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Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:11 pm
by mds
a.rellum wrote:Nowhere in this interview does he EVER say Seb is better than Lewis.
That's correct. He only said Schumacher once said to him that of all young drivers Vettel had the most potential, and that Schumacher was right.

That's all.

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:23 pm
by Haribo
mds wrote:
a.rellum wrote:Nowhere in this interview does he EVER say Seb is better than Lewis.
That's correct. He only said Schumacher once said to him that of all young drivers Vettel had the most potential, and that Schumacher was right.

That's all.
We don't know wich drivers Schumacher meant, he spoke about Vettels karting time. Don't think he had a direct comparison with all other drivers around Vettels age.

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:33 pm
by mds
Haribo wrote:
mds wrote:
a.rellum wrote:Nowhere in this interview does he EVER say Seb is better than Lewis.
That's correct. He only said Schumacher once said to him that of all young drivers Vettel had the most potential, and that Schumacher was right.

That's all.
We don't know wich drivers Schumacher meant, he spoke about Vettels karting time. Don't think he had a direct comparison with all other drivers around Vettels age.
He did say "coming from karts, Vettel had the most potential of any young driver".
"Any young driver" basically means "all of them".

Also, you don't need a "direct" comparison with all other drivers. Talent is noticed quite quickly and you can be sure that Hamilton was also noticed.

Make of it what you will, but that for me is no small statement to make. I don't necessarily feel that way myself, just pointing out that that part of what LdM said does mean something.

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:00 pm
by Haribo
mds wrote:
Haribo wrote:
mds wrote:
a.rellum wrote:Nowhere in this interview does he EVER say Seb is better than Lewis.
That's correct. He only said Schumacher once said to him that of all young drivers Vettel had the most potential, and that Schumacher was right.

That's all.
We don't know wich drivers Schumacher meant, he spoke about Vettels karting time. Don't think he had a direct comparison with all other drivers around Vettels age.
He did say "coming from karts, Vettel had the most potential of any young driver".
"Any young driver" basically means "all of them".

Also, you don't need a "direct" comparison with all other drivers. Talent is noticed quite quickly and you can be sure that Hamilton was also noticed.

Make of it what you will, but that for me is no small statement to make. I don't necessarily feel that way myself, just pointing out that that part of what LdM said does mean something.
Even Schumacher is not omniscient

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:03 am
by mds
It's not as much about Schumacher saying it, but more about LdM confirming he was right.

Anyway, to each his own opinion :-)

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:14 pm
by Vettelmessi
i agree

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:51 am
by Vettelmessi
so many differing opinions. i guess we only have the number of titles to truly judge them

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:41 pm
by mcdo
Vettelmessi wrote:so many differing opinions. i guess we only have the number of titles to truly judge them
I know if I was a mod I'd ban you for that comment.

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:45 pm
by Covalent
mcdo wrote:
Vettelmessi wrote:so many differing opinions. i guess we only have the number of titles to truly judge them
I know if I was a mod I'd ban you for that comment.
I think you'd find more ban-worthy comments than this.

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:50 pm
by Laura23
mcdo wrote:
Vettelmessi wrote:so many differing opinions. i guess we only have the number of titles to truly judge them
I know if I was a mod I'd ban you for that comment.
He didn't do anything wrong there.

Besides he has a point to a degree, to a casual fan titles, wins and poles are how they judge how good a driver is. Vettel has more than Hamilton on all three accounts so the casual fan will probably consider him better purely on stats.

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:04 pm
by mcdo
Covalent wrote:
mcdo wrote:
Vettelmessi wrote:so many differing opinions. i guess we only have the number of titles to truly judge them
I know if I was a mod I'd ban you for that comment.
I think you'd find more ban-worthy comments than this.
Laura23 wrote:
mcdo wrote:
Vettelmessi wrote:so many differing opinions. i guess we only have the number of titles to truly judge them
I know if I was a mod I'd ban you for that comment.
He didn't do anything wrong there.

Besides he has a point to a degree, to a casual fan titles, wins and poles are how they judge how good a driver is. Vettel has more than Hamilton on all three accounts so the casual fan will probably consider him better purely on stats.
Vettelmessi was the last poster on this topic 4 days ago. They then reserructed the thread for no reason but to bait. Trying to kickstart an argument again.

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:17 pm
by Laura23
Well to be fair you didn't have to reply, you could have just let it go and the thread would have went back to going dormant...

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:25 pm
by Pedrosa_4_Ever
Until VettelMessi posted in it again :lol: ...

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:29 pm
by Laura23
So ignore him. It's not hard. If he kept double posting himself the mods would have stepped in anyway.

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:26 am
by FormulaFun
ahhh man i was really hoping nobody would reply to him because it was so hilariously pathetic that he was trying to hard to rez it

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:43 am
by Pedrosa_4_Ever
And now you've gone and bumped it by posting! And now I have! This is an absolute minefield :lol: ...

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:43 am
by r41
Vettelmessi wrote:so many differing opinions. i guess we only have the number of titles to truly judge them
epic resurrection :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Ferrari (Di Montezemolo) - Vettel Is Better Than Hamilto

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:59 am
by bourbon19
mds wrote:It's not as much about Schumacher saying it, but more about LdM confirming he was right.

Anyway, to each his own opinion :-)
This. It is Monty's opinion that Vettel would be best for Ferrari and to him, the best of the young lot - as Schumi indicated he would be. But Monty's reasons change every minute as to why he doesn't want Hamilton - so he's not too trustworthy, imo. Who knows what he really thinks about either...