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Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:43 am
by F1nsider
Button can only give few more years, so McLaren have placed their bet on Perez to be the future of the team.

How do you guys feel about this? Can he rise up to the challenge?



Discuss :)

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:51 am
by jammin78
I'll tell you in ten Grand Prix's time...

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:52 am
by SilverstoneRegular
There's only one way to find out....

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:55 am
by Lt. Drebin
Hard question; he had excellent race pace in some races, but at some he was nowhere. I think that tyre and car characteristics will play decisive role in answer to this question.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:01 pm
by RickM
Yes.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:04 pm
by F1nsider
Lt. Drebin wrote:Hard question; he had excellent race pace in some races, but at some he was nowhere. I think that tyre and car characteristics will play decisive role in answer to this question.
I'm not an expert but I've read people say that his driving style is almost identical to Jenson's so I think that will help the team to focus on both drivers given that the direction of the car is the same in terms of development

Whitmarsh just said that he promises equal treatment to both drivers, which is also another good sign for Perez to shine

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:25 pm
by Perilouscow
F1nsider wrote:
Lt. Drebin wrote:Hard question; he had excellent race pace in some races, but at some he was nowhere. I think that tyre and car characteristics will play decisive role in answer to this question.
I'm not an expert but I've read people say that his driving style is almost identical to Jenson's so I think that will help the team to focus on both drivers given that the direction of the car is the same in terms of development

Whitmarsh just said that he promises equal treatment to both drivers, which is also another good sign for Perez to shine
If he can take the pressure, after he signed with Mclaren he completely dropped off, people said he was trying to prove something or maybe he just cracked because he knew people were watching his every move now. Every mistake he makes in the Mclaren will be spotted and scrutinized, whereas at Sauber he could go under the radar a little more.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:30 pm
by Laura23
Yes.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:35 pm
by Sutton
depends what is deemed a 'success'

will he win races = absolutely.
will he win the title and/or multiple titles = maybe, maybe not.depends.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:39 pm
by benmc
Bit of a novel here, but my simple answer is: Yes, absolutely. He'll be better than almost everyone seems to want to believe.

He has supreme talent, but a lot of misfortune last year meant he only got to translate that into a major result on three occasions. I don't understand why people describe him as lucky and can only come to the conclusion that these people spend more time staring at stat sheets than watching races. In Malaysia he had a strategy that worked well early on, but once he got up there he was fighting for victory on pure pace, not luck. And had Sauber not cancelled out their early bold move by being extremely conservative late on, we'd likely be talking of Perez as a Grand Prix winner. In Monza, he clearly had an advantage in the second stint, but without his excellent first stint, where he gained positions on the slower, hard tyre, he probably wouldn't have finished on the podium.

I've got a lot of respect for drivers like that, who get a fortunate opportunity but go on to make the most of it. Too often these types of drivers get unfiarly criticised, such as when Hamilton was criticised for walking into F1 with the best car. Why criticise a driver who succeeds?

For a 22 year-old he is pretty experienced. He knows what it is like to get hurt. He knows what it is like to be effectively bullied out on track, and he stood up for himself. He also beat a pretty solid and underrated benchmark in Kobayashi over a single season. Koba wasn't a top talent, but he was IMO worthy of a decent drive this year.

My only question about Perez is his attitude. He speaks of beating Button and winning the title, but are those just empty words? He's reportedly not the fittest driver in the paddock. We haven't seen yet how he can recover from a slump in form, or deal with the expectation of a top drive. Ultimately, he has the speed and he can race, but can he back that up with the type of dedication and mental strength we see from Vettel?

IMO he's at the best place possible. McLaren has done an excellent job of replacing elite drivers with young talents who emerge as elite racers. When Senna left, he was replaced by Hakkinen, who was replaced by Raikkonen, who was replaced by Hamilton. Perez arguably has shown greater potential than Hakkinen and Raikkonen (obviously Hamilton was a rookie) did in their time at smaller teams.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:14 pm
by dabi
I think Sergio will be 2013 WDC! Like seriously its anyone's guess.. Had HRT not gone bankrupt i think they would have won in Australia..

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:21 pm
by A2jdl
Yes I was just saying to the lads in the office he will do well and beat button !

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:22 pm
by Deep_blue
Yes, he will succeed, I see him in the fight for 2013 title along with Vettel, Alonso, Kimi and maybe Button

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:25 pm
by Haribo
Much too early to say. If McLaren has a very good car, yes, if not both drivers will be lost at see.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:35 pm
by going_the_distance
I think providing McLaren make a good car (likely, given the small changes in regs) it's going to be exciting to watch him this year. He may not stand out in quali but I can see a couple of dramatic race wins coming his way.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:38 pm
by moby
F1nsider wrote:
Lt. Drebin wrote:Hard question; he had excellent race pace in some races, but at some he was nowhere. I think that tyre and car characteristics will play decisive role in answer to this question.
I'm not an expert but I've read people say that his driving style is almost identical to Jenson's so I think that will help the team to focus on both drivers given that the direction of the car is the same in terms of development

Whitmarsh just said that he promises equal treatment to both drivers, which is also another good sign for Perez to shine
Not a big fan of two drivers with the same 'style' for several reasons. Biggest of which is that if a track or tyre wont suite one driver then they are both screwed.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:49 pm
by IXIAN
Yes, he will win at Mac.

