV when they raced at Sauber, one of the few drivers that Massa managed to beat. Massa got beat 3 years on the trot by Bottas a driver widely accepted as not being as good as Rosberg.