planetf1.com
https://forum.planetf1.com/

2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!
https://forum.planetf1.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15358
Page 1 of 3

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Welcome to the fourth year of this game. Rules are below, stolen from last year's thread again because I'm lazy.

All new scoring system
I am reformatting the points once again, giving the battle at the bottom a few bigger gaps, and adding greater value to the top 10 also.

1st = 100 points
2nd = 87 points
3rd = 78 points
4th = 70 points
5th = 62 points
6th = 56 points
7th = 50 points
8th = 45 points
9th = 40 points
10th = 35 points
11th = 30 points
12th = 25 points
13th = 20 points
14th = 16 points
15th = 12 points
16th = 9 points
17th = 6 points
18th = 4 points
19th = 2 points
20th = 1 point


Points for teams will be the combined total their two drivers score under this system. So if Hamilton and Bottas are classified 1st and 17th, Mercedes would score 106 points for that race (100 + 6).

All-new transfer system (v2!)

The joker system, while actually not that terrible, was a little limiting. The biggest issue with it was not so much the joker system itself, but the fact that once everybody's selections were locked in for the season, it made it impossible for those with bad predictions to overcome that handicap. Even, say, someone who made awful selections but actually accumulated the most joker points (I wonder who that awesome, handsome person was?!) still finished well down the order. So for 2017 onwards we bid the joker adieu, introducing the following transfer system in its place:

- Everyone starts with 200 transfer points to use however they wish. There is no limit on the number of transfers you can make per race or per group; the only limitation is the 200 points.
- A transfer will be considered final when a race weekend begins (when FP1 goes green). Like last year, a transfer can be requested in advance of a race weekend but cancelled before the weekend begins. However, this must be done in a separate post stating that you now wish to cancel that transfer. Deleting the original post will not be considered a withdrawal of a transfer request because I'm unable to see when posts are deleted (and therefore it would be open to abuse).
- A driver's transfer value is dictated by their standing in the WDC. Whichever driver is first in the WDC costs 20 points to transfer; the driver in 2nd costs 19 points to transfer; the driver in 3rd costs 18 points to transfer; and so on down to the driver in 20th, who costs just 1 point to transfer.
- A team's transfer value is dictated by their standing in the WCC. Whichever team is first in the WCC costs 40 points to transfer; the team in 2nd costs 36 points to transfer; and so on down to the team in 10th, which costs 4 points to transfer.
- When you transfer a driver/team out of your selections, you do not receive their value back in additional points. There are also no additional points on offer for not making transfers (as there were in the previous transfer rules).
- At the end of the season, any transfer points you have remaining will be added to your overall score. The inactive team rule has been rescinded, because even if someone gives up on the game or forgets about it, I feel their efforts at the start of the season shouldn't be dismissed. Nonetheless it would be nice to see people posting more often in these threads.
- No transfers will be permitted until after the third race of the season. This is to try and avoid a situation where misfortune in the opening rounds results in a driver/team being significantly less expensive than they otherwise would be. It is also to ensure extra weight is attached to everyone's initial picks.

And... actually, that is it as far as the changes go. To be fair, it wasn't a particularly complex game in 2016 and I didn't want to change that for 2017. I did consider continuing the joker system alongside the transfer system, but I was a little worried it might all get a bit overcomplicated. Which brings us nicely onto:

2018 Groups

You need to make one selection from each group, so you end up with four drivers and three teams.

What If...

This was a pretty useful section to have last year so I'm including it again.

