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i find it utterly laughable that, with the amount of abuse the refs get in EVERY game, from players, fans and coaching staff, that Chelsea have their panties in a bunch over something the ref reportedly said to them... and the whole racial thing is just utter insanity that they're complaining about that...

Tricky game to comment on. Glad we won... but we made it hard on ourselves by sitting back when we got leads... we just have to stop doing that c**p.

the way the game went... i'm surprised there were only two Red cards given...
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SDLRob wrote:i find it utterly laughable that, with the amount of abuse the refs get in EVERY game, from players, fans and coaching staff, that Chelsea have their panties in a bunch over something the ref reportedly said to them... and the whole racial thing is just utter insanity that they're complaining about that...

Tricky game to comment on. Glad we won... but we made it hard on ourselves by sitting back when we got leads... we just have to stop doing that c**p.

the way the game went... i'm surprised there were only two Red cards given...


1. Can you please provide a reliable source that CFC are complaining about something racial.
2. I agree they shouldn't concentrate on what the ref said but rather on the quality or should I say lack of quality showed by him today. That was utterly laughable.
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To be fair, Chelsea have not said it was a racist comment but have announced to the press room that it was 2 black players that have complained. Odd thing for Chelsea to say really if it's not a racist issue.
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Oh and Torres dived. The contact was minute but the way his left leg folded up under him despite that bot being the side caught was pathetic.

Refs can book players for diving even if contact is made. They simply have to believe the player could have stayed on their feet.
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Asphalt_World is right... it wasn't said specifically that it was racial... but to specify that it was two black players is nothing more than pointing a large flashing arrow at it being racial in nature
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Plus he could have already been off for this.


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Asphalt_World wrote:Oh and Torres dived. The contact was minute but the way his left leg folded up under him despite that bot being the side caught was pathetic.

Refs can book players for diving even if contact is made. They simply have to believe the player could have stayed on their feet.

Yeah but if Evans is jumping in with two feet and makes contact (and possibly even if he doesn't) it should be a straight red, no place for tackles like that. If Torres foot had been planted and he makes contact it could be career ending.
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Asphalt_World wrote:Plus he could have already been off for this.

And all that does is highlight how crap the ref was. Two incidents, he got both of them wrong.
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SDLRob wrote:Asphalt_World is right... it wasn't said specifically that it was racial... but to specify that it was two black players is nothing more than pointing a large flashing arrow at it being racial in nature


Only official thing I have seen about is this from Sky:
Chelsea did not go into details after the game, but a spokesman confirmed two separate incidents of Clattenburg's "inappropriate language" have been reported.

He said: "We have lodged a complaint to the Premier League match delegate with regards to inappropriate language used by the referee and directed at two of our players in two separate incidents in today's match.

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It was off side. Never mentioned it because I was more interested in the situation re the ref rather than an offside goal which happens every week pretty much.
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He was offside... but with three players blocking the Lino's view... he was stuck with a situation of either giving it and it being offside or not giving it and it was onside... two equally bad situations & he had to decide in a few seconds.
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Poker wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:Oh and Torres dived. The contact was minute but the way his left leg folded up under him despite that bot being the side caught was pathetic.

Refs can book players for diving even if contact is made. They simply have to believe the player could have stayed on their feet.



Might want to double check .... IIRC, if contact is made no card for simulation can be given. Can be non call, but not card.

No comment about the offside winner by Chicharito?



a card can be given if the player is intentionally trying to deceive the referee (going down too easily, even if contact is made etc), according to a referee on sky sports news

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IMHO Evans went in clumsily and made contact... Torres, feeling the slight contact, made sure he went down. The ref's angle was such that i doubt he actually saw the contact, just the sight of Torres making sure he went down, to which he took to be him Diving and he got a yellow...resulting in the red.
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whats going on in the premier league!

