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Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:18 am
by mikeyg123
pokerman wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:33 pm
Exediron wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:02 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:01 pm
Schermerhorn wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:18 am
tootsie323 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:00 am
So, in short - he has demonstrated his talent in a lesser car.

Like Vettel did in Monza 2008?
I'm not sure what you are relating this to exactly but you do know that Vettel's teammate qualified 4th for that race.
He qualified fourth, but he was -0.890s behind Vettel. If Vettel had done what Bourdais did, no one would have considered it an impressive drive that proved his ability. Qualifying fourth in a midfield car isn't (or wasn't, in that era) some huge feat. Qualifying on pole and winning is.
First of all you don't know the fuel loads, secondly it's all about the myth of a car that qualifies 1st and 4th is somehow a midfield car that's the only issue.
It was a midfield car. The three teams with better cars - McLaren, Ferrari and BMW just did a really bad job in qualifying. In the race they came through to finish in 5 of the remaining 7 point scoring places. Vettel did enough to control the race and crucially got the strategy right.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:45 am
by tootsie323
Schermerhorn wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:18 am
tootsie323 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:00 am
So, in short - he has demonstrated his talent in a lesser car.
Like Vettel did in Monza 2008?
Yes - perfect example of Vettel showcasing his talent. If the Red Bull (senior) team were not already decided on whether to promote him, that almost surely nailed it.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:15 pm
by pokerman
Exediron wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:27 am
pokerman wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:33 pm
Exediron wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:02 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:01 pm
Schermerhorn wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:18 am



Like Vettel did in Monza 2008?
I'm not sure what you are relating this to exactly but you do know that Vettel's teammate qualified 4th for that race.
He qualified fourth, but he was -0.890s behind Vettel. If Vettel had done what Bourdais did, no one would have considered it an impressive drive that proved his ability. Qualifying fourth in a midfield car isn't (or wasn't, in that era) some huge feat. Qualifying on pole and winning is.
First of all you don't know the fuel loads, secondly it's all about the myth of a car that qualifies 1st and 4th is somehow a midfield car that's the only issue.
It was a midfield car. Racing Point qualified 1st and 3rd in Turkey last year; are you saying that wasn't a midfield car?

I'm not Vettel's biggest supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but the 2008 Toro Rosso was a weaker car than anything Hamilton ever took a win in. Does that somehow make Vettel a better driver? Heck no. Maybe Hamilton could have won in that car - it's even pretty likely he could have. But the closest he's come to a midfield car in his career was the first half of 2009, and he didn't win until that car was dramatically improved to a level beyond the 2008 Toro Rosso.
I'm saying that on the day it didn't perform like a midfield car because of the wet conditions similar like you say with Racing Point, even then Racing Point were acknowledged to have the third best car last year.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:41 pm
by pokerman
KingVoid wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:14 am
I highly doubt that the 9 tenths gap between Vettel and Bourdais
had much to do with fuel loads if anything at all, that’s just desperate reaching.

Anyway, the fastest car that weekend was McLaren, but Kovalainen simply couldn’t keep up with Vettel while Hamilton had his issues in qualifying (that was partially his own fault).
Bourdais was a tenth slower in Q1, 3 tenths slower in Q2, and for Q3 they put more fuel in his car, through the sessions Bourdais was 5th, 5th and 4th, all the sessions were wet.

He stalled at the start and went a lap down from which any further comparison ended, Bourdais got sacked half way through the middle of the following season after giving second best to rookie Buemi.

On the day the car was up there with the best cars that in itself of course shouldn't take anything away from Vettel's win, it's just the idea that he won in a midfield car, midfield team yes, but midfield car that on the day was as good as any car out there as witnessed by the performance of his unrated teammate.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:45 pm
by Schermerhorn
mikeyg123 wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:20 pm
Nothing annoys me more (in an F1 context) than people trying to devalue Vettel's Monza win. It's absurdly disingenuous.

And I'm one of Vettel's harshest critics.
Yup, agreed. Despite Vettel's sad decline, nothing can take away that feat, it was truly heroic and it really irks me that people try and belittle it.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:52 pm
by Schermerhorn
pokerman wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:01 pm
Schermerhorn wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:18 am
tootsie323 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:00 am
So, in short - he has demonstrated his talent in a lesser car.

Like Vettel did in Monza 2008?
I'm not sure what you are relating this to exactly but you do know that Vettel's teammate qualified 4th for that race.

Yes, so what? Bottas frequently out-qualifies Hamilton and gets his backside handed to him the next day.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:43 pm
by KingVoid
pokerman wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:41 pm
KingVoid wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:14 am
I highly doubt that the 9 tenths gap between Vettel and Bourdais
had much to do with fuel loads if anything at all, that’s just desperate reaching.

