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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:35 pm 
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bbbrrrrrrrrrr did 70km yesterday with 750m climbing and the WIND WAS UNBELIEVABLE! Bitterly cold and I could barely get over 23kph on the flat in some places! Balanced that out by going over 45kph on the flat in others though. Felt like I'd done a ton.

Well pleased with my new (old) winter bike though. Picked it up for 200€ locally. Apart from being all italian and weighing probably about 12kg, it's fantastic. Got it up to 75kph before it felt like my face was being burned off in the wind, even with a balaclava on..

This winter must surely soon be over?

Not up to my summer fitness, but doing ok for this time of year :)


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For those in UK, there are a few good offers around for helmets, on Chain reaction and on Sportsdirect (only for today I think).

Thought I'd share with you guys/girls. It's probably because of the weather!


I just got myself a new one for a margin of what it used to be, after I bashed my old helmet.


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My fingers were freezing after just a few minutes (i have gloves). A couple of times last week I'd get back home and the cold fingers would be in shear pain for minutes... especially I i decided to wash them in hot water.

I think I'll give it a rest until the temp raises a little again.

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I won a pair of these and they are the best gloves I have ever had for cycling. I've ridden for over 2 hours in wind chill below zero and my fingers have always been toasty, not simply just warm enough.

They appear to be on sale for £16 atm. Bargain. In fact I'll probably order a second pair to put away for when my current ones wear out in a few years.

http://galibier.corecommerce.com/Winter-clothing/Barrier-Grip-winter-glove.html

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I have some Sealskinz, not for cycling per ce and quite expensive. I may try these Asphalt, thanks


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My fingers were freezing after just a few minutes (i have gloves). A couple of times last week I'd get back home and the cold fingers would be in shear pain for minutes... especially I i decided to wash them in hot water.

I think I'll give it a rest until the temp raises a little again.

Don't use hot water to warm fingers or anything! Rather drink something hot, and let your body do the job. Alternatively you can move them a bit, but the key is to be patient, no rush.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:04 am 
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I bought a pair of silk gloves from ebay for a few euros and wear these under my 4€ cycling gloves from Aldi - works a treat :) I only get cold fingers if the rest of my body isn't warm enough.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:10 am 
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domdonald wrote:
I bought a pair of silk gloves from ebay for a few euros and wear these under my 4€ cycling gloves from Aldi - works a treat :) I only get cold fingers if the rest of my body isn't warm enough.


I did the same after Asphalt suggested it, I got a pair for £3-4, which I wear inside the sealskinz. Brilliant idea


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Yep, silk inners are truly amazing. No ski glove I've ever worn has worked properly without the addition of these.

Amazingly I don't need them with my freebie gloves....

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Quick trip to Sports Direct today for a few other none cycling bits but also came away with 30 quid cycling glasses with 4 different lens colours for a tenner, plus a 30 quid track pump with a pressure gauge, also for a tenner. Result......

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Asphalt_World wrote:
Quick trip to Sports Direct today for a few other none cycling bits but also came away with 30 quid cycling glasses with 4 different lens colours for a tenner, plus a 30 quid track pump with a pressure gauge, also for a tenner. Result......


Nice.

Let me know if the gauge works, usually they break within a few uses...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:05 pm 
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Bargain...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-pd-m520-pedals/

And if your shoes don't come with any.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-spd-mtb-cleats/

I can't pick out shoes due to the massive variety.


After going into a shop and getting a closer look at the pedals (as well as the higher prices) I think I'll go for these SPDs http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-m424-spd-pedals/, they dont look as good as the ones you suggested but seem flat enough to pedal away in if I screw up trying the clip in.

Struggling looking for shoes though, most of the sale/bargain ones dont have my size. :(

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:22 pm 
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In my local sports direct they had a number of spd shoes in a variety of styles costing from about £30 reduced from double that.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:17 am 
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f1madman wrote:
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Bargain...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-pd-m520-pedals/

And if your shoes don't come with any.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-spd-mtb-cleats/

I can't pick out shoes due to the massive variety.


After going into a shop and getting a closer look at the pedals (as well as the higher prices) I think I'll go for these SPDs http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-m424-spd-pedals/, they dont look as good as the ones you suggested but seem flat enough to pedal away in if I screw up trying the clip in.

Struggling looking for shoes though, most of the sale/bargain ones dont have my size. :(


I have these pedals fitted and I am very happy. You'll like them, they are quite lighter than others of the same shape (especially the ones with metal frame).

I got some Specialized shoes for them, perfect


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SchumieRules wrote:
f1madman wrote:
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Bargain...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-pd-m520-pedals/

And if your shoes don't come with any.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-spd-mtb-cleats/

I can't pick out shoes due to the massive variety.


