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RaggedMan wrote:

ob1kenobi.23 wrote:What does “3.2-LFS6-P1″. mean.

http://www.inautonews.com/fia-investiga ... ed-message?

I saw that yesterday and was hoping there'd be more news by today. Nothing I've read says what point n the race that was displayed which might give a clue to what it means.

P1 most likely refers to Nico in first place, maybe the 3.2 was the gap at that point, and LFS6 is some reference to the soft tire with 6 laps on it? Maybe? Who knows. <shrug>

These reckon it could be a setting on the steering wheel as it has an FS6 on one of the dials
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra ... on-685317/

Might, might not

mcdo wrote:

RaggedMan wrote:

ob1kenobi.23 wrote:What does “3.2-LFS6-P1″. mean.

http://www.inautonews.com/fia-investiga ... ed-message?

I saw that yesterday and was hoping there'd be more news by today. Nothing I've read says what point n the race that was displayed which might give a clue to what it means.

P1 most likely refers to Nico in first place, maybe the 3.2 was the gap at that point, and LFS6 is some reference to the soft tire with 6 laps on it? Maybe? Who knows. <shrug>

These reckon it could be a setting on the steering wheel as it has an FS6 on one of the dials
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra ... on-685317/

Might, might not

Apparently, it was information that he should have been getting from the dash but wasn't because it was not working properly. IMO if it breaks, tough luck, but oh well.

Maybe they can put some of that extra $70 million into fixing that.

Pat Fry was on the Sky F1 Report today and he had a few interesting things to say about his time at Ferrari. He said with Luca di in charge everything was about winning the next race. It was all next race, next race. So their goals were too short term. As a result a lot of stuff was 8-10 years out of date. It took 6 months to figure out what was wrong with the wind tunnel and 1.5 years to fix it. Only a fraction of the budget was put into simulation tools - it was going to take 7-8 years to catch up. He reckons that now the right tools are in place and a management team that are more likely to have the bigger picture in mind

I had a rough idea it was bad but I didn't realise the simulation stuff was that bad. Kind of amazing they were even competitive. I was never really fond of Fry but I kinda felt for him in that chat. It must have been frustrating as hell to work in an environment like that... and then get the blame for their failures

Apparently, this is a leaked picture of the 2020 Ferrari. The image is doing the rounds in Italy. I'm not saying it's a true leak, just posting as it may be of interest.

La Gazzetta dello Sport

Asphalt_World wrote:Apparently, this is a leaked picture of the 2020 Ferrari. The image is doing the rounds in Italy. I'm not saying it's a true leak, just posting as it may be of interest.

La Gazzetta dello Sport

First post of 2020, happy new year!!!

Oh man, wasn't this the same design of the front wing that didn't really work for them?

Well, even if it is an official image, wings and other intricate areas of the car are normally hidden until first testing at least with these mocked up pictures using fairly standard wings.

Asphalt_World wrote:Well, even if it is an official image, wings and other intricate areas of the car are normally hidden until first testing at least with these mocked up pictures using fairly standard wings.

This is very true and you are right obviously, I just saw it and immediately thought "oh not again"...!

Looks like Vettel is going to be outnumbered at Ferrari 2 to 1 with the news that Charles Leclerc is going to be joined by his 19 year old brother Arthur as a tester!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51149032

Option or Prime wrote:Looks like Vettel is going to be outnumbered at Ferrari 2 to 1 with the news that Charles Leclerc is going to be joined by his 19 year old brother Arthur as a tester!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51149032

Looking at his results you have to believe he was signed mainly because he's Charles' brother?

First shot of 2020 Ferrari!


Twitter

OK, not much to go on. It's red this year though.

You know things have changed when Ferrari are 1-2 in the driver's championship, 1st in the constructors and I'm still gutted they only managed second and third today!

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:28 pm

You know things have changed when Ferrari are 1-2 in the driver's championship, 1st in the constructors and I'm still gutted they only managed second and third today!

Don't be greedy.

Definitely a big change and a promising start to this season, and I'm very happy to see it. Good, close racing all the way through both races so far, too.

