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Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 3:56 pm
by Mayhem
Tufty wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:54 am
mikeyg123 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:51 am
I have to say I'm beginning to get attached to Mazepin. Never a dull moment he always gives good value.
And in two weeks it's Monaco 
Oh f...
Yeah, we'll be getting at least one red flag there. Part of me hopes he utterly totals the car in FP1 so we have a clear track for most of the weekend.
Lmfao
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:48 pm
by F1Tyrant
pokerman wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:05 pm
I think the Mercs are looking good, no doubt there's more to come from Red Bull but surprisingly for me the Merc is looking quicker.
It's very suprising given how important downforce is on this track. I thought Red Bull were the team with aerodynamic supremacy hampered by a poor engine until now.
I'm sure Verstappen will now get pole by half a second.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:52 pm
by Option or Prime
Clarky wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:03 pm
Verstappen had a broken front wing in FP1 and another in FP2.
Failing to set a time in second practice after going off. He does seem to struggle with staying on the track doesn't he. That's two off track overtakes he has had to give back and several 'lost laps' in practice as well as the lost fastest lap at Portugal last week.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:56 pm
by F1Tyrant
Option or Prime wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 4:52 pm
He does seem to struggle with staying on the track doesn't he. That's two off track overtakes he has had to give back and several 'lost laps' in practice as well as the lost fastest lap at Portugal last week.
Dare I say poor Verstappen is feeling the heat. I can't imagine he'd be overdriving if Hamilton had retired following his crash at Imola.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 pm
by WHoff78
F1Tyrant wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 4:56 pm
Option or Prime wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 4:52 pm
He does seem to struggle with staying on the track doesn't he. That's two off track overtakes he has had to give back and several 'lost laps' in practice as well as the lost fastest lap at Portugal last week.
Dare I say poor Verstappen is feeling the heat. I can't imagine he'd be overdriving if Hamilton had retired following his crash at Imola.
Little early for that, only practice after all. Practice is the time to make mistakes. And for all the track limits discussion around Max I think it is more that griping about the misfortune of the three incidents in quick succession than anything else. I'm happy to be prooved wrong but each are slightly different, and so think that things could just as easily even up, as opposed to being an indication that Max is feeling the heat. Makes for interesting viewing though. Think this next qualy will be more important for Max than Hamilton though.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:41 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
Siao7 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:40 am
UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:17 am
Not something of a big news but Mazepin is 1.2 secs slower than Schumacher.
I think the opposite would make it bigger news!
I'm noticing more that Kubica was 2.2 seconds behind Giovinazzi. Many say (and are right to) that Giovinazzi isn't that good, but I really struggle to understand why Kubica is still involved and even in the position to be a reserve driver. He seems to be that slow that I would question if he really is capable of handling the cars close to their actual ability. Is harsh of me to say this, but I personally think he looked more off the pace on average in 2019 than Mazepin has been so far this year.
Nothing stops his comeback from being impressive given what he's been through, but I still wonder why he takes part in practice. It isn't like he's a driver who needs to be learning for a chance of a seat in the future and I also can't really see how he can help develop the team many better than Kimi.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:00 pm
by Flash2k11
WHoff78 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 pm
F1Tyrant wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 4:56 pm
Option or Prime wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 4:52 pm
He does seem to struggle with staying on the track doesn't he. That's two off track overtakes he has had to give back and several 'lost laps' in practice as well as the lost fastest lap at Portugal last week.
Dare I say poor Verstappen is feeling the heat. I can't imagine he'd be overdriving if Hamilton had retired following his crash at Imola.
Little early for that, only practice after all. Practice is the time to make mistakes. And for all the track limits discussion around Max I think it is more that griping about the misfortune of the three incidents in quick succession than anything else. I'm happy to be prooved wrong but each are slightly different, and so think that things could just as easily even up, as opposed to being an indication that Max is feeling the heat. Makes for interesting viewing though. Think this next qualy will be more important for Max than Hamilton though.
I think Red Bull might be carrying a bit of sand that they picked up in Bahrain.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:15 pm
by Siao7
TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 7:41 pm
Siao7 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:40 am
UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:17 am
Not something of a big news but Mazepin is 1.2 secs slower than Schumacher.
I think the opposite would make it bigger news!
I'm noticing more that Kubica was 2.2 seconds behind Giovinazzi. Many say (and are right to) that Giovinazzi isn't that good, but I really struggle to understand why Kubica is still involved and even in the position to be a reserve driver. He seems to be that slow that I would question if he really is capable of handling the cars close to their actual ability. Is harsh of me to say this, but I personally think he looked more off the pace on average in 2019 than Mazepin has been so far this year.
Nothing stops his comeback from being impressive given what he's been through, but I still wonder why he takes part in practice. It isn't like he's a driver who needs to be learning for a chance of a seat in the future and I also can't really see how he can help develop the team many better than Kimi.
Yes, it is almost sad... He has no chance of getting a seat again.
In other news, Mazepin only 0.4 behind MSCJr, so that's big news already!
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:45 pm
by mikeyg123
If Perez can finish lap 2 in the top 4 he could get a great result here if he can try and push a one stop.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:02 pm
by F1Tyrant
mikeyg123 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:45 pm
If Perez can finish lap 2 in the top 4 he could get a great result here if he can try and push a one stop.
Perez on a one-stop vs Verstappen and Hamilton on a two-stop would be a great battle. Would Red Bull pull team orders or would they be happy with a Perez-Verstappen-Hamilton top 3?