After going into a shop and getting a closer look at the pedals (as well as the higher prices) I think I'll go for these SPDs http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-m424-spd-pedals/, they dont look as good as the ones you suggested but seem flat enough to pedal away in if I screw up trying the clip in.

Struggling looking for shoes though, most of the sale/bargain ones dont have my size. :(


I have these pedals fitted and I am very happy. You'll like them, they are quite lighter than others of the same shape (especially the ones with metal frame).

I got some Specialized shoes for them, perfect


Specialised shoes? Wont any two cleat shoe do?

Asphalt, thanks I think my local sports direct was having a closing down sale before Christmas I'll go have a look if its still there.

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f1madman wrote:
SchumieRules wrote:
f1madman wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Bargain...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-pd-m520-pedals/

And if your shoes don't come with any.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-spd-mtb-cleats/

I can't pick out shoes due to the massive variety.


After going into a shop and getting a closer look at the pedals (as well as the higher prices) I think I'll go for these SPDs http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-m424-spd-pedals/, they dont look as good as the ones you suggested but seem flat enough to pedal away in if I screw up trying the clip in.

Struggling looking for shoes though, most of the sale/bargain ones dont have my size. :(


I have these pedals fitted and I am very happy. You'll like them, they are quite lighter than others of the same shape (especially the ones with metal frame).

I got some Specialized shoes for them, perfect


Specialised shoes? Wont any two cleat shoe do?

Asphalt, thanks I think my local sports direct was having a closing down sale before Christmas I'll go have a look if its still there.


It should I just got the Specialized as they looked more like normal shoes. The cleats are included in the pedals


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Off to the Manchester velodrome a week on Wednesday for my first ever ride on a track. Excitement doesn't even begin to explain how I feel about this.

(Although I am a little nervous about no brakes and a fixed gear if I'm honest)

BRING IT ON!!!!!

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How was the velodrome Asphalt?

I just ordered over £100 worth of pedals and shoes >_<

What's happened to me, I'm usually pretty pragmatic with money, I could've bleeding bought another bike!

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Just arrived today at my sisters in west Yorkshire. Heading into the pennines tomorrow for some hill riding then velodrome Wednesday at 5.

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Inspired by Cancellara's 10m sprint in the Paris Roubaix no doubt :)


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Just to warn you all before I ask this question I don't take cycling seriously at all, just go out for the odd ride here and there but I have a quick question to ask and I thought I would ask all of you more experienced cyclists rather than create a new thread, so here goes.

My plan is to lose a bit of weight, just to make myself happier and healthier more than anything but as I said above I don't get out on my bike much and I'm frankly a fair weather cyclist at best so this is my question. Can anyone reccomend me a decent exercise bike, not overly expensive but not dirt cheap either. Failing a good suggestion for an exercise bike does anybody rate (or even used) one of these?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powerfly-Foldin ... 79&sr=1-18

That may work out as a cheaper alternative and still provide good results in terms of weight loss, but I'm a little skeptical as I've never used one so not sure of the amount of resistance provided.

I hope someone here can help.

Edit: about the price, I'm fairly flexible but I was thinking about the £150 mark, obviously depending on the product.

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For 150 quid you could easily get clothing suitable for riding in the harshest of conditions and therefore enjoy proper cycling. It's a better way to get fit and the scenery even on child wet days is nicer than the living room walls.....

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Well my first ever ride on a velodrome was simply staggering. So much fun and such a hard workout despite this being my first go and not reaching too higher speeds.

I'll upload some pics in the next few days.

God it was good!!!

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Asphalt_World wrote:
For 150 quid you could easily get clothing suitable for riding in the harshest of conditions and therefore enjoy proper cycling. It's a better way to get fit and the scenery even on child wet days is nicer than the living room walls.....


Very good point, what would you reccomend then? Obviously I have lights, a high vis jacket, lights and a pair of cycling gloves. I probably just need to start cycling more often really then I will get into it more.

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Hi Robbo.. I bought a 3 year old second hand alu frame bike with cheap Campagnolo kit on it for 250€ a few weeks ago, so it's possible to find a road bike which would suit your needs for that kind of money. I have a nice lightweight bike for the summer. If your aim is to lose weight, then having the lightest bike and gear out there is not the main factor (although it is nice and motivating to have a decent bike).

I did lots of cycling as a teenager (see profile picture!), but started again last year in order to lose weight. I'm not tall, but was up at 92kg (ouch!). I got a mountain bike first and only managed about 8km (actually putting effort in) a few times a week. Quickly I started losing weight at about 1kg per week more or less and I got fitter and fitter. I'm now down to 74kg and ride around 150km a week in the winter and more in the summer. It was a brilliant way to burn calories, enjoy the countryside and get fit. I'm fitter now than ever, but then you need to spend more time on the bike to stay at that level of fitness.