Clattenburg has been accused of racial language against 1 or 2 chelsea players!?

not all the details are known, but if i remember correctly, the referees are miked up, so hopefully this can be resolved quickly,

but i suspect not, if the past year is anything to go by

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I really don't understand this world. The amount of abuse players and managers give referees week in week out is crazy and as soon as 1 referee says something back, we're having a full investigation?

If Chelsea are seriously trying to do this then they better have good hard evidence to back it up because, if this turns out to be not the case, they'll be for a whole load of fairy cakes from Referee's wherever they play.
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And what went on post match is staggering if the rumours are even partly confirmed.
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Asphalt_World wrote:And what went on post match is staggering if the rumours are even partly confirmed.



what happened? i missed it?

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Apparently huge confrontation with the ref with one Gooner threatening to break the refs legs. All rumours atm.
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arsenal 4-0 down against Reading, game ends up 4-4!

two late goals, one 5 minutes into stoppage time lol

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20135129

Um..... As an Everton supporter one can only laugh at this. Suarez fouled Distin and Mirallas deliberately, and was left on the pitch. The phrase " Always the victims" comes to mind; the little respect I had for Liverpool has now vanished, bitter team, bitter manager and bitter captain.

On a light note Arsenal 7? Woah!

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Following the Chelsea / Ref situation is fascinating. I suspect Chelsea will come out rather badly from all this.
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Willthepessimist wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20135129

Um..... As an Everton supporter one can only laugh at this. Suarez fouled Distin and Mirallas deliberately, and was left on the pitch. The phrase " Always the victims" comes to mind; the little respect I had for Liverpool has now vanished, bitter team, bitter manager and bitter captain.

On a light note Arsenal 7? Woah!


Funny that the stats on long passes completely counter Gerrard's comment. He must be a frustrated footballer. Should have gone to Chelsea when he had the chance some years ago.
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7-5!! Unbelievable Jeff!!!

What a match that was!

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j man wrote:7-5!! Unbelievable Jeff!!!

What a match that was!


Wasn't it just? 4-0 after 38 minutes, equalised in the 95th, lead, pegged back, lead again. Apparently it makes Reading the only team ever to have scored 5 goals in a match and still lose.

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j man wrote:7-5!! Unbelievable Jeff!!!

What a match that was!


Wasn't it just? 4-0 after 38 minutes, equalised in the 95th, lead, pegged back, lead again. Apparently it makes Reading the only team ever to have scored 5 goals in a match and still lose.

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Asphalt_World wrote:
Willthepessimist wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20135129

Um..... As an Everton supporter one can only laugh at this. Suarez fouled Distin and Mirallas deliberately, and was left on the pitch. The phrase " Always the victims" comes to mind; the little respect I had for Liverpool has now vanished, bitter team, bitter manager and bitter captain.

On a light note Arsenal 7? Woah!


Funny that the stats on long passes completely counter Gerrard's comment. He must be a frustrated footballer. Should have gone to Chelsea when he had the chance some years ago.


I think he wanted to... But he received death threats from the pool fans, I'll try and find a news article, I remember seeing one.

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Willthepessimist wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Willthepessimist wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20135129

Um..... As an Everton supporter one can only laugh at this. Suarez fouled Distin and Mirallas deliberately, and was left on the pitch. The phrase " Always the victims" comes to mind; the little respect I had for Liverpool has now vanished, bitter team, bitter manager and bitter captain.

On a light note Arsenal 7? Woah!


Funny that the stats on long passes completely counter Gerrard's comment. He must be a frustrated footballer. Should have gone to Chelsea when he had the chance some years ago.


I think he wanted to... But he received death threats from the pool fans, I'll try and find a news article, I remember seeing one.


I heard a similar rumour, although i couldn't say with any degree of certainty

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Lol, Chelsea 3-3 United

last second penalty!

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vikz22 wrote:Lol, Chelsea 3-3 United

last second penalty!

Extra Time

I thought Fergie loved more minutes anyway...
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Laura23 wrote:
vikz22 wrote:Lol, Chelsea 3-3 United

last second penalty!