Anyway, the fastest car that weekend was McLaren, but Kovalainen simply couldn’t keep up with Vettel while Hamilton had his issues in qualifying (that was partially his own fault).
Bourdais was a tenth slower in Q1, 3 tenths slower in Q2, and for Q3 they put more fuel in his car, through the sessions Bourdais was 5th, 5th and 4th, all the sessions were wet.
Bottas was also reasonably close to Hamilton throughout Monza 2017 qualifying, until the final part of Q3 where Hamilton put in a flier. Maybe that’s why the gap between Vettel and Bourdais increased in the final part of Q3? Vettel put in a stonking lap? Vettel evidently wasn’t running low on fuel as we saw the following day.
On the day the car was up there with the best cars
It was inferior to McLaren

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:28 am
by tootsie323
According to F1 Bourdais only pitted three laps later than Vettel - I'm not sure that this accounts for the gap in quali.
Whether or not the Torro Rosso was optimised for the conditions, it was still a stand-out performance from Vettel in what was not a front-running car.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:41 am
by TheGiantHogweed
Funny how the last 15 posts or so in the official Hamilton thread seem to be arguing about how good Vettel was in a race 13 years ago. Some being relevant though and implying it isn't really worth bringing up this far.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:43 pm
by pokerman
Schermerhorn wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:52 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:01 pm
Schermerhorn wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:18 am
tootsie323 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:00 am
So, in short - he has demonstrated his talent in a lesser car.

Like Vettel did in Monza 2008?
I'm not sure what you are relating this to exactly but you do know that Vettel's teammate qualified 4th for that race.

Yes, so what? Bottas frequently out-qualifies Hamilton and gets his backside handed to him the next day.
I'm not sure what relevance that has given that Bourdais stalled on the grid and was not the point I was making anyway.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:47 pm
by pokerman
KingVoid wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:43 pm
pokerman wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:41 pm
KingVoid wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:14 am
I highly doubt that the 9 tenths gap between Vettel and Bourdais
had much to do with fuel loads if anything at all, that’s just desperate reaching.

Anyway, the fastest car that weekend was McLaren, but Kovalainen simply couldn’t keep up with Vettel while Hamilton had his issues in qualifying (that was partially his own fault).
Bourdais was a tenth slower in Q1, 3 tenths slower in Q2, and for Q3 they put more fuel in his car, through the sessions Bourdais was 5th, 5th and 4th, all the sessions were wet.
Bottas was also reasonably close to Hamilton throughout Monza 2017 qualifying, until the final part of Q3 where Hamilton put in a flier. Maybe that’s why the gap between Vettel and Bourdais increased in the final part of Q3? Vettel put in a stonking lap? Vettel evidently wasn’t running low on fuel as we saw the following day.
On the day the car was up there with the best cars
It was inferior to McLaren
I've already seen that the post below yours refutes what you said, I would also say that you have little proof for the McLaren being quicker.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:49 pm
by pokerman
tootsie323 wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:28 am
According to F1 Bourdais only pitted three laps later than Vettel - I'm not sure that this accounts for the gap in quali.
Whether or not the Torro Rosso was optimised for the conditions, it was still a stand-out performance from Vettel in what was not a front-running car.
Which is about 3 tenths, I was only making the point that the 8/9 tenths gap wasn't the true gap.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:06 am
by Johnson
KingVoid wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:43 pm
pokerman wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:41 pm
KingVoid wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:14 am
I highly doubt that the 9 tenths gap between Vettel and Bourdais
had much to do with fuel loads if anything at all, that’s just desperate reaching.

Anyway, the fastest car that weekend was McLaren, but Kovalainen simply couldn’t keep up with Vettel while Hamilton had his issues in qualifying (that was partially his own fault).
Bourdais was a tenth slower in Q1, 3 tenths slower in Q2, and for Q3 they put more fuel in his car, through the sessions Bourdais was 5th, 5th and 4th, all the sessions were wet.
Bottas was also reasonably close to Hamilton throughout Monza 2017 qualifying, until the final part of Q3 where Hamilton put in a flier. Maybe that’s why the gap between Vettel and Bourdais increased in the final part of Q3? Vettel put in a stonking lap? Vettel evidently wasn’t running low on fuel as we saw the following day.
On the day the car was up there with the best cars
It was inferior to McLaren
Bottas made big errors on his runs in Q3 at Monza 2017, thats why he was so far back.

The fact Bourdais, an average driver, had the pace to put the car 4th tells you all you need to know about the TR. Forget about Vettel.