What I would say is that there is cycling and there's cycling....I pass people most days who are just touring around with all their expensive kit, not really putting in any effort. When I was losing weight, I really put in the effort. I then got into timing certain routes to see if I was improving.. then I got into using GPS and uploading data and comparing my performance with others.. and all this gave me the motivation to keep trying. Anyone can tour around for hours using hardly any energy. BUt combined with lower carb intake, the speed at which I lost weight was astonishing.

When you begin to enjoy it though, be prepared for the urge to buy more kit. Better bike, better kit, lights, lighter wheels, tyres etc!

Asphalt's right about the clothing though. I buy mine from either Aldi or online. I paid 80€ for my thermal Mavic water-resistant jacket, 15€ for undershirt, 4€ for gloves, 8€ for overshoes, 20€ for long thermal leggings (or whatever you call them in english), 15€ for shorts, 10€ for jersey.. oh.. and of course shoes and helmet.


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@domdonald, thanks for your extensive reply, a few good points to consider. I think I have a fairly decent bike which I bought a while ago, its more for on road use rather than off road, not sure about the weight though. What trainers would you reccomend? As im clueless about trainers to use for cycling.
I think I might try to put a few miles in tonight when I have finished work, hopefully once I've started it will be easier to keep going.

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I think the enjoyment comes from seeing the weight loss results and later from actually "getting into" the sport. I have never used trainers for cycling, but in order to minimise my outlay at the beginning, I bought some SPD MTB pedals (25€) which were like normal pedals on one side and SPD on the other (http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-m324-co ... on-pedals/). I then bought some MTB cycling shoes (easier to walk in, more durable) with SPD cleats (http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-spd-mtb-cleats/) and this way I could use the same shoes and cleats on both my MTB and my road bike(s), whilst still having the option of wearing trainers on my MTB if I just wanted to nip down the shops, for example.

Trainers would be fine to start with, but having SPD pedals is a lot better for safety and "getting the power down".

Once you get used to going out and you have the right basic gear, you'll get more comfortable with going out in the dark, rain, cold etc. Start with short distances though, but really put in the effort. If you blow up, then have a rest and go again. Next time set yourself another little target to go further. You can get a cheap bike computer for a few euros (e.g. from Sigma) so you can maintain speeds - otherwise you'd have the tendency to slow down..

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Just received my new peddles and they are MTB SPD

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-pd-m530 ... il-pedals/

They're heavier than I expected as soon as I attached one pedal the crank instantly rotated round to the bottom.

Also got these shoes!:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/northwave-sparta-mtb-shoes/

Problem is I've been practising in the utility room clipping in and out of the pedals.... but as soon as one foot is clipped in, there is no way of me attaching the other foot without leaning into our fridge!

I'm not sure how I'll survive out there. I suppose I'll have to pedal with one foot and get moving before attempting to get the other in and trying not to lose balance!

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With SPD pedals you can ride fine for a short distance without actually clipping both feet in. Just pull away as normal. Then once you are moving clip it in. With practice you will find it clips in without you really doing anything because your feet will naturally go to the correct spot.

Spd-sl pedals are harder but it's still possible to do the same. I was at the front of a queue at traffic lights today. It was a steep hill start as well. I just pushed off hard with the shoe that was clipped in and the other shoe just went on to the other pedal well enough to push on. Next time round it just clipped in without me doing it on purpose.

Start on a quiet road stopping and starting a few times. You'll get it sorted very quickly. Let me know how it goes.

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Well here I am in blue getting coaching from my brother in law wearing yellow.

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The banking is ridiculously steep....

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And one of 3 similarly sized souvenirs I came away with from one crash. Two on one arm and another on my right hip.....

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OUCH! Why'd you fall over for? :P

Do you have to take your own bike to a velodrome or can you borrow one?

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If you own a track bike you can use it but few of us do (yet!).

Otherwise its all included in the price. I paid 4.50 extra for shoe hire as the track bikes provided have Look cleats so my SPD-SL cleats won't fit.

I fell really early on, only my second lap on the banking. You start off riding round the flat blue zone to get used to the bike and learning how to slow a bike without brakes. Then when you are showing a bit of speed the coach sends you on to the wood. I made it round the first corner but at the next I came up behind someone going much slower. Not yet having the confidence to move up the banking and go round them, I stupidly backed off a little. The front wheel went light and skidded down the banking taking me with it. About 2 second later, the woman cycling behind me rode straight in to me hitting the front wheel of her bike between my shoulder blades. She and the bike then somersaulted over the top of me as you can see in the picture. My back is pretty bruised today...

