AnRs wrote:sandman1347 wrote:Zoue wrote:sandman1347 wrote:KingVoid wrote:He's matched Vettel in WDCs, now it's all about who wins that 5th one first.
You'd have to place your bets on Lewis winning 2018 too. Bottas lacks the talent to challenge him and Mercedes have an inherit advantage in this era.
When/if Mercedes sign Max in 2019 is when I think that Lewis will be knocked off his pedestal.
This championship wasn't about some sort of "inherent" advantage. This was about Ferrari coming unglued right when they had the opportunity to strike. 3 bad races in a row in crunch time (for various reasons). That's what determined the championship (assuming Hamilton hangs on to win it); not some car disadvantage. Ferrari have generally been a match for Mercedes; quicker sometimes and slower at others. They didn't lose because of the performance of the car. They lost due to reliability and mistakes.
The reliability/errors factor certainly contributed to Mercedes sitting pretty at the moment, but even without that Mercedes were usually the car to beat. This WDC was won as much on Saturday as it was on Sunday, if not more so. And in that the Mercedes have unquestionably been the car to beat
Despite the numerous times we've gone through the season race by race and shown that the Ferrari has been at least the equal of Mercedes over the course of the year, you still make this claim? That just reflects poorly on your integrity to be blunt. This has been your end-game since before the season started. Trying to position Ferrari and Vettel as dealing with a car deficit so that if they lose you have an excuse. They were not at a performance deficit overall, and anyone who's honest about the season can see that. The performance of the cars didn't create this situation. It was the performance of the team that created it. Walking away from their strongest tracks empty handed is the reason Ferrari have dropped so far back.
No, simply no, Merc is the car to beat in 2017, anything else is dillusional.
Nonsense. There is no breakdown of the season that shows either car as having a significant advantage. You can now make the argument that reliability is the decisive factor but even that is a spotty claim. Mercedes have had one mechanical retirement while Ferrari have had 2. All 4 drivers for both teams have had a 5 place penalty for a gearbox. Reliability is actually more close than we now feel (because people are complete prisoners of the moment mostly).
Your attempts to steer the conversation towards this being a continuation of Mercedes form from 2014 are very see-through. Ferrari had the car to win a championship this season. They simply didn't execute for the whole season. During these last 3 races, the wheels have come off of their title bid and it's not because the car wasn't fast enough. In fact they have been faster than Mercedes (as have Red Bull) in at least 2 of those races.
You call me dillusional? What have you been watching these last few races? Have you seen Ferrari unable to keep up or have you seen a comedy of errors and mechanical problems like the rest of us? Because they have dropped the ball, you can't just turn around and blame the car. It's a joke.