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I will play my jokers on RedBull and Haas as well as Russell.

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I'll have a joker on Red Bull please!

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I owe everyone, especially Remmirath, an apology - although he has had them chosen for the entire year, I managed not to include Alfa Romeo in his scores up to now. That bumps him up a bit in the standings, but most crucially gives him a win in Spain, from Fountoukos13. Apologies for that, the amended scores will be included from here on in. I'll go back and edit each round once I've posted today's results.

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EIFFEL RESULTS

1 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 640
2 - P-F1 MOD - 505
3 - HERB - 493
4 - REMMIRATH - 485
5 - TUFTY - 475
6 - JN23 - 441
7 - ROBOFAN - 440
8 - MOD BLUE - 432
9 = JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 429
9 = ICEMANJEE1 - 429
11 - EXEDIRON - 367
12 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 357

STANDINGS

1 - HERB - 5858 [2 WINS, 200; JOKERS D3,D4,T3 LEFT]
2 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 5847 [4 WINS, 186; JOKER D1 LEFT]
3 - REMMIRATH - 5649 [1 WIN, 165; JOKERS D3,D4,T1,T3 LEFT]
4 - P-F1 MOD - 5642 [1 WIN, 200; JOKERS D3,D4 LEFT]
5 - EXEDIRON - 5423 [1 WIN, 200; JOKERS D4,T1,T3 LEFT]
6 - MOD BLUE - 5409 [200; JOKERS D2,D3,D4,T1,T2,T3 LEFT]
7 - ICEMANJEE1 - 5399 [200; JOKERS D1,D3,D4,T1,T2,T3 LEFT]
8 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 5343 [200; ALL JOKERS LEFT]
9 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 5306 [2 WINS, 200; ALL JOKERS LEFT]
10 - TUFTY - 5203 [183; NO JOKERS LEFT]
11 - JN23 - 5165 [183; JOKERS D1,T1,T3 LEFT]
12 - ROBOFAN - 4910 [200; ALL JOKERS LEFT]

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I'd like to make a long overdue move to trade Albon for Ricciardo in Driver Group #2.
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Noted, not locked in until Portugal practice.

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I want to trade Albon for Ricciardo in Driver Group #2

I want to trade Magnussen to Giovinazzi in Driver Group #4

I want to trade Mclaren for Racing Point in Team Group #2

Can you confirm that all these 3 trades combined costs 54 points? And also , these changes come into effect from the Portuguese GP right?
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That's 56 points - I use the same driver scoring system as I use to calculate our scores, so the standings are very slightly different from the official F1 ones. But yes those are now locked in from Portugal onwards.

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Close race in the midfield, as I think we've all come to expect from 2020, but as usual a fairly quiet race up front once the early drama from the rain settled down.

PORTUGUESE RESULTS

1 - P-F1 MOD - 516
2 - REMMIRATH - 513
3 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 495
4 - HERB - 478
5 - EXEDIRON - 476
6 - ICEMANJEE1 - 469
7 - JN23 - 467
8 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 461
9 - ROBOFAN - 460
10 - MOD BLUE - 456
11 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 455
12 - TUFTY - 436

STANDINGS

1 - HERB - 6336 [2 WINS, 200, D3,4 T3 REMAIN]
2 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 6302 [4 WINS, 186, D1 REMAIN]
3 - REMMIRATH - 6162 [1 WIN, 165, D3,4 T1,3 REMAIN]
4 - P-F1 MOD - 6158 [2 WINS, 200, D3,4 T1 REMAIN]
5 - EXEDIRON - 5881 [1, 182, D4, T1,3 REMAIN]
6 - MOD BLUE - 5865 [200, D2,3,4 T1,2,3 REMAIN]
7 - ICEMANJEE1 - 5812 [144, D1,3,4 T1,2,3 REMAIN]
8 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 5804 [200, ALL JOKERS REMAIN]
9 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 5801 [2 WINS, 200, ALL JOKERS REMAIN]
10 - TUFTY - 5639 [183, NO JOKERS REMAIN]
11 - JN23 - 5630 [183, D1,4 T1,3 REMAIN]
12 - ROBOFAN - 5370 [200, ALL JOKERS REMAIN]