Not sure if anybody has mentioned it. The TR was so quick that weekend because of the brakes. They had new brakes (different to Red Bull) and they kept the inters alive and got temperature immediately, TR was massively surprised at the cars pace themselves. This information came out a couple of years ago in an interview with Vettels race engineer. He also said they had the best car that day. Not sure I agree, but it was up there with Mclaren for race day and with Hamilton starting way down and Heikki being Heikki he had the best opportunity.

It was just one of those freak weekends like Point Racing in Turkey 2020 and Force India at Spa in 2009. Stroll's Turkey was an exact replica of Vettels Monza 2008 (until he got front wing damage).

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:14 pm
by KingVoid
pokerman wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:47 pm
I've already seen that the post below yours refutes what you said, I would also say that you have little proof for the McLaren being quicker.
Kovalainen’s qualifying pace, and Hamilton’s race pace.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 4:10 pm
by Invade
pokerman wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 3:57 pm


I think Hamilton is an unusual variety that simply keeps getting better with age, I guess it belies just how immature he was in the first part of his F1 career.

Yeh it would appear that Hamilton is at his peak aged 36. He's also at peak confidence, peak 'bossness'. He knows he owns the dynamic in his own team and he feels empowered. He has a swagger about him.

We'll see if Verstappen can strip him of that swagger. It might be the intangible that carries Hamilton over the line this season.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:38 pm
by JN23
‘I’ve never really been a driver that sticks it on pole’ :lol:

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 6:00 pm
by Invade
Is it just me or is Hamilton's race pace in Spain ridiculously strong? He was in the grooves of all grooves there in 2020 and he kicked his race pace into gear there in 2018 in emphatic fashion. Now another masterclass of race pace and adaptability of driving lines and race management in 2021.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 6:14 pm
by Johnson
Hamilton on the form of his life, 8 wins in the last 10 races entered.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 6:42 pm
by F1Tyrant
Invade wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 6:00 pm
Is it just me or is Hamilton's race pace in Spain ridiculously strong? He was in the grooves of all grooves there in 2020 and he kicked his race pace into gear there in 2018 in emphatic fashion. Now another masterclass of race pace and adaptability of driving lines and race management in 2021.
Sir Lewis' comments after qualifying were foreboding. He set the car up with a very understeery front to preserve the tyres. I reckon it's what allowed him to stay within two seconds of Verstappen.
Johnson wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 6:14 pm
Hamilton on the form of his life, 8 wins in the last 10 races entered.
It's 14 in 19 as well! Crazy form!

It'd be nice for him to clinch his 100th win at Silverstone to take the checkered flag on the Hamilton Straight!

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:56 pm
by Johnson
Yes from the middle of 2018 and the infamous German GP "End of Vettel" , 52 races and..

1st - 33
2nd- 7
3rd- 5
4th - 3
5th - 1
7th - 2
9th - 1

Every race in the points

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:20 pm
by Exediron
Johnson wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 8:56 pm
Yes from the middle of 2018 and the infamous German GP "End of Vettel" , 52 races and..

1st - 33
2nd- 7
3rd- 5
4th - 3
5th - 1
7th - 2
9th - 1

Every race in the points
I don't think every race being in the points is impressive considering the car he's driving. The bit at the top, however, is very impressive.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:25 pm
by Johnson
Impressive from Mercedes reliability wise, 1 mechanical race DNF since Malaysia 2016. That being Austria 2018.

Even including qualifying breakdowns he has had 3 issues in 5 years. Compared to the 6 issues in a 14 race period of 2016.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:38 pm
by JN23
Johnson wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:25 pm
Impressive from Mercedes reliability wise, 1 mechanical race DNF since Malaysia 2016. That being Austria 2018.

Even including qualifying breakdowns he has had 3 issues in 5 years. Compared to the 6 issues in a 14 race period of 2016.
Trying to think of the qualifying breakdowns off the top of my head... Germany 2018 and?

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:50 am
by DOLOMITE
Another great drive from Hamilton again really demonstrating the level he is at, but this was very much to me a Schu/Ferrari joint-effort kind of win. Also makes the point again that for anyone to beat the Hamilton/Merc combination they will have to be fault free in every single area.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:59 am
by F1Tyrant
Hamilton stays for 2022 and 2023! I'm going to relish these seasons as they should be epic Hamilton vs Verstappen battles as we never got a Round 1 between Senna and Schumacher or beyond Round 1 between Schumacher and Alonso!

Fingers crossed he's joined by Russell for next year so he can prove his ability against the next generation in the same car!

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:41 am
by Yeboah24
Great news for the sport imo.

