F1 Oracle 2017

Exediron · Post by **Exediron** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:20 am

Baku

1. Quali winner: Valtteri Bottas
2. Race winner: Valtteri Bottas
3. Fastest lap: Kimi Raikkonen
4. Quali surprise: Lance Stroll
5. Quali victim: Carlos Sainz, Jr.
6. Overachiever race: Daniil Kvyat
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz, Jr.
8. First lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Daniel Ricciardo
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: One
12. Race leaders: Two
13. Classified: Fifteen

Jenson's Understeer · Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:05 pm

Updating my predictions after my Baku banker last night:

1. Quali winner: Seb Vettel
2. Race winner: Seb Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Seb Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Daniil Kvyat (joker)
5. Quali victim: Pascal Wehrlein
6. Overachiever race: Daniil Kvyat
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz
8. First lap hero: Carlos Sainz
9. First lap zero: Lance Stroll
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: 2
12. Race leaders: 3
13. Classified: 14

Icemanjee1 · Post by **Icemanjee1** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:17 pm

Baku GP 2017

1. Quali winner: Valtteri Bottas
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Sebastian Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Fernando Alonso
5. Quali victim: Pascal Wehrlein
6. Overachiever race: Daniil Kvyat
7. Underperformer race: Pascal Wehrlein
8. First lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Lance Stroll
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 3
13. Classified: 15

Joker is in RED

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:17 pm

Baku:

1. Quali winner: Bottas
2. Race winner: Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Verstappen
4. Quali surprise: Stroll
5. Quali victim: Wehrlein
6. Overachiever race: Kvyat
7. Underperformer race: Hamilton
8. First lap hero: Alonso
9. First lap zero: Stroll
10. First man out: Sainz
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 14

robins13 · Post by **robins13** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:36 pm

Editing picks
Baku

1. Pole: Bottas
2. Race winner: Bottas
3. Fastest lap: Raikkonen
4. Quali surprise: Stroll
5. Quali victim: Vettel
6. Overachiever race: Stroll
7. Underperformer race: Hamilton(Joker)
8. First Lap hero: Alonso
9. First lap zero: Stroll
10. First man out: Vandoorne
11. Safety cars: 2
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 15

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:46 pm

Azerbaijan Oracle Results

Entries: 9 (9 jokers played).
Bonus value: 60% of wrong answers on joker question.

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Daniel Ricciardo
3. Fastest lap: Sebastian Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Lance Stroll (+8 positions)
5. Quali victim: Daniel Ricciardo, Romain Grosjean (-5 positions)
6. Overachiever race: Lance Stroll (+13 positions; 3rd)
7. Underperformer race: Kimi Raikkonen (-10 positions)
8. First lap hero: Sergio Perez, Felipe Massa, Nico Hulkenberg, Jolyon Palmer (+3 positions)
9. First lap zero: Valtteri Bottas (-18 positions)
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer (7th lap)
11. Safety cars: 3
12. Race leaders: 3 (Hamilton, Vettel, Ricciardo)
13. Classified: 14

Congratulations to Remmirath for winning the Azerbaijan GP!

WDC going to Austria:
1. Sebastian Vettel – 2. Lewis Hamilton – 3. Valtteri Bottas – 4. Daniel Ricciardo - 5. Kimi Räikkönen – 6. Max Verstappen – 7. Sergio Perez – 8. Esteban Ocon - 9. Carlos Sainz - 10. Felipe Massa - 11. Nico Hülkenberg – 12. Lance Stroll - 13. Kevin Magnussen – 14. Romain Grosjean - 15. Pascal Wehrlein - 16. Daniil Kvyat – 17. Fernando Alonso - 18. Jolyon Palmer - 19. Marcus Ericsson - 20. Stoffel Vandoorne - 21. Antonio Giovinazzi.

Remmirath · Post by **Remmirath** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:08 pm

Apparently it takes an insanely chaotic race for me to win, which implies it may have been more luck than skill... but hey, I'll take it!

