Rate the Trump Presidency
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:59 pm
Its been over 50 days since Donald J Trump became the 45th President of the United States. What is your rating of him so far?
I hope he does not make it to the end of the term.Blake wrote:Batfish crazy is almost complimentary to this miserable excuse of a immature bully. If I weren't in the sane "boat", i'd say that those who voted for him are getting just what they deserve. I just hope this country survives him and his flunkies.
Only if the Republican leaders in congress feel that their own seats would be in jeopardy if they didn't impeach. Despite the way it seems the public as a whole is reacting to this dumpster fire of an administration I don't see the Democrats flipping enough seats in the mid-term elections next year to take back both houses. So we're stuck pinning our hopes on the GOP to put country before party for a change.Mr-E wrote:If the investigation into Trump shows clear ties to Russia, would that be enough to get this clown impeached?
Have you forgotten about George Bush jr? It's just a different way of acting stupid.Blinky McSquinty wrote:The guy tells everyone that he's smart, but he acts like the biggest idiot in public office.
Bush Jr never postured to appear smart or brag he was some genius.minchy wrote:Have you forgotten about George Bush jr? It's just a different way of acting stupid.Blinky McSquinty wrote:The guy tells everyone that he's smart, but he acts like the biggest idiot in public office.
I know that yelling reaction all too well.... and then there is the depression as I daily realize that this egotistical, immature, buffoon is the president of this country...and that most of his supporters would vote for him again...RaggedMan wrote:George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.
Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.
It starts looking like a (destructive?) cult or something.Blake wrote:I know that yelling reaction all too well.... and then there is the depression as I daily realize that this egotistical, immature, buffoon is the president of this country...and that most of his supporters would vote for him again...RaggedMan wrote:George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.
Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.
Too depressing to think about.
Don't get me started on evangelical Christian politicians. Biggest bunch of hypocrites ever.Prema wrote:It starts looking like a (destructive?) cult or something.Blake wrote:I know that yelling reaction all too well.... and then there is the depression as I daily realize that this egotistical, immature, buffoon is the president of this country...and that most of his supporters would vote for him again...RaggedMan wrote:George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.
Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.
Too depressing to think about.
“President Trump is the greatest thing that’s happened to this country, I consider it a Biblical miracle that he’s there.”
And that's not just some hillbilly from Alabama woods, but the senator (guess, from those same woods anyway).
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv ... l-miracle/
I remember the Mitt Romney (I think) campaign video from the previous elections. Something along the lines of 'As a white christian American, I want to do what's best for people, but if anyone comes near my family I'll blow their heads off'. Hmmm, yes, very christian!!!RaggedMan wrote:Don't get me started on evangelical Christian politicians. Biggest bunch of hypocrites ever.Prema wrote:It starts looking like a (destructive?) cult or something.Blake wrote:I know that yelling reaction all too well.... and then there is the depression as I daily realize that this egotistical, immature, buffoon is the president of this country...and that most of his supporters would vote for him again...RaggedMan wrote:George W. never made a speech with multiple "Only I can [fix said problem]" he just made all of the same type of campaign promises that offer vague allusions to how they're going to change things that politicians do.
Trump didn't have any position papers on his campaign website. Only his promises from speeches and talking points in written form. Anybody who was expecting actual policy to come from a Trump White House was fooling themselves. Consider the fact that his answer to a question about his intelligence was "I have a good brain." That's not paraphrasing, that is the actual quote. When combined with "I know a lot of words. I have the best words." Well all I can do right now is shake my head and yell at the TV.
Too depressing to think about.
“President Trump is the greatest thing that’s happened to this country, I consider it a Biblical miracle that he’s there.”
And that's not just some hillbilly from Alabama woods, but the senator (guess, from those same woods anyway).
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv ... l-miracle/
I was packed off to Sunday school at an evangelical church every week until I was 9-10 and saw first hand how those who were holiest during services were the ones most apt to be up to no good during the rest of the week.
I understand your dilemma, but the man is just dangerous!!jasonthebadger wrote:It's hard to say....
To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.
I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.
This thing with Trump and non political correctness, it is but the part of pro-Trump propaganda, a myth of him being "straight shooter" and not politically correct talker like those usual politicians. No, the truth is that he did not raise above that level exactly. He simply does not qualify to it. Being abusive, vindictive, rude, calling people names, insulting, gross, lying, manipulative, petulant...jasonthebadger wrote:It's hard to say....
