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Long run down to turn one. Not sure what the even numbered side of the grid is like but probably isn’t too bad as second does take the lead here fairly often.

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Verstappen to take Hamilton at the start before Red Bull mess up their strategy and Hamilton wins
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Statistically, either Hamilton or Max will win tomorrow as out of the last 30 grand prix here, 27 winners have started from the front row.
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UnlikeUday wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 5:28 pm
Statistically, either Hamilton or Max will win tomorrow as out of the last 30 grand prix here, 27 winners have started from the front row.
Anyone know the other three? Verstappen in 2016. Alonso 2013 maybe?

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JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 5:35 pm
UnlikeUday wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 5:28 pm
Statistically, either Hamilton or Max will win tomorrow as out of the last 30 grand prix here, 27 winners have started from the front row.
Anyone know the other three? Verstappen in 2016. Alonso 2013 maybe?
Maldonado 2012?

Of course, Alonso 2013 was when he overtook a bunch of cars at the start. Goes to show its all about entry into the first corner.
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Maldonado had one of those weird gps where he was on it for the whole weekend.

No.

I believe the other driver will be schumi in 1996. Started 3rd I believe. Fluffed his start and then came through the field in spectacular fashion to take his first ferrari win.

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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 6:14 pm
JN23 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 5:35 pm
UnlikeUday wrote:
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Statistically, either Hamilton or Max will win tomorrow as out of the last 30 grand prix here, 27 winners have started from the front row.
Anyone know the other three? Verstappen in 2016. Alonso 2013 maybe?
Maldonado 2012?

Of course, Alonso 2013 was when he overtook a bunch of cars at the start. Goes to show its all about entry into the first corner.
Lord Pastor was on pole after Hamilton exclusion from qualy.

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Funny grid pattern. Half of the teams having one driver directly behind the other, and another two teams having the second driver two places behind the other. Only the teams starting with Alpine and Alpha Romeo have their drivers on opposite sides of the grid.

Wonder if all these nose to tail combinations for the same team creates more risk of shunts as they start, or less.

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Weather will stay mildly cloudy but dry till the end of the race.
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Pit stop strategies as predicted by pirelli. The fastest way around is a 2 stopper.

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Pit stop strategies as predicted by pirelli. The fastest way around is a 2 stopper.

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Its only fast if you get no obstructions in front of you. Track position is going to be king isn't it?

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Its only fast if you get no obstructions in front of you. Track position is going to be king isn't it?
Well, Soft-Medium-Medium was the winning strategy last year if I recall, so there's a good chance a two-stopper truly is on the cards. Particularly with all the front-runners starting on softs.
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Option or Prime wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:21 am
UnlikeUday wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:17 am
Pit stop strategies as predicted by pirelli. The fastest way around is a 2 stopper.

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Its only fast if you get no obstructions in front of you. Track position is going to be king isn't it?
Perez being back in 8th is so frustrating. This is the exact situation where he should be able to shine.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:26 am
Option or Prime wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:21 am
UnlikeUday wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:17 am
Pit stop strategies as predicted by pirelli. The fastest way around is a 2 stopper.

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Its only fast if you get no obstructions in front of you. Track position is going to be king isn't it?
Perez being back in 8th is so frustrating. This is the exact situation where he should be able to shine.
I'm frustrated also. Hopefully because the pack is much closer to the front, he won't lose out too much in traffic and can still make some strategy work.
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I have accuweather radar showing rain 5 and 10 minutes before the race. For a short period. Looking to finnish just after the race start.

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Exediron wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:26 am
Option or Prime wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:21 am
Its only fast if you get no obstructions in front of you. Track position is going to be king isn't it?
Well, Soft-Medium-Medium was the winning strategy last year if I recall, so there's a good chance a two-stopper truly is on the cards. Particularly with all the front-runners starting on softs.
I think Red Bull might be planning two stints on softs and one medium for Verstappen looking at what they have available as they only have one medium tyre (which is new).

Mercedes have one new medium and one used, I assume just an out lap is on that tyre.

Both have new hards.

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JN23 wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 11:03 am
Exediron wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:26 am
Option or Prime wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:21 am
Its only fast if you get no obstructions in front of you. Track position is going to be king isn't it?
Well, Soft-Medium-Medium was the winning strategy last year if I recall, so there's a good chance a two-stopper truly is on the cards. Particularly with all the front-runners starting on softs.
I think Red Bull might be planning two stints on softs and one medium for Verstappen looking at what they have available as they only have one medium tyre (which is new).