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Just to offer a run-down of driver and team costs:

21 - HAM - 1089
20 - BOT - 878
19 - VER - 780
18 - RIC - 585
17 - PER - 552
16 - ALB - 516
15 - NOR - 515
14 - LEC - 505
13 - GAS - 487
12 - SAI - 436
11 - STR - 431
10 - OCO - 408
9 - VET - 343
8 - KVY - 328
7 - RAI - 248
6 - GIO - 198
5 - GRO - 179
4 - MAG - 149
3 - LAT - 140
2 - RUS - 124
1 - HUL - 95 [Not available for transfer, but bumps everyone's price up by a point]

40 - MERCEDES - 1967
36 - RED BULL - 1296
32 - RACING POINT - 999
28 - RENAULT - 993
24 - McLAREN - 951
20 - FERRARI - 848
16 - ALPHATAURI - 815
12 - ALFA ROMEO - 446
8 - HAAS - 328
4 - WILLIAMS 264

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Jokers:

Group 3: Stroll
Group 4: Russell (why not!?)

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I'd like to use the group 3 driver joker on Gasly this weekend.
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Okay, I'd like to clean out my jokers in pursuit of a blatant glory-run victory:

Team #1: Ferrari
Team #3: Haas, because why the bleep not!
Driver #4: Russel
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That won't be without a fight Exediron!

Jokers for me:
Team 1: Red Bull
Team 3: Williams
Driver 1: Bottas

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I've looked at the final 4 races and I'm locking in my final picks. In Turkey I'll play Red Bull for Team Group 1, and at the Bahrain oval I'll play Gasly and Russell for Driver Groups 3 and 4.

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That was looking like a boring race until Verstappen passed Bottas, and then it turned to absolute chaos. Another comfortable win for Hamilton in the end, though he was driving the only healthy Mercedes by the end. A great shame too for Gasly and Ocon, both benched by mechanical problems, and Russell and Albon will be kicking themselves for wasting their opportunities. A learning experience for George, and presumably the last salvo that Red Bull will be firing Albon's way when they, um, fire him.

IMOLA RESULTS

1 - JN23 - 662
2 - EXEDIRON - 616
3 - P-F1 MOD - 581
4 - REMMIRATH - 570
5 - ICEMANJEE1 - 554
6 - HERB - 553
7 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 533
8 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 519
9 - MOD BLUE - 509
10 - ROBOFAN - 498
11 - TUFTY - 489
12 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 476

STANDINGS

1 - HERB - 6889 [2 WINS, 200]
2 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 6821 [4 WINS, 186]
3 - P-F1 MOD - 6739 [2 WINS, 200]
4 - REMMIRATH - 6732 [1 WIN, 165]
5 - EXEDIRON - 6497 [1 WIN, 182]
6 - MOD BLUE - 6374 [200]
7 - ICEMANJEE1 - 6366 [144]
8 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 6334 [2 WINS, 200]
9 - JN23 - 6294 [1 WIN, 183]
10 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 6280 [200]
11 - TUFTY - 6128 [183]
12 - ROBOFAN - 5868 [200]

JOKERS REMAINING

DRIVER GROUP 1
- JENSON'S UNDERSTEER
- COULTHARD'S CHIN
- ROBOFAN
- ICEMANJEE1
- FOUNTOUKOS13

DRIVER GROUP 2
- JENSON'S UNDERSTEER
- COULTHARD'S CHIN
- ROBOFAN
- MOD BLUE

DRIVER GROUP 3
- JENSON'S UNDERSTEER
- COULTHARD'S CHIN
- ROBOFAN
- MOD BLUE
- ICEMANJEE1

DRIVER GROUP 4
- JENSON'S UNDERSTEER
- REMMIRATH
- COULTHARD'S CHIN
- ROBOFAN
- ICEMANJEE1
- JN23

TEAM GROUP 1
- JENSON'S UNDERSTEER
- REMMIRATH
- COULTHARD'S CHIN
- ROBOFAN
- MOD BLUE
- ICEMANJEE1

TEAM GROUP 2
- JENSON'S UNDERSTEER
- COULTHARD'S CHIN
- ROBOFAN
- MOD BLUE
- ICEMANJEE1

TEAM GROUP 3
- JENSON'S UNDERSTEER
- REMMIRATH
- COULTHARD'S CHIN
- ROBOFAN
- MOD BLUE
- ICEMANJEE1
- HERB

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TRANSFER COSTS

21 - HAM
20 - BOT
19 - VER
18 - RIC
17 - PER
16 - LEC
15 - NOR
14 - ALB
13 - GAS
12 - SAI
11 - STR
10 - OCO
9 - KVY
8 - VET
7 - RAI
6 - GIO
5 - GRO
4 - LAT
3 - MAG
2 - RUS

