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Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:39 pm
by AngusWolfe
I thought it would be a good idea to start an Eccelstone-inspired medals table, both out of interest, and as a good comparison to the Consistency Table thread. Personally, I am opposed to the system for the official Championship, but think it's interesting nonetheless

Table (following Malaysia):
1. Vettel: |1|0|1|
2. Raikkonen: |1|0|0|
3. Webber: |0|1|0| (6th)
4. Alonso: |0|1|0| (DNF)
5. Hamilton: |0|0|1|
6. Massa: 4th (5th)
7. Rosberg: 4th (DNF)
8. Grosjean: 6th
9. Sutil: 7th
10. Di Resta: 8th (DNF)
11. Hulkenberg: 8th (DNS)
12. Perez: 9th (11th)
13. Button: 9th (17th)
14. Vergne: 10th
15. Bottas: 11th
16. Gutierrez: 12th
17. Bianchi: 13th
18.Pic: 14th
19. Van Der Garde: 15th
20. Chilton: 16th
21. Ricciardo: 18th
22. Maldonado: DNF

Key:
|Golds|Silvers|Bronzes| - Medals
Xth - Highest finish
(Xth) - second highest finish
[Xth] - third highest finish

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:48 pm
by Oompa
Inappropriate post removed.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:13 pm
by AngusWolfe
Table (following China):

1. Raikkonen: |1|1|0| (7th)
2. Alonso: |1|1|0| (DNF)
3. Vettel: |1|0|1|
4. Webber: |0|1|0| (6th)
5. Hamilton: |0|0|2|
6. Massa: 4th (5th)
7. Rosberg: 4th (DNF)
8. Grosjean: 6th
9. Sutil: 7th
10. Di Resta: 8th (8th)
11. Hulkenberg: 8th (10th)
12. Perez: 9th (11th)
13. Button: 5th (9th)
14. Vergne: 10th
15. Bottas: 11th
16. Gutierrez: 12th
17. Bianchi: 13th (15th)
18. Maldonado: 13th (DNF)
19. Pic: 14th
20. Van Der Garde: 15th
21. Chilton: 16th
22. Ricciardo: 18th

Key:
|Golds|Silvers|Bronzes| - Medals
Xth - Highest finish
(Xth) - second highest finish
[Xth] - third highest finish

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:14 pm
by AngusWolfe
I think that's right. Let me know if not.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:08 pm
by DWilD
Surely Button and Ricciardo are wrong? Button needs moving up above grosjean, and you haven't recorded ricciado finish of 7th, putting him above Sutil

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:29 pm
by AngusWolfe
AngusWolfe wrote:Table (following China):

1. Raikkonen: |1|1|0| (7th)
2. Alonso: |1|1|0| (DNF)
3. Vettel: |1|0|1|
4. Webber: |0|1|0| (6th)
5. Hamilton: |0|0|2|
6. Massa: 4th (5th)
7. Rosberg: 4th (DNF)
8. Button: 5th (9th)
9. Grosjean: 6th
10. Ricciardo: 7th (18th)
11. Sutil: 7th
12. Di Resta: 8th (8th)
13. Hulkenberg: 8th (10th)
14. Perez: 9th (11th)
15. Vergne: 10th
16. Bottas: 11th
17. Gutierrez: 12th
18. Bianchi: 13th (15th)
19. Maldonado: 13th (DNF)
20. Pic: 14th
21. Van Der Garde: 15th
22. Chilton: 16th


Key:
|Golds|Silvers|Bronzes| - Medals
Xth - Highest finish
(Xth) - second highest finish
[Xth] - third highest finish


Right, should be good now, thanks DWilD.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:53 am
by Covalent
Thanks, keep up the good work.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:17 pm
by AngusWolfe
Table (following Bahrain):

1. Vettel: |2|0|1|
2. Raikkonen: |1|2|0|
3. Alonso: |1|1|0|
4. Webber: |0|1|0|
5. Hamilton: |0|0|2|
6. Grosjean: |0|0|1|
7. Massa: 4th (5th)
8. Di Resta: 4th (8th)
9. Rosberg: 4th (9th)
10. Button: 5th (9th)
11. Perez: 6th (9th)
12. Sutil: 7th (13th)
13. Ricciardo: 7th (16th)
14. Hulkenberg: 8th (10th)
15. Vergne: 10th
16. Bottas: 11th (13th) [14th]
17. Maldonado: 11th (13th) [DNF]
18. Gutierrez: 12th
19. Bianchi: 13th
20. Pic: 14th
21. Van Der Garde: 15th
22. Chilton: 16th

