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RunningMan wrote:He writes about the version of events as if he was there first hand. Which I doubt he was. Then he fails to cite one source or quote in his article.
He could have made the whole thing up in his head yet he titles it "The Real Story" and hasn't gotten any evidence to back up what he says.

Journalism like this is just shocking really.

mas wrote:Mattiacci and Alonso – the real story (apparently )

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/ferrari-in-2014/

That’s where things stood as Alonso and Mattiacci had their showdown meeting. Fernando suggested he would be prepared to continue on his current contract that ran until the end of ’16 – but with a few amendments: 1) Exit clauses that gave him certain windows – like Vettel’s Red Bull contract – to leave at the end of each season if he was below third in the championship at the cut-off date. 2) A veto over the choice of the other driver. 3) An option to choose technical staff. Mattiacci – a man used to having control over his employees, not forming partnerships with them or being dictated to by them – did not find any of these demands acceptable.

mas wrote:Mattiacci and Alonso – the real story (apparently )

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/ferrari-in-2014/

That’s where things stood as Alonso and Mattiacci had their showdown meeting. Fernando suggested he would be prepared to continue on his current contract that ran until the end of ’16 – but with a few amendments: 1) Exit clauses that gave him certain windows – like Vettel’s Red Bull contract – to leave at the end of each season if he was below third in the championship at the cut-off date. 2) A veto over the choice of the other driver. 3) An option to choose technical staff. Mattiacci – a man used to having control over his employees, not forming partnerships with them or being dictated to by them – did not find any of these demands acceptable.

Fernando Alonso wrote:“I have never hidden my deep admiration for Ayrton Senna, my favourite driver, my idol on track, my reference.

“I still remember, as a kid, the posters in my wardrobe, my toy cars in which I dreamed I would one day emulate Ayrton, and the kart that my father built for my older sister, and that I ended up falling in love with. That kart had the livery of one of the most legendary partnerships in the history of Formula 1, McLaren-Honda, the car that Ayrton drove, the same partnership to which I am now honoured to join, to take part in the next Formula 1 world championship.

“I am joining this project with enormous enthusiasm and determination, knowing that it may require some time to achieve the results we are aiming for, which is no problem for me.

“Over the past year I have received several offers, some of them really tempting, given the current performance of some of the teams that showed interest. But, more than a year ago, McLaren-Honda contacted me and asked me to take part, in a very active way, in the return of their partnership – a partnership that dominated the Formula 1 scene for so long.

“McLaren-Honda’s repeated and open desire, perseverance and determination in making it possible for me to join their exciting renewed partnership, have been some of the main factors that made me take this decision, not forgetting the most important factor of all: we share a common objective and expectations, and there is a very solid future, with confidence, ahead.

“I have had in-depth discussions with all the senior people at both McLaren and Honda, I have viewed their fantastic facilities in both the UK and Japan, and it is clear to me that, together, McLaren and Honda are in the process of beginning what is sure to be a long and successful partnership. And I intend to give 100% effort to help make it exactly that.

“Finally, I want to thank the persistence of those who have fought so hard for this to come true. I will do everything in my power to deliver for everyone and for our team, based on a formula that has always worked for me: effort, sacrifice, perseverance and faith.

“We have time, we have hopes and we have the necessary resources. Let the legend return: that is our challenge.”

mcdo wrote:That photo.

I would have bet a year's wages that I would never see that photo while Alonso was still an F1 driver. This is going to take a bit of readjusting.

PrancingRocket_ wrote:

mcdo wrote:That photo.

I would have bet a year's wages that I would never see that photo while Alonso was still an F1 driver. This is going to take a bit of readjusting.

Try re-adjusting to this...



^ Never thought i'd see that

swillis wrote:All I have to say is, is anyone else really bloody stoked they don't have to be a Ferrari fan anymore?

Tiffosi used to give me the evil eye when I said I was a fan but made it apparent I was a Nando fan first and foremost.

A2jdl wrote:

swillis wrote:All I have to say is, is anyone else really bloody stoked they don't have to be a Ferrari fan anymore?

Tiffosi used to give me the evil eye when I said I was a fan but made it apparent I was a Nando fan first and foremost.

Just got to decide if i burn the shirt or try and sell it now

Fiki wrote:Slightly off-topic, but it might amuse Alonso fans to see this video, more specifically 3:04. Enjoy! (Also the rest of the film, it's worth it.)

nixxxon wrote:

Fiki wrote:Slightly off-topic, but it might amuse Alonso fans to see this video, more specifically 3:04. Enjoy! (Also the rest of the film, it's worth it.)