40 - MERCEDES
36 - RED BULL
32 - RACING POINT
28 - RENAULT
24 - McLAREN
20 - FERRARI
16 - ALPHATAURI
12 - ALFA ROMEO
8 - HAAS
4 WILLIAMS

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Oh yes I won! Second win of the weekend 8)

Edit: tried to play a joker on a driver already have, again, so edited and deleted. :blush:

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At least you're consistent :P I've edited Russell's Monza joker out of your scores in the thread, sorry again for not catching that.

I think the jokers are providing a great extra layer to this tournament. Just from 2 jokers I can see where I've lost 100 points, and with those I'd be right up there fighting for the title. Turkey and Sakhir might give me a boost, I've got potentially more valuable jokers in play there than Fountoukos13 and Herb have left, but I've still left a lot of points on the table just in those 7 selections. I think leaving the time limits off in future might be the best way to go. Yes, some players seem to have drifted away and aren't using their jokers at all, and more freedom makes it easier to forget them, but it's self-penalising and someone having a 101 point advantage from a joker in the first race might not survive someone else playing the same joker for the same result at the end of the year. The game is a lot less predictable than at this time last year. There's still 9 players who could theoretically win this, and I only rule out the other 3 because they haven't used their jokers at all and I assume are unlikely to now.

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Haas joker please!

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Those of us running jokers this weekend were rather caught out by the weather. Herb's Haas call was pretty much literally washed out, and I went for Red Bull on only the third weekend where Ferrari beat them. We have to give Hamilton credit for taking his 7th title in such dominant fashion, especially given how the opening laps worked out. Racing Point clawed ahead in the F1 standings, and likewise in the system used for this tournament. Whether they can retain third across the Middle Eastern triple-header is another question, however.

These results are provisional depending on post-race investigations. I'm hoping no penalties happen because I really don't want to redo the Pick 10 tables!

TURKEY RESULTS

1 - HERB - 507
2 - REMMIRATH - 492
3 - P-F1 MOD - 490
4 - EXEDIRON - 481
5 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 477
6 - ICEMANJEE1 - 476
7 - MOD BLUE - 473
8 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 467
9 - ROBOFAN - 414
10 - JN23 - 408
11 - TUFTY - 397
12 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 348

STANDINGS

1 - HERB - 7396 [200, 3 WINS, USED ALL JOKERS]
2 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 7288 [186, 4 WINS, 1 JOKER REMAINING]
3 - P-F1 MOD - 7229 [200, 2 WINS, 2 JOKERS REMAINING]
4 - REMMIRATH - 7224 [165, 1 WIN, 3 JOKERS REMAINING
5 - EXEDIRON - 6978 [182, 1 WIN, NO JOKERS REMAINING]
6 - MOD BLUE - 6847 [200, 6 JOKERS REMAINING]
7 - ICEMANJEE1 - 6842 [144, 6 JOKERS REMAINING]
8 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 6757 [200, ALL JOKERS REMAINING]
9 - JN23 - 6702 [183, 1 WIN, 1 JOKER REMAINING]
10 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 6682 [200, 2 WINS, ALL JOKERS REMAINING]
11 - TUFTY - 6525 [183, 3 JOKERS REMAINING]
12 - ROBOFAN - 6282 [200, ALL JOKERS REMAINING]

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Just to confirm who has which jokers remaining:

Jenson's Understeer - ALL
Remmirath - D4, T1, T3
Coulthard's Chin - ALL
Robofan - ALL
Mod Blue - D2, D3, D4, T1, T2, T3
JN23 - D4
Icemanjee1 - D1, D3, D4, T1, T2, T3
Fountoukos13 - D1

Myself and Tufty have a few not yet used but they have already been committed for the Sakhir race.