Exediron · Post by **Exediron** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:38 pm

I'm officially withdrawing from this championship; my season has been a total disaster, and I'd prefer to focus my energy on competitions I have at least a ghost of a chance at winning.

Good luck to everyone else, especially my Top Three teammate Jenson's Understeer, who will now become the bottom-ranked active participant!

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:03 am

Exediron wrote:I'm officially withdrawing from this championship; my season has been a total disaster, and I'd prefer to focus my energy on competitions I have at least a ghost of a chance at winning.

Good luck to everyone else, especially my Top Three teammate Jenson's Understeer, who will now become the bottom-ranked active participant!

booooooooo, dont quit man. Its a long season everyone is still in the running.

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:52 am

Mayhem wrote:
Exediron wrote:I'm officially withdrawing from this championship; my season has been a total disaster, and I'd prefer to focus my energy on competitions I have at least a ghost of a chance at winning.

Good luck to everyone else, especially my Top Three teammate Jenson's Understeer, who will now become the bottom-ranked active participant!
booooooooo, dont quit man. Its a long season everyone is still in the running.

I agree. In this competition, a 13 point deficit to the leader with 12 races to go means very little. Last year I was second from bottom after the Austrian GP and still finished 3rd. And now with the joker system in place I expect much bigger up- and downturns over the course of the season.

Herb · Post by **Herb** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:26 pm

Exediron wrote:I'm officially withdrawing from this championship; my season has been a total disaster, and I'd prefer to focus my energy on competitions I have at least a ghost of a chance at winning.

Good luck to everyone else, especially my Top Three teammate Jenson's Understeer, who will now become the bottom-ranked active participant!

Ah please don't quit - give it another go! A good result or two and you'd be back in the mix.

My entries - I might change yet!

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Sebastian Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Fernando Alonso*
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Fernando Alonso
7. Underperformer race: Esteban Ocon
8. First lap hero: Max Verstappen
9. First lap zero: Lance Stroll
10. First man out: Marcus Ericsson
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 17

Exediron · Post by **Exediron** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:59 pm

TypingChicane wrote:I agree. In this competition, a 13 point deficit to the leader with 12 races to go means very little. Last year I was second from bottom after the Austrian GP and still finished 3rd. And now with the joker system in place I expect much bigger up- and downturns over the course of the season.

It's not just the gap, although being last by a huge chunk is certainly not where I want to be. I just feel that I'm already in a lot of competitions, and for the time it takes me to put together this slate I almost always get frustrated and disappointed with the results. I still think it's an interesting and different way to run a prediction competition, but it just doesn't seem to be the right fit for me.

Sorry, all.

Remmirath · Post by **Remmirath** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:32 pm

Austrian Grand Prix
1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Sebastian Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Stoffel Vandoorne
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Fernando Alonso
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz Jr.
8. First lap hero: Nico Hulkenberg
9. First lap zero: Romain Grosjean
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

Jenson's Understeer · Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:13 pm

Exediron wrote:I'm officially withdrawing from this championship; my season has been a total disaster, and I'd prefer to focus my energy on competitions I have at least a ghost of a chance at winning.

Good luck to everyone else, especially my Top Three teammate Jenson's Understeer, who will now become the bottom-ranked active participant!

Hey now, I was just trying to keep it interesting for everyone rather than dominating like I did last year! Guess I may as well just give up on that and start winning rounds again...