I dusted myself down, checked the lady was OK, got back on and very nervously built up speed on the blue, found some space in front and went for it. Took about 20 laps I'd say to feel comfortable before I was able to start going faster and move up the banking. My brother in law acted as a pace bike which was really useful.

By the end we were taking 2 laps each on the front, then pulling up high on the banking and diving back down behind each other.

Felt like a real pro...... :-D

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f1madman wrote:
Just received my new peddles and they are MTB SPD

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-pd-m530 ... il-pedals/

They're heavier than I expected as soon as I attached one pedal the crank instantly rotated round to the bottom.

Also got these shoes!:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/northwave-sparta-mtb-shoes/

Problem is I've been practising in the utility room clipping in and out of the pedals.... but as soon as one foot is clipped in, there is no way of me attaching the other foot without leaning into our fridge!

I'm not sure how I'll survive out there. I suppose I'll have to pedal with one foot and get moving before attempting to get the other in and trying not to lose balance!


What Asphalt said is sound.

Plus, as I only started using them a few months ago, so I can sympathise! It will come naturally mate, don't worry. I too tried in my corridor, but couldn't get it to work. So I tried it slowly in the road. Missed it so many times in the beginning, but after a while my foot was just doing it by memory. Almost clipping by itself.

Word of advice: set it up properly before you go out. A "light" setting is necessary (for me at least), so you can unclip from the pedal as fast as possible with the minimum strength needed. And alway, always unclip one foot in advance when you see red on the traffic lights or any obstruction on the road. You'll probably find out the hard way why... I've only fell once on the side, on a traffic junction, but I was lucky not to have any cars behind me at the time. I can't stress this enough, be careful on the traffic junctions and also on some difficult downhill rides if you decide to go off road.


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yes, those of us who've learned the hard way know that getting your feet out of such pedals whilst lying on your side on the floor is almost impossible :D

I remember running upstairs as a kid and hiding under my duvet with my hands over my ears after waving goodbye to my dad at the downstairs lounge window.. he was trying out his new Look pedals, reached the end of the driveway and a pedestrian went past on the pavement so my dad had to slow down.. before keeling over in slow motion, whilst waving and shrugging apologetically to the passer by..

But really, as Schumie and Asphalt said, as long as you take one foot out before you stop, you'll be fine. You'll always have one foot in the clips to pull away and then you just put the other one in without looking (I have double-sided SPD so I don't have to spin them round to get them the right way up).

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Thanks for the tips guys, been dreading trying it out and then the rain finally stopped so I had little excuse not to go out for a few minutes.

It was much easier than I thought, probably helped that I kept the springs in the lightest setting and I could somewhat pedal without being properly clipped in to keep the momentum going. ITs quite surprising how easily it goes in. I keep worrying I haven't got the front of the cleat up against the front of the pedal and as soon as I put some force down "click"! Its nice, but I haven't had a long cycle to notice if is better or not yet, just been clipping in and out for 10 minutes and stopping on different legs.

Although I've managed to scratch and scrape some of the lovely white paint off my new peddles :( when I initially try to get the cleats on the correct bit of the peddle.

Also interestingly I noticed I need a bit of toe-out on my right shoe. I made sure to align my cleats dead centre and dead straight, not impressed with my right foot that it keeps feeling restricted in rotating clockwise. Oddly if I were to rotate it anymore clockwise than it was I'd feel heel would get too close to the gear/chains? Maybe I pedal with a slightly wider stance too.

I suppose adding a bit of toe-out to both shoes should make it easier to clip out of? But moving the cleats sideways to widen my stance reduce that advantage a little?

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well done on getting going with the pedals.

The cheat position on my right shoe is significantly different to the left. None of us are perfectly symmetrical and clip pedals highlight this easily.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:07 pm 
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Surprised to see such an active cycling thread as the few times I've been to the UK I've hardly seen a single cyclist, which isn't surprising as the roads were so narrow and twisty and full of speeding cars without any cyclist lanes :?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:47 pm 
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Covalent wrote:
Surprised to see such an active cycling thread as the few times I've been to the UK I've hardly seen a single cyclist, which isn't surprising as the roads were so narrow and twisty and full of speeding cars without any cyclist lanes :?


The roads where I live and incredibly quiet and cycling is huge in the UK, especially in some counties.

Personally, unless cycle lanes are separated from the road with kerbs then I think they are more trouble than good. Simple painted lines are useless.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:52 pm 
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Oh, and on Sunday I'm doing a sportive in Norfolk which is in a very low population area, but all 500 places were booked up months ago. Similarly, in sleepy quiet Suffolk, I'll be doing another supportive in 4 weeks which last year had just under 1000 people taking part. It starts and finishes in the middle of nowhere so its not like it's based in a town like Ipswich or Bury st Edmund's which have reasonable populations that may encourage period to turn out if it was local to them.

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