Did Martin Whitmarsh Intentionally Sabotage Jensons Pitstop?

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I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

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blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers


Sorry, there is no argument there. It is like saying that Merc destroyed Shueys race or Caterham destroyed Kovas race because there were issues with tyre changes or how about it takes longer time for Lotus to change for Kimi...

Or this this a deliberate flame bait?
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Alabama will be on to say the bad pit stop was to help him stay in front of Lewis in a minute .
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SwSpeed wrote:
blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers


Sorry, there is no argument there. It is like saying that Merc destroyed Shueys race or Caterham destroyed Kovas race because there were issues with tyre changes or how about it takes longer time for Lotus to change for Kimi...

Or this this a deliberate flame bait?


In fact if you see the replay in the Mercedes botched pit-stop you'll notice that the mechanic is not hitting his hand on the ground on desperation, but he is actually celebrating!
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SwSpeed wrote:Or this this a deliberate flame bait?

It's a parody of the "Whitmarsh sabotages Hamilton's race because Button is his favourite" threads.

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SchumieRules wrote:
SwSpeed wrote:
blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers


Sorry, there is no argument there. It is like saying that Merc destroyed Shueys race or Caterham destroyed Kovas race because there were issues with tyre changes or how about it takes longer time for Lotus to change for Kimi...

Or this this a deliberate flame bait?


In fact if you see the replay in the Mercedes botched pit-stop you'll notice that the mechanic is not hitting his hand on the ground on desperation, but he is actually celebrating!


Yes, thanks for pointing this out, of course he was celebrating :lol:
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i think Lewis dad through the rear left gun man a few bob to throw it ;)

1st race he's in the Macca garage and this happens. 8O 8O
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blakers wrote:Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.


This is a dead giveaway. Some people simply don't have a sense of humor :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Alienturnedhuman wrote:
SwSpeed wrote:Or this this a deliberate flame bait?

It's a parody of the "Whitmarsh sabotages Hamilton's race because Button is his favourite" threads.


Yes, of course... "McLaren employs two champs just to make the other one to suck?" :lol:
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If you look carefully, it was a Ferrari order so that Alonso could finish...........
oh wait, cant be that....Alonso finished 9th
Must be one of those guys that normally fiddle with Webber Kers that fiddled with the wheel gun, that is how Button ended up behind Vettel after the pitstops

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It's quite clear that as their engine supplier Mercedes took steps to make sure McLaren finished behind them, they used various sneaky tactics such as being faster than them over the race distance and qualifying ahead of them.

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moshbeard wrote:It's quite clear that as their engine supplier Mercedes took steps to make sure McLaren finished behind them, they used various sneaky tactics such as being faster than them over the race distance and qualifying ahead of them.


lol, I knew it!

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SwSpeed wrote:
blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers


Sorry, there is no argument there. It is like saying that Merc destroyed Shueys race or Caterham destroyed Kovas race because there were issues with tyre changes or how about it takes longer time for Lotus to change for Kimi...

Or this this a deliberate flame bait?

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Was Nicola Sherzy in China? :D
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SchumieRules wrote:
SwSpeed wrote:
blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers


Sorry, there is no argument there. It is like saying that Merc destroyed Shueys race or Caterham destroyed Kovas race because there were issues with tyre changes or how about it takes longer time for Lotus to change for Kimi...

Or this this a deliberate flame bait?


In fact if you see the replay in the Mercedes botched pit-stop you'll notice that the mechanic is not hitting his hand on the ground on desperation, but he is actually celebrating!


I thought i was the only one who saw that.

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Aside from the obvious levity of this thread, McLaren have a really nasty habit of botching pitstops at inopportune moments, in this instance it hasn't really effected JB's race, I honestly don't think he'd have chased Nico down on this occasion.

It isn't either driver in particular just a point of weakness that the team has had over the last few seasons, and now that they don't refuel the cars, it gets highlighted even more because we're talking about having 3 seconds to get it right where before they'd still be filling long after the wheels were on if all went well.