Key:
|Golds|Silvers|Bronzes| - Medals
Xth - Highest finish
(Xth) - second highest finish
[Xth] - third highest finish

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:19 pm
by AngusWolfe
I wrote it down instead of doing it from my head again, so should be right this week, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:14 pm
by AngusWolfe
I know I usually do this on Sunday, but I'm currently too busy. Should be up in the next few days.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:48 pm
by AngusWolfe
Table (following Spain):

1. Alonso: |2|1|0|
2. Vettel: |2|0|1|
3. Raikkonen: |1|3|0|
4. Webber: |0|1|0|
5. Hamilton: |0|0|2|
6. Massa: |0|0|1| 4th (5th)
7. Grosjean: |0|0|1| 6th
8. Rosberg: 4th (6th)
9. Di Resta: 4th (7th)
10. Button: 5th (8th)
11. Perez: 6th (9th)
12. Ricciardo: 7th (10th)
13. Sutil: 7th (13th)
14. Hulkenberg: 8th (10th)
15. Vergne: 10th
16. Gutierrez: 11th (12th)
17. Bottas: 11th (13th) [14th x2]
18. Maldonado: 11th (13th) [14th]
19. Bianchi: 13th
20. Pic: 14th
21. Van Der Garde: 15th
22. Chilton: 16th

Key:
|Golds|Silvers|Bronzes| - Medals
Xth - Highest finish
(Xth) - second highest finish
[Xth] - third highest finish

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:49 pm
by AngusWolfe
Apologies for the late posting, normal service should resume next week.

Please post any corrections.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:09 pm
by moby
How far down the positions would they have been awarded? I thought it was first 3 only, so only Vettel, Kimi, Alonso, Massa and ro gro would have any?

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:27 pm
by AngusWolfe
moby wrote:How far down the positions would they have been awarded? I thought it was first 3 only, so only Vettel, Kimi, Alonso, Massa and ro gro would have any?

After the podiums I give highest result, similar to how non-points scorers are positioned. Although I wish i had thought of not classifying guys off the podium, would make this alot easier :lol:

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:06 pm
by AngusWolfe
Apologies guys, I'm currently doing my A-Level exams, and had a lot of personal stuff going on, so I've had no time to do this... as soon as I get any, I'll update, Hopefully before Sunday's race :)

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:56 pm
by AngusWolfe
Monaco Update:

Drivers:
1. VET 2-1-1
2. ALO 2-1-0
3. RAI 1-3-0
4. ROS 1-0-0
5. WEB 0-1-1
6. HAM 0-0-2
7. MAS 0-0-1 4th
8. GRO 0-0-1 6th


Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 2-2-2
2. Ferrari: 2-1-1
3. Lotus Renault: 1-3-1
4. Mercades AMG: 1-0-2

Shortened format this time, easier for me to fit around my busy schedule. added Constructors championship too.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:01 pm
by AngusWolfe
Canada Update:

Drivers:
1. VET 3-1-1
2. ALO 2-2-0
3. RAI 1-3-0
4. ROS 1-0-0
5. WEB 0-1-1
6. HAM 0-0-3
7. MAS 0-0-1 4th
8. GRO 0-0-1 6th


Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 3-2-3
2. Ferrari: 2-2-1
3. Lotus Renault: 1-3-1
4. Mercades AMG: 1-0-2

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:42 pm
by AngusWolfe
Britain update:

Drivers:
1. VET 3-1-1
2. ALO 2-2-1
3. ROS 2-0-0
4. RAI 1-3-0
5. WEB 0-2-1
6. HAM 0-0-3
7. MAS 0-0-1 4th
8. GRO 0-0-1 6th


Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 3-3-3
2. Ferrari: 2-2-2
3. Mercades AMG: 2-0-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-3-1

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:46 pm
by AngusWolfe
Germany update:

Drivers:
1. VET 4-1-1
2. ALO 2-2-1
3. ROS 2-0-0
4. RAI 1-4-0
5. WEB 0-2-1
6. HAM 0-0-3
7. GRO 0-0-2
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 4-3-2
2. Ferrari: 2-2-2
3. Mercades AMG: 2-0-3
4. Lotus Renault: 1-4-2

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:02 pm
by Irbis
Nitpick - check third places count for RBR and Merc.