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Sebastian Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Fernando Alonso
5. Quali victim: Pascal Wehrlein
6. Overachiever race: Fernando Alonso
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz
8. First lap hero: Felipe Massa
9. First lap zero: Carlos Sainz
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: 0 (joker)
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:09 am

Austria

1. Pole: Hamilton
2. Race winner: vettel
3. Fastest lap: Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: alonso
5. Quali victim: sainz
6. Overachiever race: Vandorn (joker)
7. Under performer race: Grosjean
8. First Lap hero: magnussen
9. First lap zero: grosjean
10. First man out: palmer
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

Fountoukos13 · Post by **Fountoukos13** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:46 am

Austria

1. Pole: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Bottas
4. Quali surprise: Alonso
5. Quali victim: Sainz
6. Overachiever race: Stroll
7. Under performer race: Magnussen
8. First Lap hero: Vandoorne
9. First lap zero: Ocon
10. First man out: Grosjean
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 1 (Joker)
13. Classified: 17

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:16 am

Austria:

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Sebastian Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Stoffel Vandoorne
5. Quali victim: Felipe Massa
6. Overachiever race: Daniil Kvyat
7. Underperformer race: Felipe Massa
8. First lap hero: Carlos Sainz
9. First lap zero: Kimi Raikkonen
10. First man out: Lance Stroll
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 15

Icemanjee1 · Post by **Icemanjee1** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:31 am

Austria GP 2017

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Sebastian Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Sebastian Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Stoffel Vandoorne
5. Quali victim: Lance Stroll
6. Overachiever race: Romain Grosjean
7. Underperformer race: Lance Stroll
8. First lap hero: Felipe Massa
9. First lap zero: Esteban Ocon
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

Joker is in RED

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:34 am

Herb wrote:
Exediron wrote:I'm officially withdrawing from this championship; my season has been a total disaster, and I'd prefer to focus my energy on competitions I have at least a ghost of a chance at winning.

Good luck to everyone else, especially my Top Three teammate Jenson's Understeer, who will now become the bottom-ranked active participant!
Ah please don't quit - give it another go! A good result or two and you'd be back in the mix.

My entries - I might change yet!

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Sebastian Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Fernando Alonso
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Fernando Alonso
7. Underperformer race: Esteban Ocon
8. First lap hero: Max Verstappen
9. First lap zero: Lance Stroll
10. First man out: Marcus Ericsson
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 17

I see no joker!

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:36 am

Remmirath wrote:Austrian Grand Prix
1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Sebastian Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Stoffel Vandoorne
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Fernando Alonso
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz Jr.
8. First lap hero: Nico Hulkenberg
9. First lap zero: Romain Grosjean
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

No joker?

Herb · Post by **Herb** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:45 am

TypingChicane wrote:
Herb wrote:
Exediron wrote:I'm officially withdrawing from this championship; my season has been a total disaster, and I'd prefer to focus my energy on competitions I have at least a ghost of a chance at winning.

Good luck to everyone else, especially my Top Three teammate Jenson's Understeer, who will now become the bottom-ranked active participant!
Ah please don't quit - give it another go! A good result or two and you'd be back in the mix.

My entries - I might change yet!

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Sebastian Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Fernando Alonso*
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Fernando Alonso
7. Underperformer race: Esteban Ocon
8. First lap hero: Max Verstappen
9. First lap zero: Lance Stroll
10. First man out: Marcus Ericsson
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 17
I see no joker!

Oops. Just added a star!

robins13 · Post by **robins13** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:56 am

Austria

1. Pole: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Vandoorne
5. Quali victim: Wehrlein
6. Overachiever race: Grosjean (Joker)
7. Under performer race: Perez
8. First Lap hero: Hamilton
9. First lap zero: Raikkonen
10. First man out: Palmer
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

Jenson's Understeer · Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:09 am

Editing my predictions:

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Sebastian Vettel
3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Kevin Magnussen *joker*
5. Quali victim: Lance Stroll
6. Overachiever race: Kevin Magnussen
7. Underperformer race: Lance Stroll
8. First lap hero: Felipe Massa
9. First lap zero: Romain Grosjean
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:41 pm

Thank you for the bonus, Stoffel!

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:28 pm

Austria Oracle Results

Entries: 8 (7 jokers played).
Bonus value: 65% of wrong answers on joker question.

