As for the potential bad season of flu, it's been very interesting how the social distancing and other restrictions have affected that. The flu is basically non-existent compared to previous years. I don't think I've gone so long without a cold or flu (over 12 months now).mikeyg123 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:58 amI'm quite interested in what happens over the next few years over there. Do you think that the response to Covid has caused a bit of a mind shift in the populous? The attempt at basically zero Covid has kept deaths so low I wonder what would happen if say winter 2022 there is a bad season for flu. Now people are used to the risk aversion will that apply to other transmissible diseases?oz_karter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:26 amIt was more the comments in your following post that lead me to think there was some judgement, but I could have read too much into that.mikeyg123 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:41 amSure... I'm confused that you think I've said anything different. I'm not judging the policy.
It is true that even vaccines aside Australia is dealing with the situation a different way to most. A number of countries hosted GPs without a single person vaccinated for example. It's the ultra cautious stance Australia is taking (a stance I am not passing judgement on) that makes a GP unlikely in the near future regardless of vaccines.
The points you make here are reasonable. Australia (along with NZ) absolutely have dealt with COVID differently to most countries and the strict policies on arriving travellers will make international events like the F1 GP very difficult to achieve until there is a significant change. There is chat about that happening, but until the vaccines are in people's arms it is unlikely to happen.
I'm not critical of the policy at all. Anything that reduces death so effectively certainly has a lot of merit.
It's that that I think may prevent us from having a GP in Australia for sometime. Once you've done these things when the numbers of Covid are very low it's hard to then justify not being so careful if you come to a time when far more people are dying of flu. Again, not a criticism, just speculation on the future of the Aus GP.
The flu was never really considered as a big issue before. I think the main change might be that employers will be more inclined to let people work from home if they are sick. They will have seen the effects on productivity over the past couple of years and keeping those illnesses out of offices may be a higher priority.
I do think the flu and COVID are thought of differently because COVID has a much higher death rate in people who contract it (certainly in Australia, where the flu does not kill many).
There have also been vaccines for the flu available for many years and while they have had varying effectiveness, it is seen as a bit of a personal responsibility if you chose not to get a flu shot and later caught the flu.
Australia has done really badly at procuring vaccines (put all our eggs in AstraZeneca production on-shore and dropped the ball on ordering Pfizer and Moderna vaccines early enough). So having such a low rate of vaccination means we are still in a place where perceived risks (incoming travellers) are going to be treated strictly.
Would the flu ever affect a future Australian GP? No, I don't think so.