chetan_rao wrote:So it looks like all major players on both sides have now slinked out leaving the mess for someone else to clean up? I knew politicians were full of it but this is a whole new level.
Does anyone on the Leave side of the debate still believe this was the right decision, or at least the right way to go about something like this?
Of course it wasn't done the right way, but part of the problem was that the politicians wouldn't give us a vote for years, and then it was rushed in when they felt confident they could win it and everything could go back to normal. I don't know the answer to that, because on the one hand you can't really have votes every five years because of the uncertainty it causes and on the other, how often is often enough?
Is it something the public should even have voted on? A lot of people seem to think not.
As usual with politics we're getting totally conflicting stories, on the same day I've heard that America are clamouring for a deal with us AND that we will be at the back of the queue for a deal.
And then that Angela woman is saying she will guarantee that all EU citizens currently living here can stay. Well that's a foolish position to take, given that she doesn't know if Spain will be chucking our pensioners out isn't it? Shows a distinct lack of nous if you ask me, a bit like Cameron telling the EU he would definitely win the referendum and he would definitely support Remain BEFORE going to broker a deal. I mean come on Dave, what where you thinking. We'd have been better off sending any professional 'buyer' to talk to them.
Plus when is the cut off for 'currently living in the UK', is it now? Is it before the referendum or is it in three years time when we actually trigger A50, if we ever do. I mean someone should talk to these politicians and recommend they consider their words a bit more carefully, don't you think.
The other thing is, these referendums only work one way, like the Scottish independence referendum. If they vote out next time that will be the end of it, there won't be another one to vote back in will there? So where does that leave the people who voted Remain in the UK? Up the creek I'd say.
As for was it the right decision, in the short term no, probably not. But long term I'd rather be ruled by a power mad, greedy politician I can elect, rather than one I can't. Indeed Junker is coming under pressure to resign, but he's seemingly impervious. There's no system for removing an EU official. And that is the problem with the EU in a nutshell.
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