What if one of my selections is replaced by a driver not on the grid? For example, one of my selections gets sick of his GP2 - sorry, FIA F2 - engine and decides to quit F1? (Sorry, Jenson). Or one of my drivers is unable to take part in a race due to injury/suspension? Then you will receive any points scored by the replacement for as long as they continue to replace the original selection. You would, of course, be able to transfer out the replacement for another driver in that group.
What if the aforementioned F2 engine suddenly improved and the disgruntled Spaniard decided, actually, he quite fancied racing in F1 again? (Sorry, Jenson). Well if you hadn't transferred out his replacement, you would revert back to having Alonso in your team. If you had transferred out his replacement then you would continue with the driver you transferred into your team, but would be able to transfer Alonso back in upon his return if you wanted.
What if we have a repeat of 2016 whereby one driver on the grid swaps seats with another driver on the grid, like Max Verstappen and Daniil Kvyat? Using 2016 as an example, from the moment Red Bull promoted Verstappen, anyone who had originally selected Kvyat began scoring whatever points Verstappen scored, whilst those who had originally selected Verstappen started scoring the points Kvyat scored. Essentially, it is treated as a driver being replaced so as not to unbalance my carefully crafted driver groups! Of course, the big difference now is you can transfer out one (or both) drivers involved in a swap if you wished.
What if a driver and/or team is excluded from the result of a race? I won't post the results for a race until, at the earliest, Monday afternoon, and they'll usually come later in the week as it takes a little time to write it all up. So hopefully any exclusions will have been made very clear by that point. However, if a driver/team is under investigation when I post the results then they will remain unofficial until that investigation has been concluded and it all becomes official.
What if a driver or team I've selected is excluded from the overall standings, such as Schumi in '97 or McLaren in '07? I would do what I did in 2018 with Force India, and continue to consider them the same entry as they did in effect replace the previous entry in the same way as Schumacher was replaced by Salo in 1999. I realise this is a departure from the original rules, but financial woes or major infringements that result in these huge penalties shouldn't affect what is ultimately just a fun prediction game rather than an FIA sanctioned, serious sport. Not that I expect our reigning champion not to be bragging about his win all Christmas!
What if I want to make a transfer for the next race, but FP1 had already begun? I'm going to be very clear on this: no transfers will be accepted once FP1 has commenced. As I will not always be online at that moment, I will take the timestamp on any post made as a means to determine whether a transfer is permitted or not. So if FP1 is scheduled to begin at 9am GMT, if a transfer post was made at 8:59am GMT then it would be accepted; if it were made at 9:00am GMT then I will assume FP1 has commenced and it would be rejected. Of course, if the start of FP1 is delayed then I would do my best to find the exact time it began and use that time as the deadline for transfers.
What if something that hasn't been covered here happens? In that case I would put it to a vote whereby the majority would rule. I would try to run any poll for a week but if it were something that needed to be determined for the next race weekend, I would set a deadline of the start of FP1.
What if a 21st driver takes part in a race; how does that affect the transfer point costs? In that scenario, the 21st driver would, by virtue of being bottom of the WDC standings, have a value of 1 point. Every other position in the WDC would therefore see its value increased by 1 transfer point, so 1st in the WDC would cost 21 points, 2nd in the WDC would cost 20 points, and so on down to 20th, who would now cost 2 transfer points.
What if two new drivers take part in the season from the same race? We would extend the scoring as above, just by two places this time. In terms of how the values of those two drivers would be determined, as I assume neither would be officially ranked in the WDC standings until they had taken part in a race, whichever was officially confirmed for their season debut first would be deemed to be higher in the WDC standings and therefore would cost the additional transfer point.

Full Transfer Point Costs
WDC/WCC position: Driver/Team
1st: 20/40
2nd: 19/36
3rd: 18/32
4th: 17/28
5th: 16/24
6th: 15/20
7th: 14/16
8th: 13/12
9th: 12/8
10th: 11/4
11th: 10
12th: 9
13th: 8
14th: 7
15th: 6
16th: 5
17th: 4
18th: 3
19th: 2
20th: 1

I hope this is clear - I'm posting this thread now well in advance of sorting the groups out, as I want suggestions on amendments to the above rules and I also want to see how different people would divide the field into groups.

Edit one: I forgot how many years the game ran :lol:

Author:  Fountoukos13 [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Count me in!

Author:  Jezza13 [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Ah yup.