Interesting table, highlights things not normally apparent.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:52 pm
by AngusWolfe
Irbis wrote:Nitpick - check third places count for RBR and Merc.

Interesting table, highlights things not normally apparent.

My bad, I'll do it now, thanks :)

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:35 pm
by AngusWolfe
Hungary update:

Drivers:
1. VET 4-1-3
2. ALO 2-2-1
3. ROS 2-0-0
4. RAI 1-5-0
5. HAM 1-0-3
6. WEB 0-2-1
7. GRO 0-0-2
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 4-3-3
2. Mercades AMG: 3-0-3
3. Ferrari: 2-2-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-5-2

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:33 pm
by AngusWolfe
Belgium update:

Drivers:
1. VET 5-1-3
2. ALO 2-3-1
3. ROS 2-0-0
4. RAI 1-5-0
5. HAM 1-0-4
6. WEB 0-2-1
7. GRO 0-0-2
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 5-3-3
2. Mercades AMG: 3-0-4
3. Ferrari: 2-3-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-5-2

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:15 pm
by AngusWolfe
Italy update:

Drivers:
1. VET 6-1-3
2. ALO 2-4-1
3. ROS 2-0-0
4. RAI 1-5-0
5. HAM 1-0-4
6. WEB 0-2-2
7. GRO 0-0-2
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 6-3-4
2. Mercades AMG: 3-0-4
3. Ferrari: 2-4-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-5-2

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:43 pm
by AngusWolfe
Singapore update:

Drivers:
1. VET 7-1-3
2. ALO 2-5-1
3. ROS 2-0-0
4. RAI 1-5-1
5. HAM 1-0-4
6. WEB 0-2-2
7. GRO 0-0-2
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 7-3-4
2. Mercades AMG: 3-0-4
3. Ferrari: 2-5-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-5-3

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:34 pm
by AngusWolfe
Japan update:

Drivers:
1. VET 9-1-3
2. ALO 2-5-1
3. ROS 2-0-0
4. RAI 1-6-1
5. HAM 1-0-4
6. WEB 0-3-2
7. GRO 0-0-4
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 9-4-4
2. Mercades AMG: 3-0-4
3. Ferrari: 2-5-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-6-5

It's like playing spot the difference now... answers on a postcard ;)

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:04 pm
by Irbis
AngusWolfe wrote:Lotus now have more medals than Ferrari and Mercedes, yet no change. very glad this system isn't actually used. hopefully this will be more interesting next year.

Um... You first state there would be no change, then say you're glad no change system isn't used? :?

Anyway, maybe medals are not best system out there, but Rosberg definitely needs to be a bit higher.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:47 pm
by AngusWolfe
Irbis wrote:
AngusWolfe wrote:Lotus now have more medals than Ferrari and Mercedes, yet no change. very glad this system isn't actually used. hopefully this will be more interesting next year.

Um... You first state there would be no change, then say you're glad no change system isn't used? :?

Anyway, maybe medals are not best system out there, but Rosberg definitely needs to be a bit higher.


I meant no change in positions on the table, apologies for any confusion.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:02 pm
by AngusWolfe
I accidentally edited the Korea update instead of posting something new. so if anyone is still reading, it's up there :)

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:19 pm
by AngusWolfe
India update:

Drivers:
1. VET 10-1-3
2. ALO 2-5-1
3. ROS 2-1-0
4. RAI 1-6-1
5. HAM 1-0-4
6. WEB 0-3-2
7. GRO 0-0-5
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 10-4-4
2. Mercades AMG: 3-1-4
3. Ferrari: 2-5-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-6-6

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:17 am
by mds
Just a quick question - who wins the title in this system? Obviously Vettel in this specific case, but what are the rules? Only going by the number of wins first, then seconds, then thirds? So a driver winning 10 races and retiring in the other 9 would be WDC, even if another driver wins 9 races and runner-up in the other 10?

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:29 pm
by AngusWolfe
mds wrote:Just a quick question - who wins the title in this system? Obviously Vettel in this specific case, but what are the rules? Only going by the number of wins first, then seconds, then thirds? So a driver winning 10 races and retiring in the other 9 would be WDC, even if another driver wins 9 races and runner-up in the other 10?


