The Official Football Thread

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:21 pm

Anybody watching the Euro final?

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:24 pm

Of course, looks like its hopalong Ronaldo !

Clarky · Post by **Clarky** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:26 pm

Ronaldo off injured

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:29 pm

I don't think the commentators quite appreciate how much and how many spectators really dislike Ronaldo.

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:32 pm

Portugal will play for 0-0 at 90 now and hope for a miracle!

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:36 pm

flyboy10 wrote:I don't think the commentators quite appreciate how much and how many spectators really dislike Ronaldo.

I think they do but can't say! Its the contempt he shows when he doesn't get the ball or someone misses a shot. Behavior he showed towards Iceland when the drew was despicable.

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:56 pm

Portugal achieve their target, so another 30 mins, then penalties. I think Wales would have been more entertaining to be honest!!

Clarky · Post by **Clarky** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:10 pm

What a boring game

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:15 pm

Clarky wrote:What a boring game

+1

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:22 pm

Not that I'm supporting France, but I've been calling for Martial for half the game. France have controlled the ball well but not run at Portugal.

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:24 pm

So Portugal don't need Ronaldo?

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:30 pm

flyboy10 wrote:So Portugal don't need Ronaldo?

To be fair, he's done more managing on the touchline than their actual manager!

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:33 pm

Embarrassing for France !! Team that hardly won a game win the tournament.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:34 pm

Option or Prime wrote:Embarrassing for France !! Team that hardly won a game win the tournament.

I've watched every Portugal game, and nearly every game in the tournament. Where Portugal have missed out on flare, they have more than made up with shear determination.

Bit like when Greece won it.

Black_Flag_11 · Post by **Black_Flag_11** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:34 pm

It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:35 pm

Most of the best teams were on the same side of the draw. What chance would Portugal have had against Germany or Italy?

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:36 pm

Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.

Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?

Black_Flag_11 · Post by **Black_Flag_11** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:38 pm

Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.
Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?

He had no business being on the pitch talking to the referee after he had gone off IMO.

He may be one of the best players in the world but it seems to me that no one is more aware of it than himself, and he acts accordingly.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:41 pm

Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.
Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?
He had no business being on the pitch talking to the referee after he had gone off IMO.

He may be one of the best players in the world but it seems to me that no one is more aware of it than himself, and he acts accordingly.

As captain he has every right to stand at the side shouting. He wasn't red carded. He shows the passion a lot of players don't.

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:43 pm

Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.
Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?
He had no business being on the pitch talking to the referee after he had gone off IMO.

He may be one of the best players in the world but it seems to me that no one is more aware of it than himself, and he acts accordingly.
As captain he has every right to stand at the side shouting. He wasn't red carded. He shows the passion a lot of players don't.

He wasn't the captain. He surrendered that when he went off.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:46 pm

flyboy10 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.
Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?
He had no business being on the pitch talking to the referee after he had gone off IMO.

He may be one of the best players in the world but it seems to me that no one is more aware of it than himself, and he acts accordingly.
As captain he has every right to stand at the side shouting. He wasn't red carded. He shows the passion a lot of players don't.
He wasn't the captain. He surrendered that when he went off.

I think we're splitting hairs now.

Regardless, there is no rule that even stops the kit man getting up and shouting orders.

I really do think him standing their helping his team the only way he could is a total none issue.

Black_Flag_11 · Post by **Black_Flag_11** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:47 pm

Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.
Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?
He had no business being on the pitch talking to the referee after he had gone off IMO.

He may be one of the best players in the world but it seems to me that no one is more aware of it than himself, and he acts accordingly.
As captain he has every right to stand at the side shouting. He wasn't red carded. He shows the passion a lot of players don't.

On the side yes fair enough, unless there is a rule against it that I'm not aware of.

I'm pretty sure there was a point where he actually walked onto the pitch though and right to the scene of a foul. I could be wrong on that though, and IMO that wasn't on.

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:49 pm

Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.
Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?

This game, he has done little wrong. However, his behavior in the tournament has been temperamental, disrespectful and petulant. Remember they could only draw with Iceland and he refused to shake hands with anyone in their team! Any wonder he is disliked?

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:53 pm

Option or Prime wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.
Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?
This game, he has done little wrong. However, his behavior in the tournament has been temperamental, disrespectful and petulant. Remember they could only draw with Iceland and he refused to shake hands with anyone in their team! Any wonder he is disliked?

I agree, that was not a good moment for him. But then few top sportsmen are perfect throughout their entire career.

I could add that a couple asked Ronaldo via social media for a signed shirt they could auction to raise money for their baby to fly to America for life saving medical work. He sent them a signed shirt and boots. He told them to keep them as he also included a cheque for 100,000 Euros to cover all their costs and more.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:54 pm

Option or Prime wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:It would please me to see Ronaldo trip over and land on his face.

Never paid much attention to him before but I can see why he is so disliked now.
Why? What has he done wrong in this game other than get a genuine injury and then motivate his team like crazy from the sideline?
This game, he has done little wrong. However, his behavior in the tournament has been temperamental, disrespectful and petulant. Remember they could only draw with Iceland and he refused to shake hands with anyone in their team! Any wonder he is disliked?

Plus my questioning was because Black Flag had not paid much attention to him before this game, but in this game he can now see why he's so disliked. It confused me a little. He's free to have his opinion of course.