Author:  Exediron [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

I am - much to the horror of my psychologist - in. I believe I've finished in last place every year of this competition, so... not like I can do any worse, right? :D

EDIT: And reading that you wanted suggestions on the groups, here would be my take from after the first test (which means basically without any knowledge) - sticking with four driver groups and three teams for now

TEAM GROUP A: Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull
TEAM GROUP B: Renault, Haas, Alfa Romeo
TEAM GROUP C: Racing Point, McLaren, Toro Rosso, Williams

Pretty self-explanatory. The three groups are roughly the three expected tiers of competition. Racing Point and McLaren are hard to place right now, and could be group B or C.

And for drivers:

DRIVER GROUP A: Hamilton, Vettel, Verstappen
DRIVER GROUP B: Bottas, Leclerc, Gasly
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo, Hulkenberg, Raikkonen, Perez, Grosjean, Magnussen, Sainz
DRIVER GROUP D: Giovinazzi, Stroll, Norris, Albon, Russel, Kubica, Kvyat

The idea being group A is the 'senior' drivers of the top teams, group B is the defactro second drivers of the top teams, group C is the known-quantity drivers in good cars, and group D is drivers in weak cars or unknown quantities.

Author:  JN23 [ Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

I fancy a go at this one this year!

Author:  Remmirath [ Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

I'm in again. Can't be worse than the last two seasons, right? :uhoh:

Author:  Remmirath [ Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Ah, right, I forgot to muse on the team and driver distribution. What Exe put forth looks reasonable. My read on the teams from testing is more like:

Team Group A: Ferrari, Mercedes
Team Group B: Red Bull, McLaren, Renault, Toro Rosso
Team Group C: Alfa Romeo, Haas, Racing Point
Team Group D: Williams

But that's probably not a very workable distribution for the purposes of the game. I'm less sure about the drivers; going with the team model, it might look something like this:

Driver Group A: Vettel, Hamilton, Leclerc, Bottas
Driver Group B: Verstappen, Gasly, Sainz, Ricciardo, Kvyat
Driver Group C: Raikkonen, Perez, Grosjean, Hulkenberg, Norris, Albon
Driver Group D: Giovinazzi, Magnussen, Stroll, Kubica, Russel

But that would mean that everybody could only pick one driver from one of the predicted top teams; not sure if that's good or bad.

Author:  Exediron [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Remmirath wrote:
Team Group A: Ferrari, Mercedes
Team Group B: Red Bull, McLaren, Renault, Toro Rosso
Team Group C: Alfa Romeo, Haas, Racing Point
Team Group D: Williams

This isn't a bad read as far as a pecking order, but each group needs to make an effort to present meaningful choices. If Red Bull is in the same group as any midfield teams, 100% of the entrants will pick Red Bull. They'll probably get the least selections in the top group instead, but at least they'll be a choice there. Some naive people might even pick them, and finish last as a result.

And while having Williams all alone at the back is probably accurate, a category of one just means everyone has to take Williams. They might as well not be on the grid... :uhoh:

Remmirath wrote:
Driver Group A: Vettel, Hamilton, Leclerc, Bottas
Driver Group B: Verstappen, Gasly, Sainz, Ricciardo, Kvyat
Driver Group C: Raikkonen, Perez, Grosjean, Hulkenberg, Norris, Albon
Driver Group D: Giovinazzi, Magnussen, Stroll, Kubica, Russel

The issue with grouping the drivers like this is that it creates drivers nobody will ever pick. If Bottas is in the same group as Hamilton, someone would have to be high to take him - and the problem is even worse in group B, having Kvyat in the same group as Verstappen or Ricciardo.

