The Official Fernando Alonso thread

swillis · Post by **swillis** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:38 pm

Hi all, just a place to discuss that greatest grand prix driver of all time (open to debate, but my fingers are in my ears, my eyes are shut and I'm making loud noises so I can't hear you).

2012: Holding my breathe a lot at the moment. Hopefully as testing winds up and the season starts it will turn in to relief, instead of panic.

Khazrak134 · Post by **Khazrak134** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:43 pm

we all know that Fernando is probably the one person to bring Ferrari to the top again

Ayrton Senna F1 Fan · Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:48 am

Been a Fernando fan for a long time now. Really hope he wins a WDC in a Ferrari.

callMEcrazy · Post by **callMEcrazy** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:00 pm

There's talk that the teams could be bunched up very close this year, closer than last year anyway. I hope its true. Ferrari doesn't look as if its gonna be that good but if the gaps between teams are small maybe there's hope yet for Alonso talking his 3rd WDC. I was heartbroken when he didn't win it in 2010. He is too good to just be double world champion.

Prost is my favorite among drivers whom I've never seen live. I find many similarities between him and Alonso and I'd like Alonso to reach 4 championships like him.

Centauri · Post by **Centauri** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:29 pm

callMEcrazy wrote:I was heartbroken when he didn't win it in 2010. He is too good to just be double world champion.

I have only recently become an Alonso 'fan', although I've always had respect for him as a driver, even if he has been involved in a lot of controversy in his career.

He is definitely better than a mere double champion and deserves to win the title again. After it became apparent in Abu Dhabi in 2010 that Webber was out of the frame for the title, I was rooting heavily for Alonso, but we all know how that turned out.

The Ferrari doesn't look stellar this year but hopefully Alonso, yet again, can make the difference.

POBRatings · Post by **POBRatings** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:41 pm

As Centauri says, Alonso is a driver who can make a difference. What he did in 2008-9 with the slow Renault was outstanding, just as were his perfromances for Ferrari in 2010-2011. Driver efforts are always under-rated when they are in off-pace cars; that is the real test of driver quality. As Lauda wrote in the latest F1 Racing magazine (March 2012), when the car is working well, the driver and team have it so much easier, they build on each other's momentum. All media and fan attention highlights the winners: they appear in bright technicolor, the rest are in black-and-white, like Rosberg and Kovalainen, imo the past few years.

thehabsonice · Post by **thehabsonice** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:44 pm

Khazrak134 wrote:we all know that Fernando is probably the one person to bring Ferrari to the top again

It will never happen with Alonso, Kimi was the only driver capable of doing so after schumi! The only other driver capable of doing so on the grid would probably be Vettel

HamsterHuey · Post by **HamsterHuey** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:07 pm

thehabsonice wrote:
Khazrak134 wrote:we all know that Fernando is probably the one person to bring Ferrari to the top again

It will never happen with Alonso, Kimi was the only driver capable of doing so after schumi! The only other driver capable of doing so on the grid would probably be Vettel

Wow, how sad are you. After these gems in another thread:

thehabsonice wrote:I hope they do terribly ALonso does NOT deserve a good car. We will see his as***** behavior come out when his car isn't competitive and he'll try to ruin his team mate.

thehabsonice wrote:it's not that I don't like him, as a wise man said a while ago I ''DESPISE HIM''

you decide to come into the Fernando Alonso thread just to troll? It's a pity that this forum upgrade didn't bring along the option to ignore users.

hannaw · Post by **hannaw** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:54 pm

HamsterHuey wrote:
thehabsonice wrote:
Khazrak134 wrote:we all know that Fernando is probably the one person to bring Ferrari to the top again

It will never happen with Alonso, Kimi was the only driver capable of doing so after schumi! The only other driver capable of doing so on the grid would probably be Vettel

Wow, how sad are you. After these gems in another thread:
thehabsonice wrote:I hope they do terribly ALonso does NOT deserve a good car. We will see his as***** behavior come out when his car isn't competitive and he'll try to ruin his team mate.

thehabsonice wrote:it's not that I don't like him, as a wise man said a while ago I ''DESPISE HIM''

you decide to come into the Fernando Alonso thread just to troll? It's a pity that this forum upgrade didn't bring along the option to ignore users.