Ferrari are exciting now, back when I first started seriously following F1 I wasn't a fan cos it was Schumi world and Irvine/Barrichello just lived in it and just wasn't keen on that, I couldn't buy Massa as a number one in 2008 and when Alonso joined it was a less successful retread of Schumis world and of course Vettel gave it his best but had Kimi... Being Kimi which.. We all love the guy but he was just collecting a paycheck by that point

However with "it is I" Leclerc ( UK fans of a certain age will get that joke) and Saniz we got two young exciting drivers, sure Charles is something special but Carlos is no Irvine/Barrichello/Massa.. He's a fighter and Charles is there by virtue of talent not backroom politics

Bobafett wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:10 am

Ferrari are exciting now, back when I first started seriously following F1 I wasn't a fan cos it was Schumi world and Irvine/Barrichello just lived in it and just wasn't keen on that, I couldn't buy Massa as a number one in 2008 and when Alonso joined it was a less successful retread of Schumis world and of course Vettel gave it his best but had Kimi... Being Kimi which.. We all love the guy but he was just collecting a paycheck by that point

However with "it is I" Leclerc ( UK fans of a certain age will get that joke) and Saniz we got two young exciting drivers, sure Charles is something special but Carlos is no Irvine/Barrichello/Massa.. He's a fighter and Charles is there by virtue of talent not backroom politics

"Good moaning".

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:09 pm

Bobafett wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:10 am

Ferrari are exciting now, back when I first started seriously following F1 I wasn't a fan cos it was Schumi world and Irvine/Barrichello just lived in it and just wasn't keen on that, I couldn't buy Massa as a number one in 2008 and when Alonso joined it was a less successful retread of Schumis world and of course Vettel gave it his best but had Kimi... Being Kimi which.. We all love the guy but he was just collecting a paycheck by that point

However with "it is I" Leclerc ( UK fans of a certain age will get that joke) and Saniz we got two young exciting drivers, sure Charles is something special but Carlos is no Irvine/Barrichello/Massa.. He's a fighter and Charles is there by virtue of talent not backroom politics

"Good moaning".

"I will say this once, and only once."

https://twitter.com/DrivenByData_/statu ... UVM5A&s=19

Black_Flag_11 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:07 pm

https://twitter.com/DrivenByData_/statu ... UVM5A&s=19

Wow, thank you, so cool

Bobafett wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:10 am

"it is I" Leclerc ( UK fans of a certain age will get that joke)

This may come as something of a surprise to many in the UK, but that phrase is known the world over.

And what I find really annoying is that a number of UK F1 commentators appear never to have seen 'Allo, Allo' at all, judging by how few of them take the trouble to pronounce Charles' name correctly. Why? If comedy actors could do it, why not F1 commentators? Some of their audience is from all over the world, if viewing the race highlights.

Rant over.

For now.

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:17 am

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

They didn't think Sainz's tyres would last the distance. That doesn't explain why they didn't pit him earlier though.

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:19 am

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:17 am

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

They didn't think Sainz's tyres would last the distance. That doesn't explain why they didn't pit him earlier though.

Or why they called him in, in the middle of a fight for position? Unless that was a delayed message, but either way he was too close to Perez.

Siao7 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:26 am

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:19 am

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:17 am

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

They didn't think Sainz's tyres would last the distance. That doesn't explain why they didn't pit him earlier though.

Or why they called him in, in the middle of a fight for position? Unless that was a delayed message, but either way he was too close to Perez.

My guess is they weren't actually watching the on track action at the time of the call.

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:30 am

Siao7 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:26 am

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:19 am

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:17 am

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

They didn't think Sainz's tyres would last the distance. That doesn't explain why they didn't pit him earlier though.

Or why they called him in, in the middle of a fight for position? Unless that was a delayed message, but either way he was too close to Perez.

My guess is they weren't actually watching the on track action at the time of the call.

Or that they thought that he'll chew his tyres further while involved in a battle? It would make sense if this was the case

Siao7 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:26 am

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:19 am

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:17 am

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

They didn't think Sainz's tyres would last the distance. That doesn't explain why they didn't pit him earlier though.

Or why they called him in, in the middle of a fight for position? Unless that was a delayed message, but either way he was too close to Perez.

I am almost certain it was a delayed message, for censorship purposes. I believe the delay is about 20 seconds, like last year.

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:17 am

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

If you get a plausible suggestion for any Ferrari strategy since Binotto is at the helm (though I suppose he is not the only "stragegist" involved), please let us know...

Exchanges between pit-wall and driver are delayed (to spare other teams copying Ferrari calls, I suppose).

Fiki wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:52 am

Siao7 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:26 am

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:19 am

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:17 am

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

They didn't think Sainz's tyres would last the distance. That doesn't explain why they didn't pit him earlier though.

Or why they called him in, in the middle of a fight for position? Unless that was a delayed message, but either way he was too close to Perez.

I am almost certain it was a delayed message, for censorship purposes. I believe the delay is about 20 seconds, like last year.

That would still put him right on Perez's backside and preparing for the attack. Not the best time for a message possibly?

Due to the fact that radio messages are not played out live, just in case the language is a little fruity, I don't actually think they called him in as he was passing Perez. It would have been a little earlier.