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Given we're closing on the season starting, I'm taking Exediron's suggestions as the groups. Name your choices by Melbourne FP3 start please! And any latecomers are still welcome to join in too. The more the merrier :D

TEAM GROUP A: Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull
TEAM GROUP B: Renault, Haas, Alfa Romeo
TEAM GROUP C: Racing Point, McLaren, Toro Rosso, Williams

DRIVER GROUP A: Hamilton, Vettel, Verstappen
DRIVER GROUP B: Bottas, Leclerc, Gasly
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo, Hulkenberg, Raikkonen, Perez, Grosjean, Magnussen, Sainz
DRIVER GROUP D: Giovinazzi, Stroll, Norris, Albon, Russel, Kubica, Kvyat

Author:  Exediron [ Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Allow me to be the first to lay down my starting selections for the season:

TEAM GROUP A: Ferrari
TEAM GROUP B: Renault
TEAM GROUP C: McLaren

DRIVER GROUP A: Hamilton
DRIVER GROUP B: Leclerc
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo
DRIVER GROUP D: Norris

#BelieveInMcLaren
#NotLastThisTimeDangit

Author:  Remmirath [ Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

All right. This year. This year... I will not be dead last. :x

TEAM GROUP A: Ferrari
TEAM GROUP B: Alfa Romeo
TEAM GROUP C: McLaren

DRIVER GROUP A: Hamilton
DRIVER GROUP B: Leclerc
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo
DRIVER GROUP D: Kvyat

Author:  JN23 [ Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Here goes:

TEAM GROUP A: Ferrari
TEAM GROUP B: Renault
TEAM GROUP C: McLaren

DRIVER GROUP A: Vettel
DRIVER GROUP B: Leclerc
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo
DRIVER GROUP D: Kvyat

Author:  Herb [ Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

TEAM GROUP A: Mercedes
TEAM GROUP B: Renault
TEAM GROUP C: McLaren

DRIVER GROUP A: Hamilton
DRIVER GROUP B: Leclerc
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo
DRIVER GROUP D: Norris

Author:  coulthards chin [ Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

TEAM GROUP A: Ferrari
TEAM GROUP B: Renault
TEAM GROUP C: McLaren

DRIVER GROUP A: Vettel
DRIVER GROUP B: Leclerc
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo
DRIVER GROUP D: Norris

Author:  Icemanjee1 [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Team Group A: Ferrari
Team Group B: Renault
Team Group C: Mclaren

Driver Group A: Hamilton
Driver Group B: Leclerc
Driver Group C: Ricciardo
Driver Group D: Stroll

Author:  Jenson's Understeer [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

May as well:

TEAM GROUP A: Ferrari
TEAM GROUP B: Renault
TEAM GROUP C: McLaren

DRIVER GROUP A: Vettel
DRIVER GROUP B: Leclerc
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo
DRIVER GROUP D: Norris

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

My choices:

TEAM GROUP A: Ferrari
TEAM GROUP B: Renault
TEAM GROUP C: McLaren

DRIVER GROUP A: Hamilton
DRIVER GROUP B: Leclerc
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo
DRIVER GROUP D: Kvyat

Author:  Mod Blue [ Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

I'll give this a go this year!

TEAM GROUP A: Ferrari
TEAM GROUP B: Alfa Romeo
TEAM GROUP C: McLaren

DRIVER GROUP A: Vettel
DRIVER GROUP B: Bottas
DRIVER GROUP C: Ricciardo
DRIVER GROUP D: Giovinazzi

Author:  Jezza13 [ Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Probably missed the boat here PF1 -Mod & if so then please cancel me from the game this year.

Driver GRP A - Vettel
Driver GRP B - Leclerc
Driver GRP C - Ricciardo
Driver GRP D - Giovinazzi

Team GRP A - Ferrari
Team GRP B - Renault
Team GRP C - Racing Point

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Nah you're good :D

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

And we're off! For a race that some called out for minimal overtaking, I have to admit that's the most hooked I've been in a long time to a GP.

Results were naturally mixed, but nobody scored less than 300 points. NB: when two or more entrants are equal, the name above made their picks earlier but that's not to say that's a definite order. Wins are being recorded also to help with tiebreakers.