It is a sad day when people only bash other people. :-((

You can at least respect the person for what he achieved. Last time I checked F1 was not a personality contest. I do not favour all the drivers and have favourites and Alonso just happen to be one of them. I hope he and Ferrari can pull something out of the hat this year, but I will still support them regardless. :nod:

thehabsonice · Post by **thehabsonice** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:11 pm

Okay sorry. In all honesty I don't think he can bring much help ''performance wise'' to ferrari.

morgana · Post by **morgana** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:56 pm

For those of you who are into Twitter, guess who joined it about two hours ago...

http://yfrog.com/user/alo_oficial/profile

peterh · Post by **peterh** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:30 pm

morgana wrote:For those of you who are into Twitter, guess who joined it about two hours ago...

http://yfrog.com/user/alo_oficial/profile

Fernando posted a nice video. And he got a haircut. Just thought i should mention it...

morgana · Post by **morgana** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:40 pm

peterh wrote:
morgana wrote:For those of you who are into Twitter, guess who joined it about two hours ago...

http://yfrog.com/user/alo_oficial/profile

Fernando posted a nice video. And he got a haircut. Just thought i should mention it...

About time!

ToughGuy · Post by **ToughGuy** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:44 pm

swillis wrote:Hi all, just a place to discuss that greatest grand prix driver of all time (open to debate, but my fingers are in my ears, my eyes are shut and I'm making loud noises so I can't hear you).

2012: Holding my breathe a lot at the moment. Hopefully as testing winds up and the season starts it will turn in to relief, instead of panic.

Greatest grand Prize driver of all time....
You want to be careful Pf1mod dont merge this with the Michael Schumacher thread..

abulafia F1 · Post by **abulafia F1** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:32 pm

A few thoughts on Fernando's driving style... http://abulafiaf1.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/driving-styles-part-a-an-introduction-and-fernando-alonso/

Gintynm · Post by **Gintynm** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:37 pm

I think he is without a doubt the fastest driver on the grid. He just gets struck with bad luck/bad cars :frown:

Still though, he did still manage to get a win last year!

thehabsonice · Post by **thehabsonice** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:23 am

Gintynm wrote:I think he is without a doubt the fastest driver on the grid. He just gets struck with bad luck/bad cars Still though, he did still manage to get a win last year!

How is he the fastest driver on the grid if his ROOKIE team mate beat him in 2007 with the same car

Lewis Hamilton is def. better now than he was in 2007 and Button beat Lewis, therefore we def know that we have a minimum of 2 drivers faster than Alonso, not to mention Kimi, Vettel, Webber, Schumacher, Roseberg, Kobayashi, are ALL FASTER than him.

2HEKTK · Post by **2HEKTK** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:49 am

thehabsonice wrote:
Gintynm wrote:I think he is without a doubt the fastest driver on the grid. He just gets struck with bad luck/bad cars Still though, he did still manage to get a win last year!

How is he the fastest driver on the grid if his ROOKIE team mate beat him in 2007 with the same car

Lewis Hamilton is def. better now than he was in 2007 and Button beat Lewis, therefore we def know that we have a minimum of 2 drivers faster than Alonso, not to mention Kimi, Vettel, Webber, Schumacher, Roseberg, Kobayashi, are ALL FASTER than him.

Let's not get carried away! The sad thing is your blind love for a driver who hasn't proved himself in F1 machinery for over 2 years! Not to mention he got beaten by Massa who Alonso is 1 season away from putting into retirement!

Good luck to Fernando this year, it doesn't sound like the car is up to it but his motivation can never be questioned! In my opinion he is the most complete driver on the grid, not the fastest as he admits to but with a capable car for the whole season he is easily a match for the likes of Vettel, Button and Hamilton.

thehabsonice · Post by **thehabsonice** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:11 am

2HEKTK wrote:
thehabsonice wrote:
Gintynm wrote:I think he is without a doubt the fastest driver on the grid. He just gets struck with bad luck/bad cars Still though, he did still manage to get a win last year!

How is he the fastest driver on the grid if his ROOKIE team mate beat him in 2007 with the same car

Lewis Hamilton is def. better now than he was in 2007 and Button beat Lewis, therefore we def know that we have a minimum of 2 drivers faster than Alonso, not to mention Kimi, Vettel, Webber, Schumacher, Roseberg, Kobayashi, are ALL FASTER than him.

Let's not get carried away! The sad thing is your blind love for a driver who hasn't proved himself in F1 machinery for over 2 years! Not to mention he got beaten by Massa who Alonso is 1 season away from putting into retirement!

Good luck to Fernando this year, it doesn't sound like the car is up to it but his motivation can never be questioned! In my opinion he is the most complete driver on the grid, not the fastest as he admits to but with a capable car for the whole season he is easily a match for the likes of Vettel, Button and Hamilton.

He did get beat by massa, because the team was fully behind massa. As we all already know that! Fernando is complete if being complete is being an arrogant

Edited by mod: Please review the rules: foul language is not accepted in the forum.

2HEKTK · Post by **2HEKTK** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:13 am

thehabsonice wrote:
2HEKTK wrote:
thehabsonice wrote:
Gintynm wrote:I think he is without a doubt the fastest driver on the grid. He just gets struck with bad luck/bad cars Still though, he did still manage to get a win last year!

