2020 Sakhir Grand Prix Race Thread

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:01 am

Tyres available with the drivers for the race:

Source - Imgur

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:19 pm

Well, if yesterday's F2 race was anything to go by, this circuit could produce some excellent racing. Perhaps it will give the organisers thoughts about running on this circuit each year.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:54 pm

If the F1 is anything like today's F2 I'm not sure my blood pressure will take it.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:23 pm

Pit strategy prediction:

Source - Imgur

Mort Canard · Post by **Mort Canard** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:40 pm

I wonder if Max and Charles can use their soft tires to advantage on the start over the mediums of Valtteri and George????

schumilegend · Post by **schumilegend** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:01 pm

Could be a race for Verstappen to win...Bottas clearly feeling the pressure because he knows if Russel beats him convincingly here his stock is done. I expect him to have a messy race..Russel may not have the best race just because of his relative inexperience and quite frankly his race pace isn't as good as his quali pace...This maybe Verstappen's best chance to win

Gonzales · Post by **Gonzales** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:13 pm

schumilegend wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:01 pm
Could be a race for Verstappen to win...
...This maybe Verstappen's best chance to win

That's not an outcome Mercedes would want just before Hamilton's contract negotiations

Fiki · Post by **Fiki** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:13 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:19 pm
Well, if yesterday's F2 race was anything to go by, this circuit could produce some excellent racing. Perhaps it will give the organisers thoughts about running on this circuit each year.

Any idea whether my DRS-allergy is going to knock me out or not? (I don't mean the F2 race was one, you clearly enjoyed it.)

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:33 pm

We can expect the backmarkers to be lapped by lap 20-25 or so!!!!!!!!! Blue flag chaos will be as prominent as drama in this race!

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:33 pm

Fiki wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:13 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:19 pm
Well, if yesterday's F2 race was anything to go by, this circuit could produce some excellent racing. Perhaps it will give the organisers thoughts about running on this circuit each year.
Any idea whether my DRS-allergy is going to knock me out or not? (I don't mean the F2 race was one, you clearly enjoyed it.)

DRS could make today's race into one of those they had in Monza during the 60's. However, at least there was plenty of passing and near passes without the use of DRS.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:41 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:33 pm

Fiki wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:13 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:19 pm
Well, if yesterday's F2 race was anything to go by, this circuit could produce some excellent racing. Perhaps it will give the organisers thoughts about running on this circuit each year.
Any idea whether my DRS-allergy is going to knock me out or not? (I don't mean the F2 race was one, you clearly enjoyed it.)
DRS could make today's race into one of those they had in Monza during the 60's. However, at least there was plenty of passing and near passes without the use of DRS.

Did downforce and aero wake even exist back then?

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:10 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:41 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:33 pm

Fiki wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:13 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:19 pm
Well, if yesterday's F2 race was anything to go by, this circuit could produce some excellent racing. Perhaps it will give the organisers thoughts about running on this circuit each year.
Any idea whether my DRS-allergy is going to knock me out or not? (I don't mean the F2 race was one, you clearly enjoyed it.)
DRS could make today's race into one of those they had in Monza during the 60's. However, at least there was plenty of passing and near passes without the use of DRS.
Did downforce and aero wake even exist back then?

Very little, but my point was that in the two F2 races, there were passes without the need for DRS, despite all the DRS enabled passing.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:11 pm

So, what odds a Russell dnf and Aitken getting Williams first point of the season?!!!!!

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:14 pm

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Verstappen should learn how to drive

( And Vettel is the highest Ferrari !)

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jimmyj · Post by **jimmyj** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:14 pm

Aye carumba what a start!

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:14 pm

*inaudible*!

Schumacher forever#1 · Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:15 pm

Leclerc you absolute clown

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:16 pm

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Maybe all the "experienced" drivers are being nice to Russell ?

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Schumacher forever#1 · Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:16 pm

This is what Vettel means about Leclerc. Crazy to pull a move like that.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:17 pm

not sure if Perez or leclerc is to blame for that

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:17 pm

Hilarious and disappointing opening to the Grand Prix. Gutting to lose Verstappen from this race already, who kicks the wall knowing a chance for a victory has slipped.

Yeh, I'd be "tiddled" too if I were Max.

jimmyj · Post by **jimmyj** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:18 pm

Let's see how Bottas does vs GR on this restart!

