kleefton wrote:Zoue wrote:kleefton wrote:rodH wrote:The problem with just “switching to mercedes” is that McLaren probably believes that there is NO way that McLaren will ever get the equal works engine that the factory team gets. I tend to agree, there is no way Merc would allow that, and I am sure there are a lot of games that are played to assure the factory cars get the best spec. That being said, they have to find another route, and this is how Honda enters the equation. As a McLaren and Alonso fan, I am at least glad that they know the fault of the engine and can now work on correcting it and getting it at full power instead of just being cluless about what is wrong (but this is sure is a frustrating situation).
I believe it is possible to win with a customer engine. It has been done in the past. Redbull has won 4 championships doing it, they are currently outclassing the Works Renault team, Mclaren used to outclass Mercedes when they were using their engine in the previous era. This idea that you can't win with a customer engine is bogus and really came from Ron Dennis. He was wrong. Paddy Lowe has also said it recently that winning with a customer is possible. It really boils down to the car, if the car is good enough, you can win with a customer engine. No question about it.
I think there is a question. Paddy Lowe's not the best example. He can hardly say Williams have no hope, can he? As for Red Bull, Renault are in no position to challenge at the moment because basically their chassis isn't great. But if they do end up fighting with Red Bull for points, how much longer will Red Bull get parity of equipment do you think?
Williams admitted last year (or was it 2015?) that they didn't have access to the higher engine modes Mercedes did. I think there's reason to believe Ron
Paddy has been consistent in his stance regarding the engines since last year. If there was no "parity" with the customer and works engines he would say it. The fia dictates that the engines have to be equal. The works teams are not allowed to provide lesser engines to their customers. If williams doesnt have access to engine modes it is likely their fault.
It's a clever swerve by Paddy is all. Only equal Hardware is to be guaranteed to customers, it's the Software,Fuel and lubricants that set the works teams apart and you don't have to provide the best ones to your customer. So Paddy can tell the truth about parity on the hardware side but ask him specifically about mapping and see what he says.
There was a piece by Dieter Rencken over the weekend that suggested McLarens owner Mansour Ojjeh who's quite friendly with Daimler was trying to get "special status" in terms of a customer deal from Mercedes while Eric B tries to convince Sauber to take on Honda. The "special status" is access to some of the best mapping that the other customers don't get.
Of course it's technically possible to win as a customer if the works team is as poor as Renault is currently or does a terrible job with it's car in general but Mercedes are too good right now. You'd have to build a car significantly better than them to overcome the deficit on the Software,Fuels and Lubricant and that's not very likely hence seeking works deals(Plus the bonus of free engines and extra money).