Your number 2 driver.
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:29 pm
If you're a top driver with definite number 1 status on your team, who would you want to be as your teammate?
Or Rubinho maybe? His two mates won WDCs.Laura23 wrote:Mark Webber. His team mate has won the last three WDC.
I'd rather have Webber. He at least is an honest bloke, he'd tell you straight if you were being a penis and to not be a penis please.Adit N. wrote:Or Rubinho maybe? His two mates won WDCs.Laura23 wrote:Mark Webber. His team mate has won the last three WDC.
Massa Brazil 2012 spec is a good shout. He was carving his way through the field like a hot knife through butter as well as hauling his team mate along behind him at one point. Then he did the sublime move on Webber boxing him in to let Alonso slide past both of the whilst getting ahead of Webber himself. The guy was on fire that day!AngusWolfe wrote:Barrichello circa early 2000s, now? Massa as he ended last season. Takes up points of other drivers and will move if asked. I feel really bad for using him like that but that's how I'd go.
Agree on that. Probably the best 'wingman' drive I've seen.Laura23 wrote:Massa Brazil 2012 spec is a good shout. He was carving his way through the field like a hot knife through butter as well as hauling his team mate along behind him at one point. Then he did the sublime move on Webber boxing him in to let Alonso slide past both of the whilst getting ahead of Webber himself. The guy was on fire that day!AngusWolfe wrote:Barrichello circa early 2000s, now? Massa as he ended last season. Takes up points of other drivers and will move if asked. I feel really bad for using him like that but that's how I'd go.
Mark would say please?Laura23 wrote:I'd rather have Webber. He at least is an honest bloke, he'd tell you straight if you were being a penis and to not be a penis please.Adit N. wrote:Or Rubinho maybe? His two mates won WDCs.Laura23 wrote:Mark Webber. His team mate has won the last three WDC.
Sometimes beating your teammate is not enough. If you're fighting for WDC you would want a reliable driver alongside you to take points from your rival.Fiki wrote:Mark would say please?Laura23 wrote:I'd rather have Webber. He at least is an honest bloke, he'd tell you straight if you were being a penis and to not be a penis please.Adit N. wrote:Or Rubinho maybe? His two mates won WDCs.Laura23 wrote:Mark Webber. His team mate has won the last three WDC.
Nobody. If I'm not confident enough to race my teammate, I don't deserve to be paid obscene amounts of money.
I don't imagine he'd care in theory but on track he's his own man. I can't see him moving over for anyone.Formula1Fan. wrote:Fernando Alonso.....j/k
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Raikkonen probably. He scores good points, would be able to hold other drivers up and doesn't seem that bothered about being No.1 (or bothered about anything really).
A driver who is respected, will do so when the time comes, without having to be a number 2.Adit N. wrote:Sometimes beating your teammate is not enough. If you're fighting for WDC you would want a reliable driver alongside you to take points from your rival.Fiki wrote:Mark would say please?Laura23 wrote:I'd rather have Webber. He at least is an honest bloke, he'd tell you straight if you were being a penis and to not be a penis please.Adit N. wrote:Or Rubinho maybe? His two mates won WDCs.Laura23 wrote:Mark Webber. His team mate has won the last three WDC.
Nobody. If I'm not confident enough to race my teammate, I don't deserve to be paid obscene amounts of money.
coulthards chin wrote:Alonso/Vettel/Hamilton, because...
1) If any one of them was my number two, then I'd sure as hell be the class of the field.
2) They would push me to my limits
3) The tantrums when they get asked to let me through would be highly amusing.
I was thinking of Massa/Webber, but sod that. This answer covers me!Fiki wrote:coulthards chin wrote:Alonso/Vettel/Hamilton, because...
1) If any one of them was my number two, then I'd sure as hell be the class of the field.
2) They would push me to my limits
3) The tantrums when they get asked to let me through would be highly amusing.
Adit N. wrote:Agree on that. Probably the best 'wingman' drive I've seen.Laura23 wrote:Massa Brazil 2012 spec is a good shout. He was carving his way through the field like a hot knife through butter as well as hauling his team mate along behind him at one point. Then he did the sublime move on Webber boxing him in to let Alonso slide past both of the whilst getting ahead of Webber himself. The guy was on fire that day!AngusWolfe wrote:Barrichello circa early 2000s, now? Massa as he ended last season. Takes up points of other drivers and will move if asked. I feel really bad for using him like that but that's how I'd go.
Yep, me too.SchumieRules wrote:I was thinking of Massa/Webber, but sod that. This answer covers me!Fiki wrote:coulthards chin wrote:Alonso/Vettel/Hamilton, because...
1) If any one of them was my number two, then I'd sure as hell be the class of the field.
2) They would push me to my limits
3) The tantrums when they get asked to let me through would be highly amusing.
coulthards chin wrote:Alonso/Vettel/Hamilton, because...
1) If any one of them was my number two, then I'd sure as hell be the class of the field.
2) They would push me to my limits
3) The tantrums when they get asked to let me through would be highly amusing.
Grosjean - he can take everyone out for me...RickM wrote:Narain. He can hold everyone up for me
Good points!coulthards chin wrote:Alonso/Vettel/Hamilton, because...
1) If any one of them was my number two, then I'd sure as hell be the class of the field.
2) They would push me to my limits
3) The tantrums when they get asked to let me through would be highly amusing.
Your mention of number two driver Nelson Piquet jnr : he was a really fast rookie when measured against team-mate Alonso in 2008. And when you consider that he hardly had any testing (hogged by Fred) his performances were outstanding. According to my stats Grosjean was 0.3% slower than Piquet on average, for the seven races after he took over. Grosjean too was fast in 2009 for a rookie with little testing. RoGro now is really fast.Adit N. wrote:Massa moved for Alonso, Rubens for Schumi, and Piquet Jr. to the wall. I feel bad for Brazilians.
In qualifying Grosjean was quicker than PiquetPOBRatings wrote:Your mention of number two driver Nelson Piquet jnr : he was a really fast rookie when measured against team-mate Alonso in 2008. And when you consider that he hardly had any testing (hogged by Fred) his performances were outstanding. According to my stats Grosjean was 0.3% slower than Piquet on average, for the seven races after he took over. Grosjean too was fast in 2009 for a rookie with little testing. RoGro now is really fast.Adit N. wrote:Massa moved for Alonso, Rubens for Schumi, and Piquet Jr. to the wall. I feel bad for Brazilians.
Piquet jnr was great loss to F1. Had he stayed with Renault, he'd have been teamed with Kubica for 2010. Imo this would have been a formidable pair.
Explain the Button bit, please?ATM2 wrote:Massa not political...mmmmaybe. But Button is a really political animal (and I'm saying this as one of his fans). Luckily, with Hamilton leaving, he's pushed as a no 1 driver, just hope he can deliver like in the Honda/Brawn days.
As for other favorite no. 2 drivers, I would have to go with Coulthard and Herbert.