pokerman wrote: Lotus49 wrote: pokerman wrote: Lotus49 wrote:
Again I don't understand the relevance of what you said, I'm stating the obvious that if Alonso wants to win Le Mans then now is the ideal time because the WEC has never been as weak as it is now, this has got nothing to do with past happenings in F1.
You originally said it would be the easiest year to win. I pointed out it is in the same sense any competition that comes down to team mates, (like in F1), would be deemed the easiest years to win. How are you struggling so badly to follow?.
If you'd written what you'd written this time I'd have just responded with "thanks for pointing out the obvious" or not responded at all.
Again what has that got to do with F1?
It's a stand alone statement that I made about the WEC and Le Mans.
It's just a comparison of another Motorsport competition you could deem was easiest to win if it's a team mate only battle that year.
Because you are totally missing the point of Alonso doing Le Mans next year because there is no other manufacturer competing in LMP1 apart from Toyota, you seem to have the need to divert attention away from this.
Good grief, It's easy to miss a point you never raised until now. No, I was responding to your post about it being the easiest year to win with an example from another discipline you could deem the same. I'm sure you don't need reminded even two horse races can be tricky little blighters to actually win.
On your new and I believe 3rd point already...I'm pretty sure its the first year Alonso can do Le Mans contractually but there you go deciding you know the real motivation for everyone again. He was supposed to go the year Hulk went for example but McHonda stopped it as they (Porsche) were competitors. He clearly used his contract negotiations to make sure that can't happen again rather than waiting until there was only 1 Manufacturer like you brought up for the first time here. He can't do Indy next year as they are expecting a competitive car in Monaco so Le Mans was always going to be the target as it didn't clash with the F1 calendar nor Toyota clash with McRenault.
I have no need to divert attention away from something you literally just created in your own mind and mentioned for the first time poker. I was responding to the "easiest year to win". Its you that seems to equate next years Le Mans being a team mate only battle means that it's easy to win, not me, and as I've pointed out I'm used to examples in other disciplines so what is there for me to divert from exactly?.
I don't care how you win personally. Having more manufacturers there but they were much weaker than Toyota wouldn't make it any harder to win. Having more manufacturers but they all retired during the event wouldn't make it any harder to win. Having your competitors in the exact same car is more than good enough for me in the absence of a choc full grid with equal performance.
It's you that seems to struggle with it so there's simply no need for me to divert anything but there's plenty of reasons to disagree with the sentiment it's the easiest year to win just because it's between team mates. And my F1 experience is a big reason why I disagree so of course I'm going to mention it.
And I don't care if that's an inconvenient comparison for you.
"Clark came through at the end of the first lap so far ahead that we in the pits were convinced that the rest of the field must have been wiped out in an accident."
-Eddie Dennis, describing the dominance of Jim Clark in the Lotus 49 at Spa 1967