1. Quali winner: Valtteri Bottas
2. Race winner: Valtteri Bottas
3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Romain Grosjean, Stoffel Vandoorne (+7 positions)
5. Quali victim: Felipe Massa (-7 positions)
6. Overachiever race: Romain Grosjean (+8 positions; 6th)
7. Underperformer race: Lewis Hamilton, Nico Hulkenberg (-2 positions)
8. First lap hero: Felipe Massa, Lance Stroll (+7 positions)
9. First lap zero: Fernando Alonso (-7 positions)
10. First man out: Max Verstappen (1st lap)
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2 (Bottas, Raikkonen)
13. Classified: 16

Congratulations to Icemanjee1 for winning the Austrian GP and becoming the sole leader!

WDC going to Great Britain:
1. Sebastian Vettel – 2. Lewis Hamilton – 3. Valtteri Bottas – 4. Daniel Ricciardo - 5. Kimi Räikkönen – 6. Sergio Perez – 7. Max Verstappen – 8. Esteban Ocon - 9. Carlos Sainz - 10. Felipe Massa - 11. Lance Stroll - 12. Nico Hülkenberg – 13. Romain Grosjean - 14. Kevin Magnussen – 15. Pascal Wehrlein - 16. Daniil Kvyat – 17. Fernando Alonso - 18. Jolyon Palmer - 19. Marcus Ericsson - 20. Stoffel Vandoorne - 21. Antonio Giovinazzi.

Jenson's Understeer · Post by **Jenson's Understeer** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:03 pm

What might've been had KMag not had that suspension failure...

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:28 pm

Jenson's Understeer wrote:What might've been had KMag not had that suspension failure...

He would have had to qualify 6th to match +7 positions. Not impossible but a tough ask.

robins13 · Post by **robins13** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:13 pm

TypingChicane wrote:
Jenson's Understeer wrote:What might've been had KMag not had that suspension failure...
He would have had to qualify 6th to match +7 positions. Not impossible but a tough ask.

I think 7th would have been enough and Grosjean achieved it in a HAAS. Also that would push both Grosjean and Vandoorne a place down.

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:21 pm

robins13 wrote:
TypingChicane wrote:
Jenson's Understeer wrote:What might've been had KMag not had that suspension failure...
He would have had to qualify 6th to match +7 positions. Not impossible but a tough ask.
I think 7th would have been enough and Grosjean achieved it in a HAAS. Also that would push both Grosjean and Vandoorne a place down.

I see, yes, all three would be +6 then.

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:36 pm

From next weekend on, I may leave out the players from the table that have stopped playing (theferret and Exediron).
In case even more participants stop playing or forget to post their entries (I hope not!), this is is what the bonus calculation would be, using the method explained in the OP:

8 players: 65% of the number of wrong answers
7 players: 75% of the number of wrong answers
6 players or less: 100% of the number of wrong answers

Remmirath · Post by **Remmirath** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:13 am

Sounds reasonable to me.

... I only now realise that I forgot to choose a joker last race. Must remember not to do that again.

Herb · Post by **Herb** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:48 am

GB:

1. Quali winner: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Vettel
4. Quali surprise: Vandoorne
5. Quali victim: Felipe Massa
6. Overachiever race: Romain Grosjean
7. Underperformer race: Perez
8. First lap hero: Alonso
9. First lap zero: Magnussen
10. First man out: Palmer
11. Safety cars: 0
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

Jenson's Understeer · Post by **Jenson's Understeer** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:04 pm

Is there a running total in terms of how many joker points everyone has scored? I must be pretty close to the bottom of that...

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:59 pm

Jenson's Understeer wrote:Is there a running total in terms of how many joker points everyone has scored? I must be pretty close to the bottom of that...

You ask, we deliver!

The numbers represent: Jokers played - correct jokers - joker points won - average joker points won (per joker played).

