j man wrote:Alienturnedhuman wrote:j man wrote:Jimbox01 wrote:EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum
140,475 signatures and counting...
Even as someone who voted for Remain, I find this ridiculous. Repeating the vote until you get the result you want is not democracy.
1. This is never an issue that should have been put to a referendum - the EU is a very complicated international treaty on which fundamentally affected our economy
2. The result had less than 4% between each side - if it had been the other way then Leave would have been demanding another referendum very soon.
3. The consequences of the result have already been devastating.
4. Leave have already admitted they won't keep their promises, and as such many of the people voted based on lies.
1. I see no problem with bigger issues being put to a referendum. UKIP's rise in popularity showed that the EU issue had started to dominate the general election and people were voting for parties based solely on their EU stance and ignoring everything else they might have to offer. The Conservatives also promised a referendum in their general election campaign and no one raised this concern then, rather they ended up with a majority of the vote. If the general population are not well informed enough to make this decision then you have to ask why. I'd see this as a failure of the political class to properly educate and inform the electorate, rather than a failure of the democratic process.
2. Probably yes, particularly as I imagine UKIP's popularity would have continued to rise and they would have been making similar noises as the SNP have been since the Scottish independence vote.
3. Indisputably yes, and it very much concerns me. Even the Leave campaign conceded that a short term hit was inevitable. However the long term impact of this is very much unknown (incidentally the primary reason why I voted Remain - I was quite satisfied with the status quo and saw no reason to vote for change) and I think a lot of the Remain arguments were based on the EU continuing as it were post-Brexit, but I don't believe this to be case. We can only wait and see how this pans out.
4. There were plenty of lies, propaganda and spin from both campaigns. I feel a Remain vote would have been based at least partially on lies as well.
This is up to well over a million now. What is the point at which it can not be ignored?
Many people on local radio claiming they voted out as a protest and never imagined it would win