If this is the case, then they may have called him in there, thinking that not only were his tyres getting to the stage where they may not last the race but to also stop him from being held up by Perez and then possibly caught by others behind on failing tyres.

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:58 am

Due to the fact that radio messages are not played out live, just in case the language is a little fruity, I don't actually think they called him in as he was passing Perez. It would have been a little earlier.

If this is the case, then they may have called him in there, thinking that not only were his tyres getting to the stage where they may not last the race but to also stop him from being held up by Perez and then possibly caught by others behind on failing tyres.

But Sainz refused because he wanted to battle Perez. It cost time but in the end it did not matter for the result.

Siao7 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:15 am

Fiki wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:52 am

Siao7 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:26 am

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:19 am

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:17 am

Has anyone seen a plausible suggestion from Ferrari on their strategy in in France? How on earth did that make sense?

They didn't think Sainz's tyres would last the distance. That doesn't explain why they didn't pit him earlier though.

Or why they called him in, in the middle of a fight for position? Unless that was a delayed message, but either way he was too close to Perez.

I am almost certain it was a delayed message, for censorship purposes. I believe the delay is about 20 seconds, like last year.

That would still put him right on Perez's backside and preparing for the attack. Not the best time for a message possibly?

It might be possible to time it so that the delay still makes it impossible for a competing team to react to your order, but that would mean the delay always having to be same. Whether that's the case I have no idea.

I think instances such as yesterday show how much better F1 would be with a complete ban on team-to-driver radio.

Gasly also ran to the end on mediums so even Sainz could've. Ferrari should've asked him to pit earlier or just left him out.

I was questioning the decision at all, not the timing. He was clearly fine on those tyres, his times were good, the car looked stable and the gaps to the other cars were all manageable. Even if they had detrioriated a bit, we haven't seen the infamous "cliff" drop off.

I just dont get it..

Erm....how did Ferrari come away with that result...

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:49 pm

Erm....how did Ferrari come away with that result...

One of science's greatest questions!

The once all conquering Ferrari team have become what Jose Mourinho would probably describe as 'specialists in failure'.

Binotto sees no reasons for any changes in Ferraris strategy team - Autosport reports.

Paolo_Lasardi wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:47 pm

Binotto sees no reasons for any changes in Ferraris strategy team - Autosport reports.

Iñaki Rueda must have some dirt on Binotto; this is inexplicable.

What does not surprise me is that Ignacio seems to favour Sainz, his countryman and fellow Real Madrid fan, over Leclerc despite Leclerc clearly being the faster driver almost every single race.

Someone needs to get it through to Binotto that this man is not going to start favouring Leclerc in crunch situations or even remain neutral; and Sainz is not the one who can take the fight to Verstappen or Lewis in equal machinery.

Strider wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:30 pm

What does not surprise me is that Ignacio seems to favour Sainz, his countryman and fellow Real Madrid fan, over Leclerc despite Leclerc clearly being the faster driver almost every single race.

This is a McLaren 2010-2012 situation. It's about maximising Sainz's opportunity to beat Leclerc not maximising Leclerc's opportunity to win titles.

However, I'm sure the situation at Ferrari is fractious at the moment and the likely successor to Binotto will be a pro-Leclerc ultra to prevent him from leaving for Mercedes at all costs.

That'll be bad news for Sainz who probably won't like being recognised as the number 2 he actually is.

F1Tyrant wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:53 pm

Strider wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:30 pm

What does not surprise me is that Ignacio seems to favour Sainz, his countryman and fellow Real Madrid fan, over Leclerc despite Leclerc clearly being the faster driver almost every single race.

This is a McLaren 2010-2012 situation. It's about maximising Sainz's opportunity to beat Leclerc not maximising Leclerc's opportunity to win titles.

However, I'm sure the situation at Ferrari is fractious at the moment and the likely successor to Binotto will be a pro-Leclerc ultra to prevent him from leaving for Mercedes at all costs.

That'll be bad news for Sainz who probably won't like being recognised as the number 2 he actually is.

I don't think we have ever seen the strategy head being biased towards the number two driver.

Even during the title fights between Rosberg and Hamilton Mercedes clearly said whoever is ahead gets the strategy pick and Rosberg frequently let Hamilton by instead of holding him up; at Ferrari it seems as if no matter where Sainz is he will get the preferred strategy over their #1 driver.

Is this because of an innate preference for Sainz though? Or is it that Sainz is more assertive and better at advocating for himself. I might be wrong but I can well imagine that if Sainz had been asked to put hards on when Leclerc did in Hungary he would have insisted that the team have another think about that.