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F1 Team Pick game:

* Rules amended, 3/3/19 *

This game is about predicting the positions each team's cars will finish each race in, without specifying drivers. It would run for each GP, with pts added towards the final result at season's end.

You make two predictions per team. The possibilities are:
  • 1 - win
    p - podium (2nd or 3rd)
    6 - top 6 (4th - 6th)
    10 - top 10 (7th - 10th)
    f - classified finish outside top 10
    nf - non-finish, (eg. retirement, disqualification, non-starter or unclassified finish)

Each correct prediction scores 1pt. If both predictions for a team are correct, you get a bonus pt. The max score for a race is therefore 30pts.

Example prediction:

Australian GP:

Mercedes - 1 and p
Ferrari - p and 6
Red Bull - p and nf
Renault - 6 and 10
Haas - 6 and nf
Mclaren - f and f
Racing Pt - 6 and 10
Alfa Romeo - 10 and nf
Torro Rosso - 10 and f
Williams - f and nf

Note: You can predict more than 1 team to win the race; or, as above, make 3 (or more) predictions for the 2 podium places. The same for all other prediction types.
In above example: if Mercedes finish 1-2 or 1-3 you get 3pts for the team whichever driver wins. If they finish 2-3 or 1-4 you only get 1pt.

(You don't have to put 'and' between the 2 picks for each team as I did above, but please separate them with a space or comma at least. Also it would help if you keep the teams in 2018 Constructors pts order as above.)

The final cut-off time for entries for each GP will be 'on the hour' ten minutes before race start. BUT entries received or amended after the start of FP3 will be subject to a penalty of 50% of their score. This will be rounded down, so 20 or 21 pts would be reduced to 10.

As I don't have satellite TV I expect to have the results ready 3-4 hours after each race finishes - maybe a bit more for far-eastern races.

The game starts with the 2019 Australian GP, but new entrants are welcome at any time.
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I am potentially interested, despite the huge load of F1 games I already play. :D

I'll look the rules over in more detail later and see if I have any input.
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Interesting concept, I'll probably join in!

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Sounds interesting. I'd join in.
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Sounds interesting!

Just one thing though. I think there will be an issue with the deadline so i would suggest putting the start of FP3 as the deadline

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Fountoukos13 wrote:Just one thing though. I think there will be an issue with the deadline so i would suggest putting the start of FP3 as the deadline
Good catch; I agree. The deadline as set forth will be difficult to meet in some time zones for a lot of races.
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Remmirath wrote:
Fountoukos13 wrote:Just one thing though. I think there will be an issue with the deadline so i would suggest putting the start of FP3 as the deadline
Good catch; I agree. The deadline as set forth will be difficult to meet in some time zones for a lot of races.
I was just trying to pick a time after FP2 but before FP3. I thought midnight might be easiest. If people want to make or change picks right up until the start of FP3, then yes I'll make it just before FP3. :)

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tim3003 wrote:I was just trying to pick a time after FP2 but before FP3. I thought midnight might be easiest. If people want to make or change picks right up until the start of FP3, then yes I'll make it just before FP3. :)
That's how we do it in the Top Three Championship, and I think it works pretty well. We used to do 8PM on Friday in the UK, but that presented a lot of issues for people living in the Americas, who wouln't have any chance to catch up on FP2 after work. If the intention is that everyone is able to use information from FP2, setting the deadline as any time before FP3 works pretty well.
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As I don't want to ban unintentionally late entries, any entry after the start of FP3 but before the start of the race will still be allowed, but subject to a penalty of 50% of pts scored in the race. Hopefully that will stop any tactical late entries..

nb: it'll be rounded down: so a late score of 17pts becomes 8pts.

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tim3003 wrote:As I don't want to ban unintentionally late entries, any entry after the start of FP3 but before the start of the race will still be allowed, but subject to a penalty of 50% of pts scored in the race. Hopefully that will stop any tactical late entries..

nb: it'll be rounded down: so a late score of 17pts becomes 8pts.
Its a good idea but you will probably want to increase the penalty if the entry is received after the start of qualifying. Waiting until after FP3 is unlikely to be worth 50% of your points, but after qualifying it may well be, especially if we hear about grid penalties etc on race day itself.

Perhaps 50% after the start of FP3 and 20% after the start of qualifying. It would still be worth putting in a late prediction as you will get some points, but there shouldn't ever be a situation where waiting until you know the qualifying order would be a good strategy.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:Perhaps 50% after the start of FP3 and 20% after the start of qualifying. It would still be worth putting in a late prediction as you will get some points, but there shouldn't ever be a situation where waiting until you know the qualifying order would be a good strategy.
So do you mean 70% after qualifying? Sounds a bit brutal. I'm not convinced knowing the grid order is as much of a help as many think, especially in a game like this where you arent forecasting exact positions, but approximate groups of positions. And, with all 20 entrants to be forecast, taking account of grid penalties to 1 or 2 isn't going to gain you many pts.