1. robins13: 9 - 3 - 11 - 1.22
2. Icemanjee1: 9 - 2 - 8 - 0.89
3. TypingChicane: 9 - 2 - 6 - 0.67
4. Mayhem: 9 - 2 - 5 - 0.56
5. Fountoukos13: 9 - 1 - 4 - 0.44
= Herb: 9 - 1 - 4 - 0.44
7. Remmirath: 8 - 2 - 3 - 0.38
8. Jenson's Understeer: 9 - 1 - 2 - 0.22
9. Exediron: 8 - 1 - 1 - 0.13
10. theferret: 4 - 0 - 0 - 0.00

The same stats for each of the 13 questions:

1. Quali winner: 3 - 1 - 2 - 0.67
2. Race winner: 8 - 1 - 4 - 0.50
3. Fastest lap: 7 - 0 - 0 - 0.00
4. Quali Surprise: 15 - 3 - 4 - 0.27
5. Quali Victim: 7 - 1 - 4 - 0.57
6. Overachiever: 18 - 5 - 16 - 0.89
7. Underperformer: 4 - 0 - 0 - 0.00
8. First lap hero: 2 - 1 - 4 - 2.00
9. First lap zero: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0.00
10. First man out: 2 - 0 - 0 - 0.00
11. Safety cars: 8 - 2 - 7 - 0.88
12. Race leaders: 4 - 0 - 0 - 0.00
13. Classified: 5 - 1 - 3 - 0.60

Edited to correct 2 bonuses from the Austrian GP

Jenson's Understeer · Post by **Jenson's Understeer** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:02 pm

So in other words, I'm doing by far and away the worst out of everyone who has played a joker at each race!

Another request: the table that shows how many correct answers we've each had for every question over the season. I don't know if this is something you maintain after each race, or one you tot up every now and then, so if it is the latter don't worry about it!

Fountoukos13 · Post by **Fountoukos13** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:01 am

Great Britain:

1. Quali winner: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Magnussen
5. Quali victim: Wehrlein
6. Overachiever race: Magnussen
7. Underperformer race: Sainz
8. First lap hero: Ricciardo
9. First lap zero: Verstappen
10. First man out: Ricciardo
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 3
13. Classified: 15

TypingChicane · Post by **TypingChicane** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:26 am

Jenson's Understeer wrote:Another request: the table that shows how many correct answers we've each had for every question over the season. I don't know if this is something you maintain after each race, or one you tot up every now and then, so if it is the latter don't worry about it!

I'll do one after Silverstone.

theferret · Post by **theferret** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:55 am

Great Britain:

1. Quali winner: Hamilton
2. Race winner: Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Raikkonen
4. Quali surprise: Kvyat
5. Quali victim: Wehrlein
6. Overachiever race: Massa
7. Underperformer race: Sainz
8. First lap hero: Magnussen
9. First lap zero: Raikkonen
10. First man out: Palmer
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 3
13. Classified: 16

Remmirath · Post by **Remmirath** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:42 pm

British Grand Prix
1. Quali winner: Valtteri Bottas
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Kimi Raikkonen
4. Quali surprise: Fernando Alonso
5. Quali victim: Carlos Sainz Jr
6. Overachiever race: Max Verstappen
7. Underperformer race: Carlos Sainz Jr
8. First lap hero: Felipe Massa
9. First lap zero: Daniil Kvyat
10. First man out: Jolyon Palmer
11. Safety cars: 1
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 16

Joker in red, because I remember it this time!

Jenson's Understeer · Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:09 pm

1. Quali winner: Lewis Hamilton
2. Race winner: Lewis Hamilton
3. Fastest lap: Lewis Hamilton
4. Quali surprise: Daniil Kvyat
5. Quali victim: Sergio Perez
6. Overachiever race: Daniil Kvyat
7. Underperformer race: Sergio Perez
8. First lap hero: Fernando Alonso
9. First lap zero: Romain Grosjean
10. First man out: Romain Grosjean
11. Safety cars: 0 (joker)
12. Race leaders: 2
13. Classified: 15