1 - HERB 441
2 = REMMIRATH 401
2 = ICEMANJEE1 401
4 - MOD BLUE 399
5 - P-F1 MOD 396
6 - JEZZA13 390
7 = COULTHARD'S CHIN 389
7 = JENSON'S UNDERSTEER 389
9 - EXEDIRON
10 - JN23 379

An incredibly close championship in the offing it seems. A lot of people think this is just a blip for Ferrari, which will likely be in the hopes, dreams and where appropriate prayers of all the Ferrari backers this season. We'll see in the next 4 rounds I reckon what the true pecking order is. But for now, Bottas is flying high and he's taken Herb with him!

Author:  JN23 [ Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

The gap between Herb and the rest is bigger than between second and last 8O

When can I make transfers :lol:

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

After China :P

Author:  Exediron [ Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Herb wrote:
TEAM GROUP A: Mercedes

This could well be the move that wins you the championship, if Mercedes continues to dominate until China... :uhoh:

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Heartbreaking race for Charles today, and for anyone relying on Ferrari for their points.

Results from Bahrain are as follows:

1 - HERB 493
2 - REMMIRATH 485
3 - MOD BLUE 461
4 - EXEDIRON 446
5 - P-F1 MOD 415
6 - COULTHARD'S CHIN 408
7 = JENSON'S UNDERSTEER 408
7 = ICEMANJEE1 406
9 - JN23 377
10 - JEZZA13 375

And the current championship standings:

1 - HERB 934
2 - REMMIRATH 886
3 - MOD BLUE 880
4 - EXEDIRON 832
5 - P-F1 MOD 811
6 - ICEMANJEE1 807
7 = COULTHARD'S CHIN 777
7 = JENSON'S UNDERSTEER 777
9 - JEZZA13 765
10 - JN23 756

Author:  JN23 [ Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

I'm not very good at this :lol: putting it down to being a rookie

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

In fairness, it's one of those games where it's hard to make big gains in any one race.

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

I don't think any of us expected Ferrari to be so soundly beaten by Mercedes before the weekend started. Those of us banking on Ferrari this year are going to struggle I think.

Results from China:

1 - HERB - 474
2 - JEZZA13 - 263
3 - ICEMAANJEE1 - 448
4 - MOD BLUE - 439
5 - EXEDIRON - 427
6 - REMMIRATH - 426
7 - P-F1 MOD - 425
8 = COULTHARD'S CHIN - 405
8 = JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 405
10 - JN23 - 403

Championship standings [Transfer points available]:

1 - HERB - 1408 [200]
2 - REMMIRATH - 1312 [200]
3 - MOD BLUE - 1299 [200]
4 - EXEDIRON - 1259 [200]
5 - ICEMANJEE1 - 1255 [200]
6 - P-F1 MOD - 1236 [200]
7 - JEZZA13 - 1228 [200]
8 = COULTHARD'S CHIN - 1182 [200]
8 = JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 1182 [200]
10 - JN23 - 1159 [200]

Transfer costs

20 HAM
19 BOT
18 VER
17 VET
16 LEC
15 GAS
14 RAI
13 NOR
12 MAG
11 HUL
10 RIC
9 PER
8 ALB
7 STR
6 KVY
5 GIO
4 GRO
3 SAI
2 RUS
1 KUB

40 MERCEDES
36 FERRARI
32 RED BULL
28 RENAULT
24 ALFA ROMEO
20 HAAS
16 McLAREN
12 TORO ROSSO
8 RACING POINT
4 WILLIAMS

Author:  Jenson's Understeer [ Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

I'll transfer Ferrari and Vettel out, Mercedes and Hamilton in.

Author:  Exediron [ Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

I honestly suspect Herb has already won the championship by the early form of the Mercs. I'll be pondering what changes to make later tonight... :uhoh:

Author:  Herb [ Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

It's a long season :)

Author:  Jenson's Understeer [ Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Exediron wrote:
I honestly suspect Herb has already won the championship by the early form of the Mercs. I'll be pondering what changes to make later tonight... :uhoh:


Unfortunately, that's one of the biggest issues with this game. Nail your original predictions and there is no real scope for anyone else to catch up, particularly as most would do what I've done (which I may yet go back on :lol: ) and put themselves further behind for the sake of matching the leading team. I do still think this game/format had a good basis, I just think if I were doing it again, I'd approach it differently.