If lewis can duke it out with both russell in team, and max in a red bull with similar car performance. If he comes out on top, gives more claim tonthe GOAT status.

I remember the 17 18 season, saw those as his opportunity to solidify claim on the "best of his generation" by coming out on top vs. Vettel.

Hopefully next season is all its been advertised to be. Part of my wishes they binned the cheese tyres and brought back refuelling. See this current generation driving flat out an entire race. Has to be said tho today tyre management is one of hamiltons strengths

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:56 am
by F1Tyrant
Yeboah24 wrote:
Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:41 am
Hopefully next season is all its been advertised to be. Part of my wishes they binned the cheese tyres and brought back refuelling. See this current generation driving flat out an entire race. Has to be said tho today tyre management is one of hamiltons strengths
I'm quietly confident it will be a strong formula for Hamilton, the most pertinent question is if it is an even better fit for Verstappen! I think refuelling needs to stay banned, instead they should make mega tyres and make tyre stops non-mandatory like in the late 1980s, early 1990s to push from lap 1 to the finish with some teams making a tyre stop (or no stop) gamble if there is higher than anticipated tyre degradation.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:14 am
by Invade
This could be huge for the sport, as I have a feeling Lewis vs Max may run now for several years. Indeed, it might be something like what Senna vs Schumi could have been. And the more the merrier, so hopefully other teams nail it for the next era and the likes of Lando, Charles, Nando, and perhaps George in the Mercedes team, can join in the fun.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:49 am
by Yeboah24
Invade wrote:
Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:14 am
This could be huge for the sport, as I have a feeling Lewis vs Max may run now for several years. Indeed, it might be something like what Senna vs Schumi could have been. And the more the merrier, so hopefully other teams nail it for the next era and the likes of Lando, Charles, Nando, and perhaps George in the Mercedes team, can join in the fun.
I agree, and fingers crossed we have ferrari and mclaren "up there" so the gap isnt too large. Max and lewis i agree could do alot of good for the sport. The concept of lewis and max able to race closely is mouth watering. At the moment one needs a descent tyre or performance advantage to do so.

Question is, can lewis hang with max for 2 years without declining. It would be a shame if he couldnt

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:21 am
by IDFD
After seeing Lewis post race yesterday he's probably grateful for the summer break has come.

He mentioned after the race that he thinks it's due to long covid. With that being the case do you think we could see a scenario where the FIA ask him to go through a medical?

He was dizzy post race it could be very dangerous if that was to happen in the car. I'm surprised Merc were willing to give him s two year deal with that hanging over him also.

Especially strange that he said he first got it after Silverstone and then again yesterday but way worse. So the symptoms are getting worse not better. Could yet have an impact on this year's championship if they decide he needs to sit out a race.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:27 pm
by pokerman
IDFD wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:21 am
After seeing Lewis post race yesterday he's probably grateful for the summer break has come.

He mentioned after the race that he thinks it's due to long covid. With that being the case do you think we could see a scenario where the FIA ask him to go through a medical?

He was dizzy post race it could be very dangerous if that was to happen in the car. I'm surprised Merc were willing to give him s two year deal with that hanging over him also.

Especially strange that he said he first got it after Silverstone and then again yesterday but way worse. So the symptoms are getting worse not better. Could yet have an impact on this year's championship if they decide he needs to sit out a race.
It sounds like the break as come at a good time for him.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:10 pm
by Yeboah24
pokerman wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:27 pm
IDFD wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:21 am
After seeing Lewis post race yesterday he's probably grateful for the summer break has come.

He mentioned after the race that he thinks it's due to long covid. With that being the case do you think we could see a scenario where the FIA ask him to go through a medical?

He was dizzy post race it could be very dangerous if that was to happen in the car. I'm surprised Merc were willing to give him s two year deal with that hanging over him also.

Especially strange that he said he first got it after Silverstone and then again yesterday but way worse. So the symptoms are getting worse not better. Could yet have an impact on this year's championship if they decide he needs to sit out a race.
It sounds like the break as come at a good time for him.
I dont think he said long covid. Didnt he just say since he had covid his training has been different as he fatigues easier. Silverstone and hungary were both intense races coming through the field, so maybe execebated. I dont expect to see it again to be honest. Probably was low on blood sugar maybe he didnt eat enough runner beans for brekky. Either way hope he doesnt sit a race out or worse, get benched by the fia until hes 100%.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:46 pm
by Exediron
Yeboah24 wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:10 pm
pokerman wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:27 pm
IDFD wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:21 am
After seeing Lewis post race yesterday he's probably grateful for the summer break has come.

He mentioned after the race that he thinks it's due to long covid. With that being the case do you think we could see a scenario where the FIA ask him to go through a medical?