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:05 pm

It is France's silly fault, you can't play football in a stadium full of moths !!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36760453

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:08 pm

Option or Prime wrote:It is France's silly fault, you can't play football in a stadium full of moths !!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36760453

Yes I did see that. Fancy leaving the stadium lights on last night!

painless · Post by **painless** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:09 pm

Non! Merrths

Siao7 · Post by **Siao7** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:05 am

Well done Portugal, I feel miffed for France. But if they were the better team, they should have proved it on the pitch. Griezmman didn't have a great night unfortunately.

I think France got a bit disorganized by the two ref faults in quick succession, the two yellow cards just before the goal.

And Pepe, I can't stand the guy. People that act just to get the ref to penalize the other players are disgusting. I wouldn't let him play in my team

Sarhan · Post by **Sarhan** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:06 am

IMO Clattenburg's wrong decision one minute before the the goal did affect the french defences. I think they got frustrated, therefore distracted. It was a matter of minutes tha Portugal would score, and they did.

Siao7 · Post by **Siao7** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:03 pm

Sarhan wrote:IMO Clattenburg's wrong decision one minute before the the goal did affect the french defences. I think they got frustrated, therefore distracted. It was a matter of minutes tha Portugal would score, and they did.

Exactly

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:09 pm

Siao7 wrote:
Sarhan wrote:IMO Clattenburg's wrong decision one minute before the the goal did affect the french defences. I think they got frustrated, therefore distracted. It was a matter of minutes tha Portugal would score, and they did.
Exactly

If we are talking about the handball it was an incredibly easy mistake to make and was only obvious on a slow mo replay, so a bit harsh!

Siao7 · Post by **Siao7** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:19 pm

Option or Prime wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Sarhan wrote:IMO Clattenburg's wrong decision one minute before the the goal did affect the french defences. I think they got frustrated, therefore distracted. It was a matter of minutes tha Portugal would score, and they did.
Exactly
If we are talking about the handball it was an incredibly easy mistake to make and was only obvious on a slow mo replay, so a bit harsh!

I thought it was wrong at the moment I saw it, before the replay, but I can give the ref the benefit of the doubt obviously. Bad enough for me that the Portugese player didn't admit to it though. There was also the other card just moments before that. I think they really frustrated the French players

Sarhan · Post by **Sarhan** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:23 pm

Siao7 wrote:
Option or Prime wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Sarhan wrote:IMO Clattenburg's wrong decision one minute before the the goal did affect the french defences. I think they got frustrated, therefore distracted. It was a matter of minutes tha Portugal would score, and they did.
Exactly
If we are talking about the handball it was an incredibly easy mistake to make and was only obvious on a slow mo replay, so a bit harsh!
I thought it was wrong at the moment I saw it, before the replay, but I can give the ref the benefit of the doubt obviously. Bad enough for me that the Portugese player didn't admit to it though. There was also the other card just moments before that. I think they really frustrated the French players

That I would never ever expect to happen.

Sarhan · Post by **Sarhan** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:32 pm

BTW I always support the underdog, it's only with Portugal that I had a problem. Just as I got over with the presence of Pepe, a player who's behavior is usually a disgrace, thus I cant stand the guy, here comes Quaresma trying to snap Koscielny's head off, and it's all away from the ball, just to gain some seconds. Is this the Portuguese football style?

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:54 pm

Sarhan wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Option or Prime wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Sarhan wrote:IMO Clattenburg's wrong decision one minute before the the goal did affect the french defences. I think they got frustrated, therefore distracted. It was a matter of minutes tha Portugal would score, and they did.
Exactly
If we are talking about the handball it was an incredibly easy mistake to make and was only obvious on a slow mo replay, so a bit harsh!
I thought it was wrong at the moment I saw it, before the replay, but I can give the ref the benefit of the doubt obviously. Bad enough for me that the Portugese player didn't admit to it though. There was also the other card just moments before that. I think they really frustrated the French players
That I would never ever expect to happen.

If you want to win the final of the European Championships, you can't let your mind switch off simply because of one ref decision.

Sarhan · Post by **Sarhan** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:41 pm

Asphalt_World wrote:
If you want to win the final of the European Championships, you can't let your mind switch off simply because of one ref decision.

True. This is why Portugal won the match.
I also said that I would never expect the Portuguese player to admit it was his handball.
On the other hand, how far should this go? Materazzi level? I think this subject is worth the discussion.

Siao7 · Post by **Siao7** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:15 pm

Sarhan wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
If you want to win the final of the European Championships, you can't let your mind switch off simply because of one ref decision.
True. This is why Portugal won the match.
I also said that I would never expect the Portuguese player to admit it was his handball.
On the other hand, how far should this go? Materazzi level? I think this subject is worth the discussion.

Mind games and trash talking; it works in some sports, but this is just wrong. Swearing each others families to get other players upset, sneaky hits, bites, kicks, acting, flopping, etc. This is not the best advertisement for the sport.

SDLRob · Post by **SDLRob** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:57 pm

bah... how long is it until the season starts again? I wanna see Zlatan in action for us....

huggybear · Post by **huggybear** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:23 pm

SDLRob wrote:bah... how long is it until the season starts again? I wanna see Zlatan in action for us....

I think Football League starts 3 weeks time, Premiership in 4. Arsenal vs Liverpool is on the 14th of August, so definitely by then.

I personally cannot wait to see Middlesborough play. They've signed Victor Valdes, Viktor Fischer, Gaston Ramirez, Alvaro Negredo already, and are in advanced talks with Neven Subotic. That's superb work for a promoted team to have done 6 weeks before the end of the transfer window.