Also, does your post mean you are interested in joining in? If so, great, we have 6, which means lift off!

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I'll give it a go.

As for cut off times, my opinion for what it's worth, just have 1 cut off time and that's that. Easy to administer, quick, clean and everyone knows what the go is.
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tim3003 wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:Perhaps 50% after the start of FP3 and 20% after the start of qualifying. It would still be worth putting in a late prediction as you will get some points, but there shouldn't ever be a situation where waiting until you know the qualifying order would be a good strategy.
So do you mean 70% after qualifying? Sounds a bit brutal. I'm not convinced knowing the grid order is as much of a help as many think, especially in a game like this where you arent forecasting exact positions, but approximate groups of positions. And, with all 20 entrants to be forecast, taking account of grid penalties to 1 or 2 isn't going to gain you many pts.

Also, does your post mean you are interested in joining in? If so, great, we have 6, which means lift off!
Sure I'm in :thumbup:

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I'm in too..
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Count me in. Will there be a pick 10 contest this year?

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jzusy wrote:Count me in. Will there be a pick 10 contest this year?
http://forum.planet-f1.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15425

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Thanks to everyone who has registered interest in the competition, and good luck! ;)

I'll start the ball rolling.

Australia:

Mercedes - 1 p
Ferrari - 1 p
Red Bull - 6 nf
Renault - 6 10
Haas - 10 f
Mclaren - f nf
Racing Pt - 10 f
Alfa Romeo - 10 nf
Torro Rosso - f nf
Williams - f nf

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I am in.

Australia:

Mercedes - p p
Ferrari - 1 6
Red Bull - 6 10
Renault - 6 10
Haas - 10 f
Mclaren - f nf
Racing Pt - f f
Alfa Romeo - 10 f
Torro Rosso - f nf
Williams - nf nf

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Mercedes - p and 6
Ferrari - 1 and 6
Red Bull - 6 and nf
Renault - 6 and f
Haas - 10 and nf
Mclaren - 10 and f
Racing Pt - 10 and f
Alfa Romeo - 10 and nf
Torro Rosso - f and nf
Williams - f and nf

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MERCEDES - p / 6
FERRARI - 1 / p
RED BULL - 6 / 6
RENAULT - 10 / NF
HAAS - F / F
McLAREN - 10 / 10
RACING POINT - F / NF
ALFA ROMEO - 10 / F
TORO ROSSO - F / F
WILLIAMS - F / NF
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Mercedes - p p
Ferrari - 1 nf
Red Bull - 6 6
Renault - 6 10
Haas - 10 10
Mclaren - f f
Racing Point - f f
Alfa Romeo - 10 nf
Toro Rosso - f nf
Williams - nf nf

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JN23 - Still looking for a teammate?

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Mercedes - P 6
Ferrari - 1 P
Red Bull - 6 F
Renault - 6 10
Haas - 10 NF
Mclaren - 10 F
Racing Point - 10 F
Alfa Romeo - F F
Toro Rosso - F NF
Williams - F NF

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Charles LeBrad wrote:JN23 - Still looking for a teammate?
Wrong thread - you're looking for the Top Three Championship. I know, it's confusing this time of year!
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Post- FP2 adjustment...

Australia:

Mercedes - 1 p
Ferrari - 1 p
Red Bull - 6 nf
Renault - 6 10
Haas - 10 f
Mclaren - f nf
Racing Pt - f f
Alfa Romeo - 10 nf
Torro Rosso - 10 nf
Williams - f nf

Don't forget: entries after the start of FP3 will get a 50% pts penalty..

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Australia:

Mercedes - 1 and p
Ferrari - 1 and p
Red Bull - 6 and 6
Renault - 10 and 10
Haas - 10 and f
Alfa Romeo - 10 and f
Mclaren - f and f
Toro Rosso - f and nf
Racing Point - f and f
Williams - f and f
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Mercedes - p and 6
Ferrari - 1 and p
Red Bull - 6 and nf
Renault - 10 and 10
Haas - 10 and nf
Mclaren - f and nf
Racing Pt - f and nf
Alfa Romeo - 6 and 10
Torro Rosso - f and nf
Williams - f and nf
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Australian Grand Prix

Mercedes: p and 6
Ferrari: 1 and p
Red Bull: 6 and nf
Renault: 6 and 10
Haas: 10 and nf
McLaren: 10 and nf
Racing Point: 6 and 10
Alfa Romeo: 6 and 10
Torro Rosso: 10 and nf
Williams: f and f
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Australia
Mercedes - p and 6
Ferrari - 1 and p
Red Bull - 6 and nf
Renault - 6 and 10
Haas - 10 and 10
McLaren - f and nf
Racing Point - 10 and f
Alfa Romeo - 10 and f
Toro Rosso - f and f
Williams - f and nf