And the video is...?

swillis wrote:All I have to say is, is anyone else really bloody stoked they don't have to be a Ferrari fan anymore?

Tiffosi used to give me the evil eye when I said I was a fan but made it apparent I was a Nando fan first and foremost.

mcdo wrote:

swillis wrote:All I have to say is, is anyone else really bloody stoked they don't have to be a Ferrari fan anymore?

Tiffosi used to give me the evil eye when I said I was a fan but made it apparent I was a Nando fan first and foremost.

Yeah I bought a red shirt because of Fernando. I'm dusting off my 2007 McLaren shirt now but I'm finding this transition worse to be honest

RunningMan wrote:

mcdo wrote:

swillis wrote:All I have to say is, is anyone else really bloody stoked they don't have to be a Ferrari fan anymore?

Tiffosi used to give me the evil eye when I said I was a fan but made it apparent I was a Nando fan first and foremost.

Yeah I bought a red shirt because of Fernando. I'm dusting off my 2007 McLaren shirt now but I'm finding this transition worse to be honest

Going from anything to red is alot harder than going from red to anything


If that made any sense.

12:53
Meanwhile, down at McLaren, Fernando Alonso has just had his lunch in the McLaren motorhome. To his absolute credit, he was then more than happy to pose for the many fans who had been camped outside for pictures. Trust us, it took him quite a while to get through all of them...

F1Tyrant wrote:Alonso should seriously consider retirement. Everything he's touched since 2006 has left him bitterly disappointed. That said, I don't want to see Fernando go out like his career started, struggling and failing to get into the points...

mcdo wrote:That's a bizarre opinion

F1Tyrant wrote:Do you see McLaren-Honda delivering Alonso the title? I was hopeful but even a 2017 title bid looks too soon for McLaren. Alonso is in F1 for wins and titles so if those are not available, why prolong his career driving an unreliable piece of crap.

F1Tyrant wrote:

mcdo wrote:That's a bizarre opinion

Do you see McLaren-Honda delivering Alonso the title? I was hopeful but even a 2017 title bid looks too soon for McLaren. Alonso is in F1 for wins and titles so if those are not available, why prolong his career driving an unreliable piece of crap.

chican wrote:How's that this thread is so hard to find? Nice race, terrible reliability.

F1Tyrant wrote:Alonso should seriously consider retirement. Everything he's touched since 2006 has left him bitterly disappointed. That said, I don't want to see Fernando go out like his career started, struggling and failing to get into the points...

mas wrote:Alonso still trying to convince himself it was a good move ...

Fernando Alonso says 'nothing has changed' at Ferrari since he left

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24184 ... ce-he-left

“l am very fully motivated. If we can be competitive soon it will taste sweet because we have started from zero and I think we will get points in Monaco,” he predicted. “From now on we will be on the limit for tenth places for the next two or three races. Hopefully after Canada and Austria we will be more secure – seventh l hope. That is the target. "In the final part of the championship, even if l am optimistic, hopefully we will be close to the podium.” According to Alonso, McLaren’s race simulations predicted he was on course to finish ninth in Sunday’s race at the Circuit de Catalunya before a freak occurrences resulted in his brakes spectacularly overheating

nixxxon wrote:

mas wrote:Alonso still trying to convince himself it was a good move ...

Fernando Alonso says 'nothing has changed' at Ferrari since he left

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24184 ... ce-he-left

“l am very fully motivated. If we can be competitive soon it will taste sweet because we have started from zero and I think we will get points in Monaco,” he predicted. “From now on we will be on the limit for tenth places for the next two or three races. Hopefully after Canada and Austria we will be more secure – seventh l hope. That is the target. "In the final part of the championship, even if l am optimistic, hopefully we will be close to the podium.” According to Alonso, McLaren’s race simulations predicted he was on course to finish ninth in Sunday’s race at the Circuit de Catalunya before a freak occurrences resulted in his brakes spectacularly overheating

He's right.
Just look at Ferrari, first useless improvement bits of the season came in Barcelona. Ferrari many times produces car updates that dont work and thats one of the reasons why he left. They struggle to develop in-season.
And they will always finish second behind mercedes... so he doesnt care really if he finishes 3rd or 5th or 8th as long as he doesnt win.

chican wrote:Yep, Ferrari may be better than last year but, it isn't any different from 2010, 2012 or 2013. I hope McLaren ends up sorting things out sonner than later.

madchild wrote:First I want to say that I am a fan of Fernando, but his enthusiasm for Honda will wane if they continue to struggle. He may not regret leaving Ferrari right now, but if McLaren's struggles continue into next season, I believe his regrets will turn elsewhere.