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:06 pm
by F1_Ernie
mikeyg123 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:45 pm
If Perez can finish lap 2 in the top 4 he could get a great result here if he can try and push a one stop.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hug ... deceptive/
Perez matched both Mercedes drivers on his soft long run.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:33 am
by UnlikeUday
Source - Imgur
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Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 11:06 am
by TheGiantHogweed
Sky still doing their usual and saying that we havea great 2 way battle between Hamilton and Verstappen for qualifying. It can be said that it is pretty unlikely that Bottas will be much of a challenge for the race, but it will very likely be a 3 way fight for qualifying. Sky too often seem to ignore Bottas is there even in areas where he is usually pretty strong. I think the top 3 positions are going to be pretty hard to predict for qualifying and could be in any order.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 11:11 am
by UnlikeUday
FP3 done:
Source - Imgur
Another way to see FP3 results:
Source - Imgur
Raikkonen on dope?
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 11:37 am
by Clarky
Anyone know if Hamilton was on brand new softs like Verstappen was?
Hamilton had already been running the softs and Verstappen the mediums but Im not sure if the situations were equal.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:24 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
williams need better dampening for that mirror then!
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:30 pm
by F1Tyrant
Not sure what all the fuss is about this Tsunoda fella.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:32 pm
by schumilegend
F1Tyrant wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:30 pm
Not sure what all the fuss is about this Tsunoda fella.
LOL exactly... Looks like another Sato
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:32 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
crofty interrupting team radio the straight to adverts between quali sessions? I thought sky didn't stuff adverts here. Missed what tsunoda was saying too because of crofty and they cut out right in the middle of him entering the weigh bridge...
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:36 pm
by F1Tyrant
schumilegend wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:32 pm
Looks like another Sato
Button vs Sato was one of the most one sided match ups in F1 history. Tsunoda already well on the way.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:37 pm
by purchville
if only Q3 could be as interesting and as mixed up as Q1.
Not holding my breath. Get ready for the HAM/VER/BOT show. Ho hum
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:38 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
F1Tyrant wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:30 pm
Not sure what all the fuss is about this Tsunoda fella.
I think He's been rather over rated, especially in the first race. That car looked 3rd or 4th best in Bahrain. He underperformed a little in qualifying and basically gained positions due to vettel being out of place, Alonso retiring, his team mate crashing and Stroll having a bad stop. To be realistic, he likely will have finished that race no higher or actually a position lower than he started. And since then, he's actually looked worse than that. That first race seemed to get too many people's hopes up. I don't believe gasly is that good, but Tsunoda is not even remotely close to him (yet), which given his reputation isn't very good.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:39 pm
by Jezza13
TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:32 pm
crofty interrupting team radio the straight to adverts between quali sessions? I thought sky didn't stuff adverts here. Missed what tsunoda was saying too because of crofty and they cut out right in the middle of him entering the weigh bridge...
It was Tsunoda whining about his car.
Could be just me but he seems to be a coming across as a bit of a Prima Donna.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:41 pm
by JN23
Verstappen’s lap time
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:42 pm
by F1Tyrant
Incredible lap from Max.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:43 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
it is q2, byt crofty constantly going on in practice about hamilton vs verstappen for pole. Now it is verstappen - bottas -hamilton and hamilton is over 7 tenths behind.
I'm thinking verstappen is likely going to get pole, but not sure who it will be between hamilton and bottas to complete the front row.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:44 pm
by F1Tyrant
Chandok saying Hamilton saving tyres for the race. Pull the other one mate...
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:46 pm
by F1Tyrant
Perhaps Sir Lewis is giving himself a chance to set a time on the mediums. Risky though.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:52 pm
by lucifers
hamilton improved on a used set, that cant be right can it
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:55 pm
by F1_Ernie
Hamilton should have backed out surely.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:55 pm
by JN23
lucifers wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:52 pm
hamilton improved on a used set, that cant be right can it
Hamilton did an out lap at the end of q1 and came straight back into the pits. I wonder if those are the used tyres he’s just set his fastest q2 time on. Odd otherwise.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:55 pm
by F1Tyrant
lucifers wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:52 pm
hamilton improved on a used set, that cant be right can it
Massive strategic blunder if he did unless he plans to 3-stop.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:56 pm
by UnlikeUday
lucifers wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:52 pm
hamilton improved on a used set, that cant be right can it
Maybe the Mercedes strategy is start on those softs & make early pit stops for mediums which they're faster on.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:56 pm
by Schumacher forever#1
purchville wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:37 pm
if only Q3 could be as interesting and as mixed up as Q1.
Not holding my breath. Get ready for the HAM/VER/BOT show. Ho hum
It's far better than a Ham/Bot show we've had for the past few years, don't know what there is to complain about.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:58 pm
by Banana Man
F1Tyrant wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:30 pm
Not sure what all the fuss is about this Tsunoda fella.
He certainly needs to tone it down a little verbally. A little passion and aggression is all well and good but he’s pushing his luck a bit. Alonso rubbed people up the wrong way at times and he was a double WDC.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:04 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
come on crofty, hamilton did not have to slow down there.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:04 pm
by F1Tyrant
What a mega lap from Hamilton with slowing down for yellows.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:05 pm
by JN23
TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 2:04 pm
come on crofty, hamilton did not have to slow down there.
I generally like them both and crofty more than most but my word, they don’t have talk some rubbish at times. There was no yellow flag signs there.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:05 pm
by F1Tyrant
TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 2:04 pm
come on crofty, hamilton did not have to slow down there.
Did look a little like a lift on the onboard but maybe not.
Re: 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:07 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
just can't decide the top 3 now they look so close.