To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.
I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.
It is both reckless and utterly cynical. What's worse, many people in America will believe him on that one.Option or Prime wrote:I understand your dilemma, but the man is just dangerous!!jasonthebadger wrote:It's hard to say....
To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.
I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.
What amazes me is that with Trump demonstrating he simply can't get things done even with a majority that the Democrats have not found an challenger to oppose him. I would never vote for someone who denies things like climate change exist and then tries to dismantle every one else's efforts.
This latest Obamacare stance where he is prepared to watch things collapse around him to prove a point is just reckless.
It would not surprise me in the slightest to see an independent candidate in the mix is 18 months time as people realise he is just unable to do anything. I'm looking forward to seeing a solar Mexican wall too!
The biggest joke in all of this is that they had 7 years in which they held majorities in both houses and instead of spending that time coming up with something that at least they could agree amongst their own party was better they simply kept coming up, and passing, repeal bills that they knew would be safely vetoed.Prema wrote:It is both reckless and utterly cynical. What's worse, many people in America will believe him on that one.Option or Prime wrote:I understand your dilemma, but the man is just dangerous!!jasonthebadger wrote:It's hard to say....
To be honest I'd hate to be an American and have to vote in that election!
It's like South Park, A choice between a Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
I think of Trump as an oaf but I like how blunt he is, even if I don't agree with what he is saying.
He never has got into the political correctness BS that everyone does these days.
There's quite literally nothing I liked about Clinton nor did I trust her at all.
She seemed to me like she was hiding an agenda and none of her answers in the debates were real answers.
I'd have voted for Trump, for better or worse.
What amazes me is that with Trump demonstrating he simply can't get things done even with a majority that the Democrats have not found an challenger to oppose him. I would never vote for someone who denies things like climate change exist and then tries to dismantle every one else's efforts.
This latest Obamacare stance where he is prepared to watch things collapse around him to prove a point is just reckless.
It would not surprise me in the slightest to see an independent candidate in the mix is 18 months time as people realise he is just unable to do anything. I'm looking forward to seeing a solar Mexican wall too!
It is like the owner of the bus telling to the passengers that the bus they are riding on is going to eventually and so soon ditch and many will get injured and maybe die. See, the tires are in a terrible condition, but those are the tyres that came along with the bus when he took over the business back then, so it is not he who owns the responsibility, and they should go sue the previous owner.
The day or two after the elections, Ryan declared that they, Republicans, had the one-in-life opportunity to do and fix all: they gained the control over the WH, the House and the Senate! And they failed. Miserably. Ah, blame Obama.
It is a catch 22 for Reps. They can't simply repeal, it would be a political suicide (wonder why not if ACA is a death spiral anyway?). But they do not have the will to replace it with something better., not to fix it either. Only towards the worse. They are stuck. The blessing turning into a curse.
The only way would be to go towards the universal national health service, as the rest of the civilized world have had it in place for long now (both socialistic and capitalistic social systems). But someone got to make big bucks on selling the health insurances, no?
"Aetna, Anthem, Cigna, Humana and UnitedHealth Group — the big five for-profit insurers — cumulatively collected $4.5 billion in net earnings in the first three months of 2017"
That is why any programs type ACA is going to fail by default. And that is why the replacement for "better" is not possible. You can't have it both ways, folks to have good and affordable health insurance at law cost, and make those rich folks shareholders of those companies be richer. Take a pick.
So Obama's sin is not ACA in itself, but that there is no easy way out of it anymore. Folks got a taste for a NHS - can't take that away now. That's why the new failed proposal had under 20% of approval.
I can see that and have heard it from other sources. However if that truly is the case then by being completely incompetent he's doing more damage to his brand that anything else ever could've.kleefton wrote:Don't know if any of you guys listen to Howard Stern; radio talk show host, but he actually says he knows Trump pretty well, and that in his opinion, Trump never wanted to be president. He ran for the presidency just so he can get more publicity for his brand, his name. He was sure he would lose to Hillary Clinton but of course it didn't pan out that way.
That would explain his behavior. Because nearly everything he has done since he's been in office resemble the actions of someone who wants no part of the job. He probably can't wait to get out of there. His 2020 campaign should be interesting to say the least.