Extra Time

I thought Fergie loved more minutes anyway...


i wonder how much fergie time there will be

stoppage time in extra time, 5-4 to Chelsea!

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Two games inside a week, 7 goals each...not bad value for money! Would much rather have won the league game, but at least we got some sense of revenge for Sunday. :D
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Adaemus wrote:Two games inside a week, 7 goals each...not bad value for money! Would much rather have won the league game, but at least we got some sense of revenge for Sunday. :D


Agree! Good game! I had a feeling we would score 3-3. But not in the 94th! :D
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I posted a joke on Twitter saying that the two games finished 7 7 on aggregate and that utd won on away goals. It was retweeted by @mirrorfootball and subsequently about 50 or more times since. One numpty retweeted it calling ME an idiot because Chelsea had not played away in either game!

Um, the fact one was a league game and the other a cup match clearly passed him by. He's a Chelsea fan with NO sense of humour.
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Was glad I could watch a mental cup tie without caring about the result. Sky picked the two games that gave us 21 goals. Absolutely insane.

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Capital One Cup QF Draw

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Swansea v Middlesbrough
Norwich v Aston Villa
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Sir Alex celebrated 26 years in charge of Man Utd this weekend. It's actually nearer 30 if you include all the inury time.
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Banana man, you are the funniest southampton fan i know, after my mate Lee Carver (he's a legend!!) :D

the match y'day, Citeh V Ajax was interesting

disallowed goal, and penalty decision not given on the last kick of the game, left the match as a draw! Citeh look more then certain to be out, not only in the next stage, but it appears like in the Europa cup too, unless they beat Real and Dortmund (easily said then done)


tonight, at celtic park, the big one!

Celtic V barcelona !

some facts from the FCB website
FC Barcelona have played away to Celtic FC three times. Barça lost its first match at Celtic Park in 2003/04 (1-0) and won the following two, in 2004/05 (1-3) and 2007/08 (2-3).

- Of their last 25 away matches in the Champions League, the Blaugrana have won 12 and lost 3.

- Tito Vilanova’s FC Barcelona hope to equal the record set by Louis van Gaal for the best start to a season in Club history. The team managed by the Dutchman won all six of its group stage matches.

- After Juventus and PSG lost this weekend, FC Barcelona are the only league leaders of the big European leagues that have yet to lose a match.

- Gerard Piqué, who has been named to the team for tonight’s match, hasn’t played a game for Barça since Week 1 of the Champions League, against Spartak Moscow (3-2). He picked up an injury against the Russian side that has kept him from competitive play for two months.

- Leo Messi, with 73 goals, is only two goals adrift of the record of goals scored in a calendar year set in 1958 by the legendary Brazilian, Pelé.

- In the 2007/08 season, Barça’s Argentinean scored a brace at Celtic Park (2-3).

- The last time Celtic FC lost in European play was to Atlético Madrid. The Sots lost 0-1 last season in the group stage of the Europa League.

- Celtic FC’s record at home against Spanish clubs stands at six victories, two draws and four defeats. Of the four defeats, two of them came at the hands of the Blaugrana.

- This century, only Hearts, Rangers and Aberdeen have been able to claim victory more times at Celtic Park than Barça.

- The English keeper for Celtic, Fraser Forster, was called up to the English national side in October. He’s the first Celtic player called up to the national side since Alan Thompson, who was named to the national team eight years ago.

- The referee for the match is the Dutchman Björn Kuipers. He officiated the return leg of the quarter finals last season between Barça and Milan (3-1). He also officiated the Stuttgart-Barça knock-out round match in 2009/10 (1-1) and the Barça-Kiev group stage qualification match (2-0). He has never officiated a Celtic FC match.



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Banana Man wrote:Sir Alex celebrated 26 years in charge of Man Utd this weekend. It's actually nearer 30 if you include all the inury time.

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