How is he the fastest driver on the grid if his ROOKIE team mate beat him in 2007 with the same car

Lewis Hamilton is def. better now than he was in 2007 and Button beat Lewis, therefore we def know that we have a minimum of 2 drivers faster than Alonso, not to mention Kimi, Vettel, Webber, Schumacher, Roseberg, Kobayashi, are ALL FASTER than him.

Let's not get carried away! The sad thing is your blind love for a driver who hasn't proved himself in F1 machinery for over 2 years! Not to mention he got beaten by Massa who Alonso is 1 season away from putting into retirement!

Good luck to Fernando this year, it doesn't sound like the car is up to it but his motivation can never be questioned! In my opinion he is the most complete driver on the grid, not the fastest as he admits to but with a capable car for the whole season he is easily a match for the likes of Vettel, Button and Hamilton.

He did get beat by massa, because the team was fully behind massa. As we all already know that! Fernando is complete if being complete is being an arrogant s.o.B****

I'm not going to debate with you, it sounds like your 12 years old! Simply put 1 x WDC vs 2 x WDC, history says it all!

thehabsonice · Post by **thehabsonice** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:15 am

2HEKTK wrote:
thehabsonice wrote:
2HEKTK wrote:
thehabsonice wrote:
Gintynm wrote:I think he is without a doubt the fastest driver on the grid. He just gets struck with bad luck/bad cars Still though, he did still manage to get a win last year!

How is he the fastest driver on the grid if his ROOKIE team mate beat him in 2007 with the same car

Lewis Hamilton is def. better now than he was in 2007 and Button beat Lewis, therefore we def know that we have a minimum of 2 drivers faster than Alonso, not to mention Kimi, Vettel, Webber, Schumacher, Roseberg, Kobayashi, are ALL FASTER than him.

Let's not get carried away! The sad thing is your blind love for a driver who hasn't proved himself in F1 machinery for over 2 years! Not to mention he got beaten by Massa who Alonso is 1 season away from putting into retirement!

Good luck to Fernando this year, it doesn't sound like the car is up to it but his motivation can never be questioned! In my opinion he is the most complete driver on the grid, not the fastest as he admits to but with a capable car for the whole season he is easily a match for the likes of Vettel, Button and Hamilton.

He did get beat by massa, because the team was fully behind massa. As we all already know that! Fernando is complete if being complete is being an arrogant s.o.B****

I'm not going to debate with you, it sounds like your 12 years old! Simply put 1 x WDC vs 2 x WDC, history says it all!

very wrong, alonso obtained those 2 WDC by LUCK. Not to mention that we can't compare WDC's because it's not fair to compare drivers unless they have the same machinery! Scumi is def. not the best driver on the grid I think we can angry on that. There is no debate to be had, Alonso is the most over rated driver of the history of formula 1.

funkymonkey · Post by **funkymonkey** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:02 am

thehabsonice wrote:
very wrong, alonso obtained those 2 WDC by LUCK. Not to mention that we can't compare WDC's because it's not fair to compare drivers unless they have the same machinery! Scumi is def. not the best driver on the grid I think we can angry on that. There is no debate to be had, Alonso is the most over rated driver of the history of formula 1.

Thanks for the laugh buddy!
I was starting to miss hackattack.

abulafia F1 · Post by **abulafia F1** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:08 am

thehabsonice wrote:very wrong, alonso obtained those 2 WDC by LUCK. Not to mention that we can't compare WDC's because it's not fair to compare drivers unless they have the same machinery! Scumi is def. not the best driver on the grid I think we can angry on that. There is no debate to be had, Alonso is the most over rated driver of the history of formula 1.

You have a very narrow view of the sport - that's the best I can say, I'm afraid.

Mod_Yellow · Post by **Mod_Yellow** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:08 am

Thehabsonice, there is a fine line between harshly attacking a driver you dislike and openly trolling. Please make sure that you stay on the correct side of that line so that we don't have to intervene.

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Way Too Fast · Post by **Way Too Fast** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:31 pm

Hey Alonso fans! Fernando joined twitter just over 1 day ago and has over 87,000 followers already.He tells us that he has arrived in Melbourne after 29 hour journey.
Good luck to Alonso this year

Alonso's Twitter page https://twitter.com/#!/alo_oficial

superkaas · Post by **superkaas** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:27 pm

Alonso is certainly not overrated. I used to dislike Alonso as he used to give my preferred driver a hard time. But currently I have to admit that he does have the capability to produce magic in a less than magic car. I think it's great having so many different characters of great drivers sharing the same piece of tarmac. I still hope Kimi puts a couple past him though :nod:

Spring21 · Post by **Spring21** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:28 am

Well! I thought I better join this thread seeing as it is the "Official" Fernando Alonso thread

It was Alonso who brought the excitement back to F1 when a certain Mr Schumacher was winning day in, day out, F1 was incredibly boring and worse still, it was predictably boring, that is until, the very nice Sn Alonso weaved his voodoo

Alonso to Mclaren I think we are all agreed was a huge mistake for Fernando and infighting cost him his 3rd WDC, to finish equal on points with the whole Mclaren operation seemingly against him was quite a spectacular feat in itself and I do wonder how others drivers would have coped given the same environmental circumstances.