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Jenson clearly is Whitmarsh's favourite but if you're any judge of character you'd be able to see he isn't the sort of person to sabotage a driver's chances.
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Obviously he did it deliberately, Martin told me he wanted to leave Mclaren and join Marussia

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Why would he let them risk the cars by letting them race wheel to wheel on track and then sabotage them in the pit stops?

It was my understanding that team principles want their cars to win races?

Utterly utterly ridiculous thread.

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Just laughed out loud at work.

Awesome thread!

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Alienturnedhuman wrote:
SwSpeed wrote:Or this this a deliberate flame bait?

It's a parody of the "Whitmarsh sabotages Hamilton's race because Button is his favourite" threads.

I was cracking up when they messed up Button's pitstop. Must have shot a big hole through all their conspiracy theories...but I'm sure they'll invent some clever explanation that explains everything :lol:

It's going to be a tough task though...especially considering McLaren's efficient pitstop of Hamilton helped him leapfrog Kimi in the pits at Shanghai.

Edit - Looking at some of the responses to this thread, some people really need to cheer up and stop taking everything seriously. I can't believe the complete absurdity of OP's post did not set everyone's sarcasm/parody detector off.
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fourearedfox wrote:Why would he let them risk the cars by letting them race wheel to wheel on track and then sabotage them in the pit stops?

It was my understanding that team principles want their cars to win races?

Utterly utterly ridiculous thread.


Read the thread again, but this time engage 'Humour mode'.

It's satire.

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HamsterHuey wrote:
Alienturnedhuman wrote:
SwSpeed wrote:Or this this a deliberate flame bait?

It's a parody of the "Whitmarsh sabotages Hamilton's race because Button is his favourite" threads.

I was cracking up when they messed up Button's pitstop. Must have shot a big hole through all their conspiracy theories...but I'm sure they'll invent some clever explanation that explains everything :lol:

It's going to be a tough task though...especially considering McLaren's efficient pitstop of Hamilton helped him leapfrog Kimi in the pits at Shanghai.

Edit - Looking at some of the responses to this thread, some people really need to cheer up and stop taking everything seriously. I can't believe the complete absurdity of OP's post did not set everyone's sarcasm/parody detector off.



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the screw up on buttons stop may have been accidental or it may have been deliberate to fend of those catching on.


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shame some people cannot be mature.

If you think there is no favouritism at mclaren then you just post your opinion and also if you want your reasons.

instead this forum has descended into micky taking and attacking posters.

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SchumieRules wrote:
SwSpeed wrote:
blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers


Sorry, there is no argument there. It is like saying that Merc destroyed Shueys race or Caterham destroyed Kovas race because there were issues with tyre changes or how about it takes longer time for Lotus to change for Kimi...

Or this this a deliberate flame bait?


In fact if you see the replay in the Mercedes botched pit-stop you'll notice that the mechanic is not hitting his hand on the ground on desperation, but he is actually celebrating!


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blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers


Nope you are Utterly Utterly wrong....... How could you even suggest such a thing, do you even watch F1????




It was blatently Ron Dennis messing with the wheel nut as he wanted Hamilton to win!
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blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers

Nice one Blankers. Got a few good bites, although you should toss some of the humourless one back in..:)
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chrcoluk wrote:shame some people cannot be mature.

If you think there is no favouritism at mclaren then you just post your opinion and also if you want your reasons.

instead this forum has descended into micky taking and attacking posters.


Aimed at me, I guess.Which is fair enough.

But, you haven't said there is favouritism. I wouldn't dispute that. You've implied that, not only is one driver being sabotaged, but that they might now be deliberately disadvantaging the other driver, just for the purpose of putting people off the scent of the original sabotage. None of which, I might add, without a single shred - not one - of evidence. Other than "I think Whitmarsh favours Button", therefore all these allegations could be true.