Yes, it is most wins, no matter what happens in the races that driver does not win. Second places then count if there is a tie, then 3rds, then highest non-podium position. for drivers without any medals the highest finish will determine the order in WDC, and WCC, similar to those who do not score points in the current system. Bernie Eccelstone wanted to use it for 2009 onwards but never happened. Personally I prefer the points system we have now, but I started this thread as an interesting comparison to the consistency tables. Although this season has been rather boring, there are years where this is much more interesting. For example, in 2005 where Kimi Räikkönen would have won the championship, or 1982, where Didier Pironi would have won, despite missing out on the last 5 races due to injury.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:03 pm
by mds
OK, thank you for the confirmation.
1982 would have been a curious case. Rosberg would suddenly be only sixth :)

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:43 pm
by AngusWolfe
Abu Dhabi update:

Drivers:
1. VET 11-1-3
2. ALO 2-5-1
3. ROS 2-2-0
4. RAI 1-6-1
5. HAM 1-0-4
6. WEB 0-4-2
7. GRO 0-0-5
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 11-4-5
2. Mercedes AMG: 3-2-4
3. Ferrari: 2-5-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-6-6

Edit: spelling of quite a famous brand.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:26 pm
by mds
Just noticed: it's Mercedes, not Mercades ;)

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:15 pm
by AngusWolfe
mds wrote:Just noticed: it's Mercedes, not Mercades ;)

Indeed it is, dunno how I've gone most of the year without noticing. Thanks :)

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:29 pm
by AngusWolfe
USA update:

Drivers:
1. VET 12-1-3
2. ALO 2-5-1
3. ROS 2-2-0
4. RAI 1-6-1
5. HAM 1-0-4
6. WEB 0-4-3
7. GRO 0-1-5
8. MAS 0-0-1

Constructors:
1. Red Bull Renault: 12-4-6
2. Mercedes AMG: 3-2-4
3. Ferrari: 2-5-2
4. Lotus Renault: 1-7-6

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:23 pm
by AngusWolfe
Driver's Championship

Final Table (following Brazil):

1. Vettel: |13|1|2|
2. Alonso: |2|5|2|
3. Rosberg: |2|1|1|
4. Raikkonen: |1|6|3|
5. Hamilton: |1|0|4|
6. Webber: |0|5|2|
7. Massa: |0|0|1|
8. Grosjean: |0|1|5|
9. Button: 4th (5th) [6th x3]
10. Hulkenberg: 4th (5th) [6th x2]
11. Di Resta: 4th (6th)
12. Perez: 5th (6th x2)
13. Sutil: 5th (7th)
14. Vergne: 6th
15. Ricciardo: 7th x2 (8th)
16. Gutierrez: 7th
17. Bottas: 8th
18. Maldonado: 10th
19. Bianchi: 13th
20. Pic: 14th x2 (15 x2)
21. Kovalainen: 14th x2 (N/A)
22. Van Der Garde: 14th (15th x3)
23. Chilton: 14th (16)

Key:
|Golds|Silvers|Bronzes| - Medals
Xth - Highest finish
(Xth) - second highest finish
[Xth] - third highest finish[/quote]

Constructors Table to follow.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:43 pm
by AngusWolfe
1. Red Bull Renault: 13|6|5
2. Mercedes AMG: 3|1|5
3. Scuderia Ferrari: 2|5|3
4. Lotus Renault: 1|7|6
5. McLaren Mercades: 4th (5th x2)
6. Sauber Ferrari: 4th (5) [6x2]
7. Force India Mercades: 4th (5th) [6]
8. Torro Rosso Ferrari: 6th
9. Williams Renault: 8th
10. Marussia Cosworth: 13th
11. Caterham Renault: 14th

Right, that should be it, but considoring I'm:
A. A moron, and
B. Tired, there may be a few inaccuracies, as I'm also having to use a tablet.

Re: Medals System Table

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:58 am
by mds
Yeah there are a few things wrong...
- Webber has 3 third places
- RBR's points should be 13 - 6 - 5
- Ferrari should be 2 - 5 - 3
- Merc should be 3 - 1 - 5
- Sauber should be sixth and FI seventh, as it's Sauber that scored 2 6th places and FI only one