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Question, is the scoring on the first just that plus any jokers we play through the season?

If so, how come i score 40 points less than Herb when he has a Haas joker and i have sainz instead of Albon.

I'm asking because i might have misunderstood the rules maybe.

Edit I also played a Russell Joker in Eifel GP when i already had him in my team.

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He has Perez, you have Stroll. There's a 47 point gap there alone. The joker he played only gave him another 10 points.

In brackets is, to take Herb as an example, 200 (the remaining transfer points), the number of wins and the number of jokers remaining.

The overall standings include all points scored up to now, including jokers. The race points include jokers applied.

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quote="Fountoukos13 " post_id=820514 time=1596188243 user_id=27868]
Fountoukos13 wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:34 pm
I actually posted in the morning a change and the post has disappeared.

Anyway i would like to change Perez to Stroll and Magnussen to Russell
Actually scratch the perez change i like Hulkenberg
[/quote]
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Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:11 am
Single change noted for Fountoukos13, Magnussen swapped for Russell.

Anyone with Perez in their picks has Hulkenberg scoring for them this weekend. For the record, that's everyone except Robofan
Is there a possibility that my scores are wrong for most of the season? Also what about the Russell joker i played?

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With Perez staying in your team, you're winning. The Russell joker was removed.

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Looking back over the thread that's entirely my bad Fountoukos, sorry.

Updated scores:

1 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 7481
2 - HERB - 7396
3 - P-F1 MOD - 7229
4 - REMMIRATH - 7224
5 - EXEDIRON - 6978
6 - MOD BLUE - 6847
7 - ICEMANJEE1 - 6842
8 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 6757
9 - JN23 - 6702
10 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 6682
11 - TUFTY - 6525
12 - ROBOFAN - 6282

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Mistakes happen, you still give your time to host the game so thank you for that.

Wow almost 200 more points... That's some good news actually!

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Good news for you :P

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Final joker for me: Giovinazzi please for driver group 4

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Noted

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I'll use a team joker for Red Bull. Definitely should've done that sooner, but ah well...
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I want to use driver group 1 joker on Bottas

I want to use team group 2 joker on Renault
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Jokers (just in time!)

D2 - RIC
D3 - GAS
D4 - GRO

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Great timing Blue! All jokers locked in for this weekend now.

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Can someone tell Mod Blue he's not allowed jokers any more? His D4 from today did not go well. That said, he did well in his other selections.

BAHRAIN RESULTS

1 - REMMIRATH - 636
2 - MOD BLUE - 571
3 - EXEDIRON - 525
4 - JN23 - 494
5 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 472
6 - P-F1 MOD - 465
7 - ROBOFAN - 464
8 - ICEMANJEE1 - 456
9 - TUFTY - 455
10 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 392
11 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 361
12 - HERB - 355

STANDINGS

1 - REMMIRATH - 7860 [2 WINS]
2 - FOUNTOUKOS13 - 7842 [4 WINS]
3 - HERB - 7751 [3 WINS]
4 - P-F1 MOD - 7694 [2 WINS]
5 - EXEDIRON - 7503 [1 WIN]
6 - MOD BLUE - 7418
7 - ICEMANJEE1 - 7298
8 - JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 7229
9 - JN23 - 7196 [1 WIN]
10 - COULTHARD'S CHIN - 7074 [2 WINS]
11 - TUFTY - 6980
12 - ROBOFAN - 6746

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Fittipaldi is in for Grosjean for the second Bahrain race, anyone picking Grosjean will instead score whatever Fittipaldi does.

That's me and Herb. I'm swapping him for Russell for the rest of the year, and swapping my joker for this weekend to Latifi from Russell.

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Team Jokers:

T1 - Red Bull
T2 - Racing Point
T3 - Alfa Romeo

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Noted.

Anyone with Hamilton as their pick this weekend will have his replacement instead. That's everyone except Coulthard's Chin.

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So that means that right now i have Russell and Aitken right?

I would like to play my two remaining jokers on Bottas and Giovinazzi.

Thank you!

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