All I have said is show me how. Neither you, nor anyone else has. All you've had to offer is that naughty things have happened in the past, therefore you stick by your allegations.

The previous poster had jokingly said that he thought some conspiracy theorists would put spin on Button's pit stop woes, to make it look like it was somehow against Hamilton. So I just posted your quote to show that that is indeed what is happening.

I would like to know how quoting you- in context- can be viewed as "attacking posters"?

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I'm actually genuinely surprised there hasn't been a more serious version of this thread from some of the same idiots who were of the belief that Sauber told Perez to run wide so they didn't upset their engine suppliers. McLaren were clearly doing the same - just keeping their engine supplier happy by removing Jens as a threat. Right?! ;)
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So for 2 years now, we've had Hamilton fanbois proclaiming that Jenson has been getting preferential treatment, is Whitmarsh's golden boy and Lewis has been hampered by him with bad strategy calls, bad car set up etc etc

and now we get this pile of crap? :?
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Jenson's Understeer wrote:I'm actually genuinely surprised there hasn't been a more serious version of this thread from some of the same idiots who were of the belief that Sauber told Perez to run wide so they didn't upset their engine suppliers. McLaren were clearly doing the same - just keeping their engine supplier happy by removing Jens as a threat. Right?! ;)



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blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers



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blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers

Having read this I come to the conclusion that Martin is Flavios evil twin brother :twisted:
he just keeps his thong hidden better :D

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cant believe i even read the first post...to daft to laugh at !
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moshbeard wrote:It's quite clear that as their engine supplier Mercedes took steps to make sure McLaren finished behind them, they used various sneaky tactics such as being faster than them over the race distance and qualifying ahead of them.


very funny! :thumbup:

mind you - I did wonder how the engines are allocated between main teams and 'customer' teams. Is it done at the beginning of the season? I mean, do Merc keep all the 'top' Quality Controlled engines for themselves for example? (I presume it's done on a pool supply basis in real life, perhaps drawing of lots? I would simply like to know how they do it!)

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otisp wrote:
blakers wrote:I've seen him skulking around at the back of the garage fiddling with Jensons tyre blankets.... and frankly I don't trust him.

In fact, If you look carefully at the timestamps on the BBC footage you can clearly see him give the order to the left rear gun guy during Buttons stop... Obviously in the hope that it would give Hamilton the chance he needed to pass.

Now I come to think of it, every time Jenson has been beaten by Lewis, Martin Whitmarsh must have been in some way involved. It's the only explanation that actually makes any sense. For example, Monaco 2010, I SAW Martin put that side-pod bung back in Jensons car before the race. At least I think I did.. I even reviewed the footage on youtube on my friends phone after the race to confirm it.

Anyway, This sort of thing would never have happened were Ron Dennis team principal, God I love him.

Blakers


Nope you are Utterly Utterly wrong....... How could you even suggest such a thing, do you even watch F1????




It was blatently Ron Dennis messing with the wheel nut as he wanted Hamilton to win!


Aha! that's because he could easily sneak in with all the fire retardant suits, helmets, etc, to hide his real identity!
Hmm, maybe it was Nicole? or Lord Luca?

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Has it taken you all so long to work this out? It was obvious after China last year, when Martin put on his best Christian Horner voice when personally radioing Jenson into the pits...

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Re: Did Martin Whitmarsh Intentionally Sabotage Jensons Pits

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Love it. I dunno what is funnier to be honest, the OP's post (well played sir) or the people who bit. If you told some posters on this forum there was no such word as gullible in the dictionary they would go look.

Makes a nice change from all the fanboyism this thread !!

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Re: Did Martin Whitmarsh Intentionally Sabotage Jensons Pits

Post by lunatic »

Alienturnedhuman wrote:
SwSpeed wrote:Or this this a deliberate flame bait?

It's a parody of the "Whitmarsh sabotages Hamilton's race because Button is his favourite" threads.
I'm glad i read beyond the first post because i was going to post on the same lines as you.
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