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:18 pm

Tricky one. Leclerc looking to be a little quick into the corner, but Perez can't expect to have nobody down the inside of him at T4, lap 1.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:18 pm

My take is that Leclerc is an idiot and he's just ruined the race, however the stewards will do nothing.

It's worked out perfectly for Russell now.

Bacus · Post by **Bacus** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:18 pm

Leclerc had it coming from a long time with those inside late brakings. It all converge into this incident. Hope he learned his lessons

Shame, now its all gonna be a showdown between Russel and Bottas. No others drivers left to challenge Merc. Sucks

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:19 pm

I thought it was Leclerc’s fault at first for going up the inside and outbraking himself but now wondering if Perez should have give him some more space?

Wtf was Verstappen doing?!

Great start from Russell, another thing some have said he has struggled with so far in his career that he’s nailed this weekend. Safety car restart is another challenge here though.

Pest44 · Post by **Pest44** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:19 pm

Leclerc was never stopping that car in time for that corner. Quite a few mistakes from him in the races this season

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:20 pm

Hmm, not sure who to blame most. But anyway, leclerc played a big part in it. If Leclerc is concidered to be at fault, that is basically the 6th retirement he's caused this season...

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:20 pm

It's almost like Max thought that grey gavel was solid ground. He seemed to power onto it thinking he'd make the corner.

cmberry20 · Post by **cmberry20** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:20 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:17 pm
not sure if Perez or leclerc is to blame for that

Well if last week is anything to go by (Stroll & Kyviat) then it's 100% Leclercs fault

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:21 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:18 pm
Tricky one. Leclerc looking to be a little quick into the corner, but Perez can't expect to have nobody down the inside of him at T4, lap 1.

Perez did leave a bit of room but Leclerc basically ran into the back of him. He was locked up and out of control.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:21 pm

The fact George is still asking what buttons to press for the restart, just shows what a difficult situation this is for him, even if it's clearly the best car on the grid.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:21 pm

cmberry20 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:20 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:17 pm
not sure if Perez or leclerc is to blame for that
Well if last week is anything to go by (Stroll & Kyviat) then it's 100% Leclercs fault

yea, i'm certainly thinking it is more leclerc now.

Schumacher forever#1 · Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:21 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:19 pm
I thought it was Leclerc’s fault at first for going up the inside and outbraking himself but now wondering if Perez should have give him some more space?

Wtf was Verstappen doing?!

Great start from Russell, another thing some have said he has struggled with so far in his career that he’s nailed this weekend. Safety car restart is another challenge here though.

Watch Perez' POV for the whole incident. Leclerc would have been completely blindsighted from Perez's viewpoints. No way he could predict the Ferrari car at the apex.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:22 pm

Schumacher forever#1 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:16 pm
This is what Vettel means about Leclerc. Crazy to pull a move like that.

He just sends it al the time.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:22 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:20 pm
It's almost like Max thought that grey gavel was solid ground. He seemed to power onto it thinking he'd make the corner.

It's a strange one - though he claims there was nothing he could do.

mpls2 · Post by **mpls2** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:23 pm

What's with these Racing Point Drivers ?
bang goes his chance of racing for Redbull next year !

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:23 pm

Schumacher forever#1 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:21 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:19 pm
I thought it was Leclerc’s fault at first for going up the inside and outbraking himself but now wondering if Perez should have give him some more space?

Wtf was Verstappen doing?!

Great start from Russell, another thing some have said he has struggled with so far in his career that he’s nailed this weekend. Safety car restart is another challenge here though.
Watch Perez' POV for the whole incident. Leclerc would have been completely blindsighted from Perez's viewpoints. No way he could predict the Ferrari car at the apex.

Fair. I do think Leclerc is mainly at fault for that, he’s so quick but does have a habit of getting involved in crashes.

To be investigated after the race.

A_Game_A_Day · Post by **A_Game_A_Day** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:24 pm

Bottas' night got a whole lot easier when Verstappen & LeClerc went out. Only has to concentrate on Russell at least now.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:25 pm

Invade wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:22 pm

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:20 pm
It's almost like Max thought that grey gavel was solid ground. He seemed to power onto it thinking he'd make the corner.
It's a strange one - though he claims there was nothing he could do.

Yes, from the onboard, he runs wide and then gives the throttle a bit of a blip, almost like he thought he could get a bit of power on. Then hits the gravel and has no control.