It puzzles me that Mac is training a future Ferrari driver, though that did work out for Kimi.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:50 pm
by RickM
moby wrote:
F1nsider wrote:
Lt. Drebin wrote:Hard question; he had excellent race pace in some races, but at some he was nowhere. I think that tyre and car characteristics will play decisive role in answer to this question.
I'm not an expert but I've read people say that his driving style is almost identical to Jenson's so I think that will help the team to focus on both drivers given that the direction of the car is the same in terms of development

Whitmarsh just said that he promises equal treatment to both drivers, which is also another good sign for Perez to shine
Not a big fan of two drivers with the same 'style' for several reasons. Biggest of which is that if a track or tyre wont suite one driver then they are both screwed.
But on the flipside, they can tailor the car more to said tracks as opposed to making it only work for one of them. Generally when you have 1 of 2 drivers who are poor on 1 track its due to the car. If the car can be 'tweaked' for both before hand it should theoretically lessen the impact of that.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:03 pm
by Laura23
IXIAN wrote:Yes, he will win at Mac.

It puzzles me that Mac is training a future Ferrari driver, though that did work out for Kimi.
Perez won't be going to Ferrari now. I reckon they've chosen Hulkenburg as Massa's possible replacement now.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:29 pm
by BrazilLastCorner2008
Yes he will

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:30 am
by M.Nader -DODZ-
I sincerely hope he gives Jenson a run for his money as he is quite fast and seems to be a genuinly nice guy, or else Mclaren should dump him and get Hulkenberg. if he does go well i would like to see a rivalry between him, Hulk, Ricciardo, Vettel, Grosjean and Hamilton in the future.

I'll be rooting for the Mclaren boys.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:51 am
by Eva09
I think he will succeed but not beat Jenson.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:25 am
by F1nsider
Laura23 wrote:
IXIAN wrote:Yes, he will win at Mac.

It puzzles me that Mac is training a future Ferrari driver, though that did work out for Kimi.
Perez won't be going to Ferrari now. I reckon they've chosen Hulkenburg as Massa's possible replacement now.
Not if Redbull signs him first.
Eva09 wrote:I think he will succeed but not beat Jenson.
For some reason I can't see Perez becoming a superstar and a driver who can lead a big team like McLaren, but again he's still young, and if he can impress in his first year with them he can gain more confidence

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:37 am
by Covalent
I have this feeling he will flop, but I hope he'll prove me wrong.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:46 am
by F1nsider
Covalent wrote:I have this feeling he will flop, but I hope he'll prove me wrong.
To be honest. I have exactly the same feeling. I love McLaren but the pairing they chose is not very exciting.


Found this in some forum

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Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:48 am
by bourbon19
Yes.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:59 am
by mcdo
I expect he won't be as good as Lewis but will be better than Kovalainen.

Think Massa 2006. If the car is a race winner he'll win a race or two.
He can then build up towards a title charge in 2014 or 2015.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:27 pm
by Classic
He will succeed to the extent of winning afew races during his time at McLaren, but I doubt he will ever put up a serious title challenge. I see him working his contract then leaving, or depending on consistency he may be offered 1 year extensions to help in the WCC. Also if he proves to be any good I'm sure Ferrari will pick him back up at the end of his current contract.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:38 pm
by Eva09
F1nsider wrote:
Covalent wrote:I have this feeling he will flop, but I hope he'll prove me wrong.
To be honest. I have exactly the same feeling. I love McLaren but the pairing they chose is not very exciting.


Found this in some forum

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He should smile more Perez because he has a nice smile. So often he looks so gormless.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:23 pm
by Nephilist
Something tells me that Perez will have a few strong races over the year leaving opinions split on his talent but won't be absolute top tier material. Button will top him on points at season's end and McLaren will have a mediocre year by their standards. Imho they need to replace Whitmarsh with a stronger person at the helm.

Other teams need to raise their game to beat the Newey/Vettel combination but letting LH slip through their fingers can only be seen as a step backwards (unless he really really shocks us all). I'm really just hoping Lotus or Merc pull something special out of the bag to spice up this season.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:01 pm
by Honda Quick
Lt. Drebin wrote:Hard question; he had excellent race pace in some races, but at some he was nowhere. I think that tyre and car characteristics will play decisive role in answer to this question.
Sir, I believe this thread is about Perez and not Bu-

Oh. Wait a tick. :p

In honesty, I feel he will do better than what Heikki did (for whatever reasons may have been the case for Heikki's overall poor showing). We will have to wait though and see. I hope he doesn't fade out. I'd like to see him stay in F1. With any luck, a strong showing from him may generate some interest in Kamui again, too, from teams.

Re: Do you think Perez will succeed at McLaren?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:17 am
by nike2die4
SilverstoneRegular wrote:There's only one way to find out....
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!