He was dizzy post race it could be very dangerous if that was to happen in the car. I'm surprised Merc were willing to give him s two year deal with that hanging over him also.

Especially strange that he said he first got it after Silverstone and then again yesterday but way worse. So the symptoms are getting worse not better. Could yet have an impact on this year's championship if they decide he needs to sit out a race.
It sounds like the break as come at a good time for him.
I dont think he said long covid. Didnt he just say since he had covid his training has been different as he fatigues easier. Silverstone and hungary were both intense races coming through the field, so maybe execebated. I dont expect to see it again to be honest. Probably was low on blood sugar maybe he didnt eat enough runner beans for brekky. Either way hope he doesnt sit a race out or worse, get benched by the fia until hes 100%.
That's kind of what long Covid is all about -- low energy and fatigue lasting long beyond when the dominant symptoms are gone.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:45 pm
by Mort Canard
I would hope that Lewis gets some expert medical advice about his health and that Merc can find someone to help tailor his diet and training regimen to best get him back to 100%.

The closer Lewis gets to 40 the more he will have trouble maintaining the same kind of fitness and driving skills that he has had over the last six years.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:57 am
by pokerman
Mort Canard wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:45 pm
I would hope that Lewis gets some expert medical advice about his health and that Merc can find someone to help tailor his diet and training regimen to best get him back to 100%.

The closer Lewis gets to 40 the more he will have trouble maintaining the same kind of fitness and driving skills that he has had over the last six years.
In terms of diet Hamilton is a vegan, does this kind of diet sufficiently replace the proteins you require for high physical sports?

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:05 pm
by mikeyg123
pokerman wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:57 am
Mort Canard wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:45 pm
I would hope that Lewis gets some expert medical advice about his health and that Merc can find someone to help tailor his diet and training regimen to best get him back to 100%.

The closer Lewis gets to 40 the more he will have trouble maintaining the same kind of fitness and driving skills that he has had over the last six years.
In terms of diet Hamilton is a vegan, does this kind of diet sufficiently replace the proteins you require for high physical sports?
You don't need a lot of protein in your diet for F1. Carbs are your main energy source. The body will only try to use Protein for energy if it doesn't have enough Carbohydrates.

Anyway, I'm sure Hamilton is working with a nutritionist and has his macros on point.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:17 pm
by pokerman
mikeyg123 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:05 pm
pokerman wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:57 am
Mort Canard wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:45 pm
I would hope that Lewis gets some expert medical advice about his health and that Merc can find someone to help tailor his diet and training regimen to best get him back to 100%.

The closer Lewis gets to 40 the more he will have trouble maintaining the same kind of fitness and driving skills that he has had over the last six years.
In terms of diet Hamilton is a vegan, does this kind of diet sufficiently replace the proteins you require for high physical sports?
You don't need a lot of protein in your diet for F1. Carbs are your main energy source. The body will only try to use Protein for energy if it doesn't have enough Carbohydrates.

Anyway, I'm sure Hamilton is working with a nutritionist and has his macros on point.
Fair enough. :thumbup:

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:09 pm
by EPROM
Proteins are needed to develop and maintain muscles. Carbs are needed to feed those muscles during practice and the event. As I understand, significant care/planning is needed for vegetarians/vegans to obtain sufficient protein intake, particularly for athletes. As far as high protein vegetables go, I think we're primarily talking beans and legumes.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:32 pm
by Azi
pokerman wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:57 am
Mort Canard wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:45 pm
I would hope that Lewis gets some expert medical advice about his health and that Merc can find someone to help tailor his diet and training regimen to best get him back to 100%.

The closer Lewis gets to 40 the more he will have trouble maintaining the same kind of fitness and driving skills that he has had over the last six years.
In terms of diet Hamilton is a vegan, does this kind of diet sufficiently replace the proteins you require for high physical sports?
There are plenty of vegan professional bodybuilders - it's definitely possible to build muscles as an athlete on a plant based diet.

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:37 pm
by Mort Canard
EPROM wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:09 pm
Proteins are needed to develop and maintain muscles. Carbs are needed to feed those muscles during practice and the event. As I understand, significant care/planning is needed for vegetarians/vegans to obtain sufficient protein intake, particularly for athletes. As far as high protein vegetables go, I think we're primarily talking beans and legumes.
:thumbup: :nod:

A combination of grains and legumes provides complete proteins.

The hardest vitamins and minerals for vegans to get are: Vitamin B-12, Vitamin D, Calcium, Omega 3 fatty acids, Iron, & Zinc.

I would guess that Lewis has access to dietary experts that can help him with these.