Re: 2021 Portugal Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 3:36 pm
Hamilton showing his experience.FormulaFun wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:35 pmI can't wait for the day one of these STUPID last lap pit stops massively backfires
yip his lap got deletedTheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:39 pmverstappen got it, but do track limits count when not doing an overtake, if it is for points? He clearly went both wheels off the kerb.
Lap should be deleted.TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:39 pmverstappen got it, but do track limits count when not doing an overtake, if it is for points? He clearly went both wheels off the kerb.
Asphalt_World wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:44 pmIf nothing else comes from this last year or so, we need to keep this circuit on the calendar.
FormulaFun wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:35 pmI can't wait for the day one of these STUPID last lap pit stops massively backfires
I thought it was pretty boring to be honest. I like more punishing tracks like Imola, with gravel traps and narrow tracks.Asphalt_World wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:44 pmIf nothing else comes from this last year or so, we need to keep this circuit on the calendar.
Pertty sure they mean literally what they said. Not the result of it, but the pitstop itself. Such as a long pit stop totally messsing the result up, resulting in it being 100% pointless - not so literally though as they likely will still get a points finish.wire2004 wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:50 pmFormulaFun wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:35 pmI can't wait for the day one of these STUPID last lap pit stops massively backfires
Like today.
I was thinking the same, imagine the mechanics bodge it under pressure and it a wheel nut doesn't get done tight enough.......Game over and massive egg-on-face for everyone involved.wire2004 wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:50 pmFormulaFun wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:35 pmI can't wait for the day one of these STUPID last lap pit stops massively backfires
Like today.
It’s okay but I wouldn’t say anything particularly incredible. If we were going to keep anything, for me it’d be back to back Bahrain/Sakhir.Asphalt_World wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:44 pmIf nothing else comes from this last year or so, we need to keep this circuit on the calendar.
Doing what Mercedes did with bottas wasn't wrong, they just did it on the wrong lap. He could have backed off enough to not be at risk of getting caught by perez, and not give Red bull any warning to pit Verstappen. Bottas will have then had the last lap to do it, and it was too late for Verstappen. Mercedes simply pittid bottas 1 lap too early.-K- wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:52 pmNot a great move by Mercedes there. Perez getting fastest lap wasn’t going to harm them, Bottas stopping gave Max the free stop which now means that Max has 1 point less of a deficit to overhaul than would otherwise have been the case.
Mazepin... were the timing screens correct in saying he was a minute back? And a penalty, deary me.
Good to see Schumacher finish ahead of something that wasn’t a Haas rather than just leading home a Haas procession at the back all year.
Not really strange, Perez is legendarily soft on his tyres as demonstrated in this very race.UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:59 pmCheco had consistent pace on mediums when compared to softs. His RB car wasn't able to fire up softs or keep them in the right temp for continuous laps. Quite a strange thing as he was quicker & consistent on mediums.
If they really need to spice up the spicing up, at least only give an extra point for fastest lap to the bottom 10 cars in the championship. It's simply silly the way it is done now.Asphalt_World wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:36 pmJust about to say the same thing. It's pathetic. Imagine Lewis has a puncture as he did in Silverstone last year. Just such a stupid rule. I get no pleasure from watching it and it's nothing to do with the race.
100% agree.Fiki wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 4:02 pmIf they really need to spice up the spicing up, at least only give an extra point for fastest lap to the bottom 10 cars in the championship. It's simply silly the way it is done now.Asphalt_World wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:36 pmJust about to say the same thing. It's pathetic. Imagine Lewis has a puncture as he did in Silverstone last year. Just such a stupid rule. I get no pleasure from watching it and it's nothing to do with the race.
Also, isn't it strange that drivers exceed track limits all race long, but when they try to spice up the spicing up of the spicing up, it doesn't count.
Please, can we have F1 back?
Yeah not much thought given there, the criticism of Bottas is simply if Hamilton had not passed him then Max could have won the race, has a #2 driver ever been treated so nicely, they even enabled him to get an extra point at the risk of Hamilton's main rival, Max, getting it instead.
Asphalt_World wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:44 pmIf nothing else comes from this last year or so, we need to keep this circuit on the calendar.
Whilst I don't want a fastest lap point at all, if it had to be done before something like the final 10 or 15 laps of the race, it should stop a lot of this silliness we're seeing at the end of the races.wolfticket wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 4:09 pmIt would be fairer to have a cut off for fastest laps, something like laps remaining or from last pit stop.
At the moment it rewards cars that are slowest of the group of cars they are competing with and happen to have a decent gap to the rest.
What I meant is when on mediums, he was lapping as fast as the top 3, even when the tyres were quite old. When he came on softs, he was slower. Somehow, RB as a car didn't like the tarmac of this track when compared to Merc. Am sure Barcelona will be closer, if not better for RB.Flash2k11 wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 4:01 pmNot really strange, Perez is legendarily soft on his tyres as demonstrated in this very race.UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:59 pmCheco had consistent pace on mediums when compared to softs. His RB car wasn't able to fire up softs or keep them in the right temp for continuous laps. Quite a strange thing as he was quicker & consistent on mediums.
Red Bull was the slightly better package this weekend but Verstappen made too many (small) mistakes yesterday and today. Yet, Perez was miles behind him.UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 4:24 pmWhat I meant is when on mediums, he was lapping as fast as the top 3, even when the tyres were quite old. When he came on softs, he was slower. Somehow, RB as a car didn't like the tarmac of this track when compared to Merc. Am sure Barcelona will be closer, if not better for RB.Flash2k11 wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 4:01 pmNot really strange, Perez is legendarily soft on his tyres as demonstrated in this very race.UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:59 pmCheco had consistent pace on mediums when compared to softs. His RB car wasn't able to fire up softs or keep them in the right temp for continuous laps. Quite a strange thing as he was quicker & consistent on mediums.
Wouldn't say that, i'd have Mercedes in front of Red Bull here, but not to the point where the drivers couldn't make the difference.Paolo_Lasardi wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 4:28 pmRed Bull was the slightly better package this weekend but Verstappen made too many (small) mistakes yesterday and today. Yet, Perez was miles behind him.UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 4:24 pmWhat I meant is when on mediums, he was lapping as fast as the top 3, even when the tyres were quite old. When he came on softs, he was slower. Somehow, RB as a car didn't like the tarmac of this track when compared to Merc. Am sure Barcelona will be closer, if not better for RB.Flash2k11 wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 4:01 pmNot really strange, Perez is legendarily soft on his tyres as demonstrated in this very race.UnlikeUday wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:59 pmCheco had consistent pace on mediums when compared to softs. His RB car wasn't able to fire up softs or keep them in the right temp for continuous laps. Quite a strange thing as he was quicker & consistent on mediums.
How on Earth...