F1 MERCENARY wrote:moby wrote:HS Thompson wrote:dizlexik wrote:So I would need iDevice to watch F1? Sorry, but I will never buy such.
Yeah, buying a $99 Apple TV is such a hardship.
It would cost me $80/month to get F1 into my house. I wont pay that so F1 loses out.
You think it would be free even if you had an Ios TV?
Have Apple ever given anything free? Its the way they work. They rope you in a few £ at a time, then befor you know it you have too much invested in it to switch
BTW, there are emulators that run most Ios stuff just fine on windows Android and Linux.
As an apple tech for the last 23 years I can unequivocally say YES!!! They have absolutely given away their system for free for a very long time.
Some people need to open their eyes and see what portions of stories and rumors they hear are factually based or even true. I have one nit wit here who LIED about his knowledge in writing code and scripting and he swears Apple is the antichrist but can't tell anyone why or why his Samsung/Droid products are better or in what way.
This is the A-typical Apple detractor and it's laughable to me.
And before anyone JUMPS to label me an Apple fanboy, I used to work in windows exclusively so have plenty of years with both systems, and I was part of a class action lawsuit against them in 2008 over the new generation (aluminum) iMac and am well aware of the lawsuit they lost in regards to the MacBooks in 2006 and several others, so I realize they are not without their faults/flaws. I am not claiming they are perfect but it's exhausting to here people bashing them based on VERY LITTLE experience working with their products. The average home user will never know the full potential of their Apple products, but for those of us who have used them in a professional environment, we know way more than even their Apple Store employees. Most of those people are a joke IMPO and experience. Our in-house IT department is comprised of ex-Apple "Geniuses" and they are so lost and out of their depth it's absurd. Hence why I have to go set up our server and services as well as the network in here. The difference is that since I've been working on Macs since the Classic OS, I have experienced every single iteration of the systems and as a result have encountered issues you would only see when working with ultra-high end equipment. Sort of a been there, broke my head to figure it out, done that, so I can point out and recognize issues that even some diagnostics softwares cannot detect.
As for their possible buy-out of F1, I stated many years ago that Apple should be involved with F1 as a major sponsor. With IBM, HP Compaq and several other technology/computer manufacturing companies sponsoring and partnering so many F1 teams, I've long seen it as a very relevant place for Apple to jump in head first.
As many on here, I do not own an Apple TV as to this point I have not see the benefit in owning one because I can remote link my iMac or MacBook to the TV and stream whatever I want just the same, only for free and I am an avid lover of my DirecTV since forever. However, it has also been rumored that Apple will be dipping it's heels in the Cable Television industry so "IF" and "WHEN" they do, only then will I see it as a viable option. And there is no way F1 will be broadcast solely through AppleTV. If that happens it will only be so if they offer ALL of the same programming as the major cable giants do, in which case the pricing and quality would be comparable and changing over would then make sense.
We have a lot more in common that I thought!!
I used to work in the Windows world. I am Microsoft certified and all that. Worked for a major electronics company in Australia as head of IT. Set up a consultancy with my wife in 2003 and moved solely to Apple. No viruses. No worrying about the network going down. Servers that run and run.
Did a contract job with another company to one of the major banks down here a few years ago. All they ran was Apple even though their clients (banks) used Windows.
They needed a stable platform to run virtual machines and test environments locally on their laptops.
Laptops that don't slow down after 1-2 years with all the windows bloat.
Re Apple TV. Get one, they are great!
One thing Appe does when you buy a laptop it comes with: email, calendar, contacts, spreadsheet program, word processor, power point equivalent, photo editing, video editing, music editing/recording (garage band where you can even download piano and guitar lessons).
Apple have provided these programs for free for the last 5 years or more, and almost force Microsoft to do the same except Office which is their cash cow.
On Andriod, Google gives it away for free. Why? Because they keep tabs on everything you do.
They use that information to sell advertising.
I had a look the other day and it was highly disturbing the level of detail they keep. Opened this webpage, searched for this, when to YouTube, searched for this, watched these 3 videos etc etc.
It is per device too, and to make it worse, if you use google services like gmail, they link all that search/web stuff to you.
Enough of my tech rant.
On topic. I don't think Apple sponsor anything.
However it was reported yesterday they are making a TV show. A bit like Netflix does. Maybe they are about to embark into a streaming service, which has been rumored for a while.
They were trying to get cable companies on board but Apple wanted to let users cherry pick what they wanted. The Cable companies want to bundle a million bad channels with a few good ones (as usual).
Personally I would love an F1 app on the Apple TV which had live access and access to every historical race for the last 30 years. I would pay $100 for that a year without even thinking.
(Apple offer Apple Music on Andriod so it would be available on every device/laptop not just Apple stuff like one user thought)
$100 @ 10 million people = 1 Billion Dollars
$100 @ 100 million people = 10 Billion dollars.
I think the F1 revenue from the tracks and TV rights now is around 1.7 Billion per year. So the potential to have more money, more teams, more drivers etc is huge.
The problem F1 has got now is short sighted. F1 has slowly switched from free to air channels to cable companies around the world as the cable companies pay more money. However less people have cable.
So even though Bernie has improved his profitability in the short term, that will come with less eye balls seeing F1, and then getting hooked. And to make matters worse, the Merc dominace, (and Red Bull before them) has made a lot of the old faithful turn off too. So less eye balls now, and even less into the future.
As mentioned above, a better model, for F1 would be to offer a premium streaming service globally, and accept less money to play the races only on free to air from broadcasters maybe in standard def, maybe delayed until the next day. The incentive to subscribe would be that you get all the extra stuff like quali, interviews and a coverage like Sky etc plus historical races. Maybe as a subscriber you can choose your favourite team, and they get $5 from your subscription like a football member ship.
There are so many things that could be done. The problem is that Bernie is from the old school. And he is pretty old. I don't think major change will come until he has retired.
I remember reading that for CVC, F1 has been their best investment ever. They have pulled so much cash out of it.
That is why the teams are crying poor.
CVC need to reinvest in their cash cow, or give it up for the good of the sport and go and ruin something else...