The Democrats' change candidate? Bernie Sanders' voters reportedly flocked to Trump when Hillary beat him to the nomination, because he was running on a platform of overhauling the system as well. I don't know in practice how good he would have been, but I dare say he would have been more predictable and probably less harmful than Trump.Option or Prime wrote:Interesting comment I heard recently was that in keeping with other countries, UK and France for example the USA voted for a change, hence Trump's election, however, as a result of the ineffective way he is carrying out his election pledges, his chaotic Whitehouse employment policy and his get me out of here attitude, (17 days holiday?) he is doing considerable damage to American politics. Who do the voters turn to if their change candidate fails?
Bernie is to Trump what a day is to a night.Tufty wrote:The Democrats' change candidate? Bernie Sanders' voters reportedly flocked to Trump when Hillary beat him to the nomination, because he was running on a platform of overhauling the system as well. I don't know in practice how good he would have been, but I dare say he would have been more predictable and probably less harmful than Trump.Option or Prime wrote:Interesting comment I heard recently was that in keeping with other countries, UK and France for example the USA voted for a change, hence Trump's election, however, as a result of the ineffective way he is carrying out his election pledges, his chaotic Whitehouse employment policy and his get me out of here attitude, (17 days holiday?) he is doing considerable damage to American politics. Who do the voters turn to if their change candidate fails?
Hopefully it was indeed a joke, lest we actually have a blind trumpie in our midst.Asphalt_World wrote:Who the hell voted 'great' or 'good'.
Seriously, this must be a joke. The odd mistake I can understand, but every day he talks utter cr@p. He's the biggest embarrassment to the US that I can remember.
Gah! I hate that brain dead mouthpiece with the power of a thousand suns.Black_Flag_11 wrote:So for me the funniest thing to surface on Trump recently is the transcript with Mexico's president where he claimed he won New Hampshire because it was a "Drug-infested den". The funny bit isn't that he's offended the people of NH but that he didn't win it, Clinton did.
I've said it before but I don't know whether he actually knows he is lying when he says these things or if he is so deluded he automatically believes anything that comes out of his own mouth. It's incredible to watch.
What's less funny is the stuff like his 'news' videos on Facebook. Basically looks like he watched North Korean state propaganda one day and decided it would be a great idea. Try to stomach all one and a half minutes of this if you can and then if you really fancy losing some more faith in humanity, read the comments.
https://youtu.be/XcEaB4Py_sA
The thing here is that most people who run for office have an idea beyond a simple statement of what the things they're campaigning on will be even if they're not career politicians. Ross Perot was a single issue candidate running on the idea of bringing a business man's perspective to national spending. Although the two things are completely different and really can't work that way he had detailed plans that were published explaining his plan.Option or Prime wrote:Interesting comment I heard recently was that in keeping with other countries, UK and France for example the USA voted for a change, hence Trump's election, however, as a result of the ineffective way he is carrying out his election pledges, his chaotic Whitehouse employment policy and his get me out of here attitude, (17 days holiday?) he is doing considerable damage to American politics. Who do the voters turn to if their change candidate fails?
Mr-E wrote:If the investigation into Trump shows clear ties to Russia, would that be enough to get this clown impeached?
Please provide evidence, in the form of a link, that proves the BBC are saying Trump will be impeached over Russia or retract this.rotbimmer wrote:Mr-E wrote:If the investigation into Trump shows clear ties to Russia, would that be enough to get this clown impeached?
No, there's no clear ties. Business ties before he was POTUS sure, but nothing impeachable. Stop watching CNN or the BBC as they're doing nothing but providing junk mews.
There could be a video log of Trump burning American flags and sending Russia top US military secrets written in their ashes and he wouldn't get impeached because the Republicans would always control more than enough of the House and/or the Senate to block it.Option or Prime wrote:Please provide evidence, in the form of a link, that proves the BBC are saying trump will be impeached over Russia or retract this.rotbimmer wrote:Mr-E wrote:If the investigation into Trump shows clear ties to Russia, would that be enough to get this clown impeached?
No, there's no clear ties. Business ties before he was POTUS sure, but nothing impeachable. Stop watching CNN or the BBC as they're doing nothing but providing junk mews.