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AGP

Merc - 1 & 4
Ferrari - P & P
RB - nf & 7
Ren - 5 & 6
Haas - 9 & F
McL- 10 & 8
RP - F & nf
AR - F & F
TR - nf & F
Wil - nf - F
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Jezza13 wrote:AGP

Merc - 1 & 4
Ferrari - P & P
RB - nf & 7
Ren - 5 & 6
Haas - 9 & F
McL- 10 & 8
RP - F & nf
AR - F & F
TR - nf & F
Wil - nf - F
I think you don't need to be that precise. The categories are the win, the podium, the top six and the top ten.
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Exediron wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:AGP

Merc - 1 & 4
Ferrari - P & P
RB - nf & 7
Ren - 5 & 6
Haas - 9 & F
McL- 10 & 8
RP - F & nf
AR - F & F
TR - nf & F
Wil - nf - F
I think you don't need to be that precise. The categories are the win, the podium, the top six and the top ten.
Exediron is right. If you leave it as is, I'll amend 4, 5 and 6 to cat 6; and 7 - 10 to cat 10.. :)
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FP3 started:

Entries are still allowed until 10 minutes before race start, but they will get a 50% pts penalty.

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The mediocre showing by Ferrari with neither Vettel nor Leclerc on the podium took everyone by surprise, as did Verstappen's podium - only 1 person scored any points with Red Bull predictions. So it was those who got some of the midfield teams bang-on who did best. With no-one getting more than 3 teams dead right however it was a very close result.

Australian GP result and Overall Points Table:

Pos Player ------------ Total Pts
1= - Icemanjee1 --------- 13 :thumbup: :thumbup:
1= - Black_Flag_11 ------ 13 :thumbup: :thumbup:
3 -- Tim3003 ------------- 12 :thumbup:
4= - Charles LeBrad ------ 11
4= - Robins13 ------------- 11
6= - Herb ------------------ 10
6= - Exediron ------------- 10
6= - Jensons Understeer - 10
6= - Remmirath ---------- 10
10 - P-F1 Mod ------------- 6
11 - Jezza13 -------------- 5

On to Bahrain in a fortnight! :)

btw: I was going to include an F1 podium photo with the avatars of the top 3, but then I realised many players don't have an avatar!
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Bahrain

Mercedes - 1 p
Ferrari - p 6
Red Bull - 6 10
Renault - f 10
Haas - 6 10
Mclaren - 10 f
Racing Point - f f
Alfa Romeo - f nf
Toro Rosso - f nf
Williams - f nf

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Bahrain

Mercedes - 1 P
Ferrari - P NF
Red Bull - 6 10
Renault - 6 10
Haas - 6 F
Mclaren - F NF
Racing Point - 10 F
Alfa Romeo - 10 F
Toro Rosso - F F
Williams - F F

Gonna go bold with Ferrari

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Bahrain:

Mercedes: 1 P
Ferrari: P 6
Red Bull: 6 NF
Renault: 6 NF
Haas: 10 10
McLaren: 10 10
Racing Point: F F
Alfa Romeo: F F
Toro Ross: F NF
Williams: F F

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Bahrain:

Mercedes: 1 P
Ferrari: P 6
Red Bull: 6 6
Renault: 10 10
Haas: 10 F
McLaren: F F
Racing Point: F F
Alfa Romeo: 10 F
Toro Rosso: F F
Williams: F F
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Bahrain:

Mercedes: 1 P
Ferrari: P 6
Red Bull: 6 10
Renault: 10 10
Haas: 10 NF
McLaren: F NF
Racing Point: F F
Alfa Romeo: 10 F
Toro Rosso: F F
Williams: F NF

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tim3003 wrote:Image

The mediocre showing by Ferrari with neither Vettel nor Leclerc on the podium took everyone by surprise, as did Verstappen's podium - only 1 person scored any points with Red Bull predictions. So it was those who got some of the midfield teams bang-on who did best. With no-one getting more than 3 teams dead right however it was a very close result.

Australian GP result and Overall Points Table:

Pos Player ------------ Total Pts
1= - Icemanjee1 --------- 13 :thumbup: :thumbup:
1= - Black_Flag_11 ------ 13 :thumbup: :thumbup:
3 -- Tim3003 ------------- 12 :thumbup:
4= - Charles LeBrad ------ 11
4= - Robins13 ------------- 11
6= - Herb ------------------ 10
6= - Exediron ------------- 10
6= - Jensons Understeer - 10
6= - Remmirath ---------- 10
10 - P-F1 Mod ------------- 6
11 - Jezza13 -------------- 5

On to Bahrain in a fortnight! :)

btw: I was going to include an F1 podium photo with the avatars of the top 3, but then I realised many players don't have an avatar!
Tim, it would be great if you include original team results along with scores. It would be easy for us to compare.

I mean like in Aus
Merc 1 p
Ferrari 6 6
Redbull p f

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