One thought that actually crossed my mind was to break the season into four segments (two halves before the summer break and two halves after) and then have five groups of four drivers. Each entrant has to use all four drivers in any given group across the season, a different one in each of the four segments. So let's say driver group 1 is Hamilton, Bottas, Leclerc and Vettel. If you pick Hamilton for the first five races, you then can't use him again the rest of the season. It then becomes really tactical as to which driver you pick, and if you do get it wrong, you cost yourself points but still have the opportunity to recover them in later segments. (If there were more interest/activity in the game as a whole, you'd have the option to change your team on a race-to-race basis, but only be allowed to use any given driver from a certain group 5 or 6 times in a season. That would require a lot of management, though.)

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

It did occur to me to reset the selections over summer, but I wrote it off as the thoughts of a mod desperately losing! I'm always open to ideas though.

Author:  Jenson's Understeer [ Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

P-F1 Mod wrote:
It did occur to me to reset the selections over summer, but I wrote it off as the thoughts of a mod desperately losing! I'm always open to ideas though.


The problem with that is it doesn't really solve the issue. By that point it'll be obvious what the best predictions are and you'll more than likely get less variance in the choices at that stage, not more. I think it would also act to discourage people from making changes closer to the summer break.

Author:  Exediron [ Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Jenson's Understeer wrote:
P-F1 Mod wrote:
It did occur to me to reset the selections over summer, but I wrote it off as the thoughts of a mod desperately losing! I'm always open to ideas though.

The problem with that is it doesn't really solve the issue. By that point it'll be obvious what the best predictions are and you'll more than likely get less variance in the choices at that stage, not more. I think it would also act to discourage people from making changes closer to the summer break.

Ironically, I think the old joker system actually did the best job of balancing the reward of having the best picks initially with the possibility of getting some points back on people with better picks by good strategic deployment. The swap system is very susceptible to the exact problem you're highlighting, e.g. that once it becomes clear what the pecking order is it's just a tax on those who made the wrong picks initially.

Author:  JN23 [ Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Transfer 1: Hamilton in for Vettel (20)
Transfer 2: Norris in for Kvyat (13)

Author:  Exediron [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

After careful consideration, I've decided not to make any transfers. I have to believe Ferrari will turn this around if I want to have a chance at winning. :uhoh:

Author:  Jenson's Understeer [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Jenson's Understeer wrote:
I'll transfer Ferrari and Vettel out, Mercedes and Hamilton in.


I'm going to abandon this idea for now.

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Noted. That cost you 8 points in Azerbaijan, but saved you 60.

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2019 Group Pick 'Em Game - Format Updated!

Azerbaijan was something approaching karmic reribution for Bottas, and at the sharp end of this competition 3 contenders were within a single point. However, Mod Blue took the win ahead of those three. Meanwhile at the back, completing a torrid prediction weekend between this and the qualifying contest, is... me. Stop laughing at the back.

AZERBAIJAN RESULTS

1 - MOD BLUE - 205
2 = EXEDIRON - 197
2 = JN23 - 197
4 - HERB - 196
5 - ICEMANJEE1 - 192
6 = COULTHARD'S CHIN - 188
6 = JENSON'S UNDERSTEER -188
8 - JEZZA13 - 168
9 = REMMIRATH - 154
9 = P-F1 MOD - 154

CHAMPIONSHIP

1 - EXEDIRON - 1029 [200, 1 WIN]
2 - HERB - 1028 [200]
3 - ICEMANJEE1 - 1020 [200, 2 WINS]
4 - MOD BLUE - 1001 [200, 1 WIN]
5 = REMMIRATH - 963 [200]
5 = P-F1 MOD - 963 [200]
7 = COULTHARD'S CHIN - 943 [200]
7 = JENSON'S UNDERSTEER - 943 [200]
9 - JN23 - 896 [167]
10 - JEZZA13 - 892 [200]

Page 1 of 3 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
http://www.phpbb.com/