Alonso - A young driver ?

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Alonso - A young driver ?

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At 39, and 311 starts, how did Alonso get a "young driver test".

Seemingly it was Todt's own decision, and it has upset a lot of teams in the pit lane.

Another farce.

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Wasn't he Benjamin Button's team mate for a couple of years?
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Greenman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm
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At 39, and 311 starts, how did Alonso get a "young driver test".

Seemingly it was Todt's own decision, and it has upset a lot of teams in the pit lane.

Another farce.

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Young at heart! :lol:

Well, obviously a laughable decision. No more billionaires sons or famous names = no interest of F1 in promoting new talent.

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It's a bit ridiculous. Do these tests actually help young drivers? I note in the other car Renault are running Zhao rather than the better performing Lundgaard or Piastri.

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I suspect the primary purpose of these tests is for mid-field and lower teams who are short of cash to collect some from the backers of young drivers...

With Buemi & Kubica returning as well this test might be different

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Greenman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm
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At 39, and 311 starts, how did Alonso get a "young driver test".

Seemingly it was Todt's own decision, and it has upset a lot of teams in the pit lane.

Another farce.

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Yeah I find it ridiculous how they are able to bend the rules for him, a driver use to privilege let's say.

That being said I'd rather him come back at full speed rather than being hampered by lack of track time.
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It's a bit ridiculous. Do these tests actually help young drivers? I note in the other car Renault are running Zhao rather than the better performing Lundgaard or Piastri.
That's another touchy subject, the worse performing driver, Zhou, gets to test, I'd be looking at the Chinese market for that one.
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pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:43 pm
Greenman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm
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At 39, and 311 starts, how did Alonso get a "young driver test".

Seemingly it was Todt's own decision, and it has upset a lot of teams in the pit lane.

Another farce.

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Yeah I find it ridiculous how they are able to bend the rules for him, a driver use to privilege let's say.

That being said I'd rather him come back at full speed rather than being hampered by lack of track time.
He has had a lot of track time in Bahrain last month.

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Rockie wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:52 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:43 pm
Greenman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm
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At 39, and 311 starts, how did Alonso get a "young driver test".

Seemingly it was Todt's own decision, and it has upset a lot of teams in the pit lane.

Another farce.

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Yeah I find it ridiculous how they are able to bend the rules for him, a driver use to privilege let's say.

That being said I'd rather him come back at full speed rather than being hampered by lack of track time.
He has had a lot of track time in Bahrain last month.
Was that a young driver test?
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pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Rockie wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:52 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:43 pm
Greenman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm
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At 39, and 311 starts, how did Alonso get a "young driver test".

Seemingly it was Todt's own decision, and it has upset a lot of teams in the pit lane.

Another farce.

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Yeah I find it ridiculous how they are able to bend the rules for him, a driver use to privilege let's say.

That being said I'd rather him come back at full speed rather than being hampered by lack of track time.
He has had a lot of track time in Bahrain last month.
Was that a young driver test?
Nope he along with Renault were giving permission to drive to get up to speed.

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tootsie323 wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:19 pm
Wasn't he Benjamin Franklin's team mate for a couple of years?
Fixerated!!! :lol:

It's been a while.
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Rockie wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:04 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Rockie wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:52 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:43 pm
Greenman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm
.

At 39, and 311 starts, how did Alonso get a "young driver test".

Seemingly it was Todt's own decision, and it has upset a lot of teams in the pit lane.

Another farce.

.
Yeah I find it ridiculous how they are able to bend the rules for him, a driver use to privilege let's say.

That being said I'd rather him come back at full speed rather than being hampered by lack of track time.
He has had a lot of track time in Bahrain last month.
Was that a young driver test?
Nope he along with Renault were giving permission to drive to get up to speed.
Oh that was a 2008 car which I believe is allowed, however the young driver test it seems has caused some reaction in the paddock.
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pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Rockie wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:04 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Rockie wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:52 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:43 pm

Yeah I find it ridiculous how they are able to bend the rules for him, a driver use to privilege let's say.

That being said I'd rather him come back at full speed rather than being hampered by lack of track time.
He has had a lot of track time in Bahrain last month.
Was that a young driver test?
Nope he along with Renault were giving permission to drive to get up to speed.
Oh that was a 2008 car which I believe is allowed, however the young driver test it seems has caused some reaction in the paddock.
Not saying the test he did with the 2yr old car is not allowed, just saying he's had time in the car, driving at the young drivers test is just wrong and Horner's reply has got it right.

Also the test allows teams to run parts for next year if I'm not mistaken.

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Rockie wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:24 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Rockie wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:04 pm
pokerman wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Rockie wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:52 pm


He has had a lot of track time in Bahrain last month.
Was that a young driver test?
Nope he along with Renault were giving permission to drive to get up to speed.
Oh that was a 2008 car which I believe is allowed, however the young driver test it seems has caused some reaction in the paddock.
Not saying the test he did with the 2yr old car is not allowed, just saying he's had time in the car, driving at the young drivers test is just wrong and Horner's reply has got it right.

Also the test allows teams to run parts for next year if I'm not mistaken.
Just saying that they consider running in a long outdated car gives no benefit to the team, however Alonso running parts for next year in a current car and then calling it a young drivers test, you have to wonder why the FIA signed off on that.
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Marketing. Publicity. Viewing figures. Having such an iconic driver hit the ground running in 2021 makes for much better news than waiting for him to get up to speed.
Whilst it makes a bit of a mockery of the Young Driver test I, for one, won't complain, if Alonso is immediately competitive from the first 2021 race.
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Buemi and Vips driving for Red Bull next week too. Do Red Bull have any intention of Buemi ever driving for them/AT again?

But Sainz (and Vettel I assume) aren’t allowed too, because they’ve driven an F1 car this year I believe. Kubica therefore can drive a car.

It’s becoming a bit farcical imo. Either have a definition of what a young driver is or make it so anyone can drive.

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JN23 wrote: 94 user_id=296676]
Buemi and Vips d[/list]riving for Red Bull next week too. Do Red Bull have any intention of Buemi ever driving for them/AT again?

But Sainz (and Vettel I assume) aren’t allowed too, because they’ve driven an F1 car this year I believe. Kubica therefore can drive a car.

It’s becoming a bit farcical imo. Either have a definition of what a young driver is or make it so anyone can drive.
Is that just in a race or would anyone who stands in for practice also fall foul of this? I can see it being rebadged Young or New or Otherwise-Not-Raced-In-An-F1-Car-This-Year ... driver test.
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tootsie323 wrote:
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JN23 wrote: 94 user_id=296676]
Buemi and Vips d[/list]riving for Red Bull next week too. Do Red Bull have any intention of Buemi ever driving for them/AT again?

But Sainz (and Vettel I assume) aren’t allowed too, because they’ve driven an F1 car this year I believe. Kubica therefore can drive a car.

It’s becoming a bit farcical imo. Either have a definition of what a young driver is or make it so anyone can drive.
Is that just in a race or would anyone who stands in for practice also fall foul of this? I can see it being rebadged Young or New or Otherwise-Not-Raced-In-An-F1-Car-This-Year ... driver test.
I assume it’s just if you’ve raced as otherwise Kubica wouldn’t be allowed but Alfa have just announced he’ll be driving for them next week.

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