Mercedes have one new medium and one used, I assume just an out lap is on that tyre.

Both have new hards.

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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 10:19 am
mikeyg123 wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:26 am
Option or Prime wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:21 am
UnlikeUday wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:17 am
Pit stop strategies as predicted by pirelli. The fastest way around is a 2 stopper.

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Its only fast if you get no obstructions in front of you. Track position is going to be king isn't it?
Perez being back in 8th is so frustrating. This is the exact situation where he should be able to shine.
I'm frustrated also. Hopefully because the pack is much closer to the front, he won't lose out too much in traffic and can still make some strategy work.
If he can make up ground & come to fourth, RB could try to 1 stop him. If the first 3 drivers would two stop, Perez could have a chance. All depends on his start.
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By the way, does anyone have the stat regarding safety car at this track?
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now norris has mentioned a tiny drop of rain, expect crofty to get carried away and try to get everyone excited about a river of a track......

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Cooler weather no doubt:

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If it rains, it won't rain much!

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Bottas seems rather happy to be starting 3rd rather than 2nd and not for the first time. It is often the case that he soon has recovered to 2nd by the first corner from 3rd anyway. He will have to show some aggression though.

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I still dont get this we race as one rubbish.
F1 is one of the most inclusive sports. For anyone who has the ability to get into the sport. And has been from day 1.
So has every sport I watch. Football. Rugby league.
Your treated as a equal and you get there on merits.

It's not a sporting issue. Just get on with the sport and forget the politics
Fans will start turning on these movements when they are in the stands because they want to watch the sport. Just look at football in england. Nascar in the usa. Fans turned on it and they dont do it now.

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Accuweather saying no rain now. But the clouds on the screen look very ominous.

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That's not a discussion for the race day topic, stick to the race please (the race as one initiative).

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wire2004 wrote:
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I still dont get this we race as one rubbish.
F1 is one of the most inclusive sports. For anyone who has the ability to get into the sport. And has been from day 1.
So has every sport I watch. Football. Rugby league.
Your treated as a equal and you get there on merits.

It's not a sporting issue. Just get on with the sport and forget the politics
Fans will start turning on these movements when they are in the stands because they want to watch the sport. Just look at football in england. Nascar in the usa. Fans turned on it and they dont do it now.
It's partly a sporting issue. That's why the FIA and Hamilton (I believe separately, though I'm sure they'll be in contact with one another) are looking into the disparity between genders and races in motorsports. Publicly standing against discrimination is a part of this, albeit also something designed to make a wider point. But remember there have been racist incidents at Grands Prix, this is a far more overt way of making it clear that such behaviour won't be tolerated at the track.

And no, motorsport isn't a meritocracy. If it was, we wouldn't have so many pay drivers littering the past and current grids.
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All are starting on softs except Raikkonen who's on mediums.
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Sorry Mod Yellow, I was already typing when you replied.
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wire2004 wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 12:52 pm
I still dont get this we race as one rubbish.
F1 is one of the most inclusive sports. For anyone who has the ability to get into the sport. And has been from day 1.
So has every sport I watch. Football. Rugby league.
Your treated as a equal and you get there on merits.

It's not a sporting issue. Just get on with the sport and forget the politics
Fans will start turning on these movements when they are in the stands because they want to watch the sport. Just look at football in england. Nascar in the usa. Fans turned on it and they dont do it now.
Deleted - as i also replied before mod yellow's post. Though what we were discussing literally does happen just before the race.

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Ive just made a new topic to discuss the issue, feel free to take it there.

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Schumacher in 16th. Won't stay there, but a great start for him.
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I was going to say Mercedes have 2v1 but that looks like that's gone
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I think bottas had a chance there to get along side Hamilton - but he looked cautious and then became under thread to leclerc.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
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I think bottas had a chance there to get along side Hamilton - but he looked cautious and then became under thread to leclerc.
Colour me shocked.

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Great start for Max, but a big part of me thinks that Lewis is less interested in getting his elbows out as much as he used to and was almost happy to allow Max to have that, rather than possibly crash. Lewis seems more patient these days.
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I did think Hamilton would have covered the inside but maybe he felt the move was done anyway
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