Alonso showed he could face the cruel winds that were rallied against him, he was then the existing WDC but was treated unfairly imho but it is time to move on from that and concentrate on what this year can bring. A third WDC? fingers crossed, personally I think if Vettell wins again and convincingly so, it will be a return to the schuey era and for that reason I will get behind anyone but SV, hopefully it will be Alonso taking the fight to Red Bull, but I have no qualms about supporting Button or Hamilton if they are the ones to take away the Red Bull dominance.

Back on topic!! Alonso is just brill.

morgana · Post by **morgana** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:51 pm

Not just Twitter, Facebook too - although it seems he posts the same info on both

http://www.facebook.com/FernandoAlonsoOficial

Anyway, just a few hours to start the season - good luck to FA!

sgt.hartman · Post by **sgt.hartman** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:54 pm

thehabsonice wrote:very wrong, alonso obtained those 2 WDC by LUCK. Not to mention that we can't compare WDC's because it's not fair to compare drivers unless they have the same machinery! Scumi is def. not the best driver on the grid I think we can angry on that. There is no debate to be had, Alonso is the most over rated driver of the history of formula 1.

A more ironic typo you could have not made.

ToughGuy · Post by **ToughGuy** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:31 am

man, how cool a look is that :thumbup:

hand bit wired though

babararacucudada · Post by **babararacucudada** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:46 am

Good drive to get fifth from 12th after a poor qualifying.
Fernando is really earning his money, but he must be worried as the team seem to have been getting gradually worse ever since he joined them.

Massa shows how bad the car is, which also shows how good Fernando is.

morgana · Post by **morgana** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:53 pm

babararacucudada wrote:Good drive to get fifth from 12th after a poor qualifying.
Fernando is really earning his money, but he must be worried as the team seem to have been getting gradually worse ever since he joined them.

Massa shows how bad the car is, which also shows how good Fernando is.

I think that Massa made a mistake with the setup, I cannot believe that all the difference between him and Alonso is just down to driving skills.

But yes, Alonso did great yesterday. And to quote Brundle, he showed that "He could drive a wheelie bin with one wheel missing and still be fast. He just never gives up, that boy" - nice comment, btw! :nod:

swillis · Post by **swillis** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:26 pm

Missed the race, was in the land of nod. Bloody great result though

FORZA FERNANDO

250mm · Post by **250mm** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:06 am

swillis wrote:Missed the race, was in the land of nod. Bloody great result though FORZA FERNANDO

Indeed, without a doubt the drive of the year so far, Zo is on fire ! Nice cushion in the Championship points as well !

DennyDifferent · Post by **DennyDifferent** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:49 pm

Fantastic result for Alonso and yet another demonstration that when chaos reigns, this guy will come out on top. I fully expect Alonso to win this years WDC. He is without doubt the best driver in F1 right now.

bbobeckyj · Post by **bbobeckyj** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:08 pm

Where are the Alonso fans? He's leading the WDC standings, gets pole and not one post?
I'm not an Alonso fan but I am impressed by the man and what he's achieved. He needs only another four successive points finishes to equal Schumacher's record of 24, and he's been on the podium for 13 of those.

RunningMan · Post by **RunningMan** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:09 pm

Not much to discuss really that isn't being discussed in other threads. He tends to keep his head down and get on with it really.

joeypharris · Post by **joeypharris** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:19 pm

DennyDifferent wrote:Fantastic result for Alonso and yet another demonstration that when chaos reigns, this guy will come out on top. I fully expect Alonso to win this years WDC. He is without doubt the best driver in F1 right now.

Agree, from a Ham fan. He is always there regardless of what is thrown at him.

Something tells me, his name is etched on this years title somehow, and thus far, deservedly so......

crespo · Post by **crespo** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:37 pm

Awesome Alonso once again! As a fellow Asturian, I couldn't be prouder. Forza!

Jinx · Post by **Jinx** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:43 pm

joeypharris wrote:
DennyDifferent wrote:Fantastic result for Alonso and yet another demonstration that when chaos reigns, this guy will come out on top. I fully expect Alonso to win this years WDC. He is without doubt the best driver in F1 right now.

Agree, from a Ham fan. He is always there regardless of what is thrown at him.

Something tells me, his name is etched on this years title somehow, and thus far, deservedly so......

I totally concur - this is Alonso's year. I've been saying it since Malaysia...