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pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:03 pm
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Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:43 am
https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/30/pie ... rand-prix/

I think this is sensible. It would be too rushed even if Grosjena was ok to get him ready this quick. I just hope he makes it to the final race.
Fittipaldi's not that good, he took advantage of a series in decline that was still receiving top level super license points.
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I'll add a couple of things here.

First to Uday, the FIA mandate that a driver be able to exit the cockpit (in ideal conditions) within 5 seconds, so there must be a quick release on everything anchoring the driver in the car.

Second, with the list posted by Mort Canard, I've rewatched every one of those crashes and they all would have taken either a car or a barrier to the head bar one. Grosjean is a clear-cut example. Peroni would have literally faceplanted a tyre wall from above. Makino and Leclerc would have taken an F1/2 car to the head. Both side on but not low enough that the old raised cockpit sides would have been sufficient to save them. I can't see Gelael in the Hubert crash though. Did you mean Correa? He might have done worse without the halo, but it's hard to get a good camera angle to tell. Still, I'd say this could have been the worst period in recent motorsport history for deaths. Just off the top of my head, this decade we have Simoncelli, Wheldon, Wilson, Bianchi, Hubert and then we'd have added Grosjean, Makino, Leclerc and Peroni, with perhaps Correa too.
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pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:05 pm
Harpo wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:00 pm
To the encyclopedists : When was the last time a F1 car took fire because of a crash or a collision (so not the Benetton pit stop) ? I can't remember.
Gerhard Berger's Ferrari in Italy late 90's perhaps, Berger received some nasty burns.
That was in 89.

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pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:05 pm
Harpo wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:00 pm
To the encyclopedists : When was the last time a F1 car took fire because of a crash or a collision (so not the Benetton pit stop) ? I can't remember.
Gerhard Berger's Ferrari in Italy late 90's perhaps, Berger received some nasty burns.
Thanks. Berger's accident took place at Imola in 1989. So the last one is an already old one. Thirty years without a car taking fire. I could remember cars burning after an accident from the '60s to the late '80s and had no memories of any from then. Now I know why.
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pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:03 pm
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:43 am
https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/30/pie ... rand-prix/

I think this is sensible. It would be too rushed even if Grosjena was ok to get him ready this quick. I just hope he makes it to the final race.
Fittipaldi's not that good, he took advantage of a series in decline that was still receiving top level super license points.
Ironically the series declined because it wasn't awarded top level licence points.

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Harpo wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:23 pm
pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:05 pm
Harpo wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:00 pm
To the encyclopedists : When was the last time a F1 car took fire because of a crash or a collision (so not the Benetton pit stop) ? I can't remember.
Gerhard Berger's Ferrari in Italy late 90's perhaps, Berger received some nasty burns.
Thanks. Berger's accident took place at Imola in 1989. So the last one is an already old one. Thirty years without a car taking fire. I could remember cars burning after an accident from the '60s to the late '80s and had no memories of any from then. Now I know why.
They’ve been a few
Stroll - Tuscany 2020
Diniz - Argentina 1996
Bruni - Spa in 2004

There have been others which weren’t the result of collision but neither were they refuelling accidents:
Kovalainen - Abu Dhabi 2010
Heidfeld - Hungary (I think) 2011
Senna - Spain 2012
Fisichella - Brazil 2003
Magnussen - Forget where, in the pit lane 2016
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:24 pm
pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:03 pm
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:43 am
https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/30/pie ... rand-prix/

I think this is sensible. It would be too rushed even if Grosjena was ok to get him ready this quick. I just hope he makes it to the final race.
Fittipaldi's not that good, he took advantage of a series in decline that was still receiving top level super license points.
Ironically the series declined because it wasn't awarded top level licence points.
Perhaps they threatened to do that before finally doing it, I believe Fittipladi got 35 points for winning the series.

These were the top standings:-

1. Pietro Fittipaldi 259pts
2. Matevos Isaakyan 215pts
3. Alfonso Celis Jnr 204pts
4. Rene Binder 201pts
5. Roy Nissany 201pts
6. Egor Orudzhev 198pts*

*He missed the last round which was strange because he was in contention for the title with there being 2 races at each round.

Such a strong array of talent, there was just 10 full time drivers, even then 2 of them missed the last round, Fittipaldi won 6 of the 18 races.

Perennial back marker Tatiana Calderon joined the series at the final round and she managed to finish 5th and 3rd, only 1 retirement in both races so they were not fluke results.

You might consider it very much a back door cheat into F1, Fittipaldi otherwise had no chance of gaining the necessary points, so the Grandson of a F1 legend makes his GP debut.
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:22 pm
pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:05 pm
Harpo wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:00 pm
To the encyclopedists : When was the last time a F1 car took fire because of a crash or a collision (so not the Benetton pit stop) ? I can't remember.
Gerhard Berger's Ferrari in Italy late 90's perhaps, Berger received some nasty burns.
That was in 89.
Yeah I didn't have much clue as to what year it was. :)
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Banana Man wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:54 pm
Harpo wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:23 pm
pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:05 pm
Harpo wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:00 pm
To the encyclopedists : When was the last time a F1 car took fire because of a crash or a collision (so not the Benetton pit stop) ? I can't remember.
Gerhard Berger's Ferrari in Italy late 90's perhaps, Berger received some nasty burns.
Thanks. Berger's accident took place at Imola in 1989. So the last one is an already old one. Thirty years without a car taking fire. I could remember cars burning after an accident from the '60s to the late '80s and had no memories of any from then. Now I know why.
They’ve been a few
Stroll - Tuscany 2020
Diniz - Argentina 1996
Bruni - Spa in 2004

There have been others which weren’t the result of collision but neither were they refuelling accidents:
Kovalainen - Abu Dhabi 2010
Heidfeld - Hungary (I think) 2011
Senna - Spain 2012
Fisichella - Brazil 2003
Magnussen - Forget where, in the pit lane 2016
I was thinking more of crash induced infernos were a driver was at risk.
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pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:15 pm
mikeyg123 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:24 pm
pokerman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:03 pm
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:43 am
https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/30/pie ... rand-prix/

I think this is sensible. It would be too rushed even if Grosjena was ok to get him ready this quick. I just hope he makes it to the final race.
Fittipaldi's not that good, he took advantage of a series in decline that was still receiving top level super license points.
Ironically the series declined because it wasn't awarded top level licence points.
Perhaps they threatened to do that before finally doing it, I believe Fittipladi got 35 points for winning the series.

These were the top standings:-

1. Pietro Fittipaldi 259pts
2. Matevos Isaakyan 215pts
3. Alfonso Celis Jnr 204pts
4. Rene Binder 201pts
5. Roy Nissany 201pts
6. Egor Orudzhev 198pts*

*He missed the last round which was strange because he was in contention for the title with there being 2 races at each round.

Such a strong array of talent, there was just 10 full time drivers, even then 2 of them missed the last round, Fittipaldi won 6 of the 18 races.

Perennial back marker Tatiana Calderon joined the series at the final round and she managed to finish 5th and 3rd, only 1 retirement in both races so they were not fluke results.

You might consider it very much a back door cheat into F1, Fittipaldi otherwise had no chance of gaining the necessary points, so the Grandson of a F1 legend makes his GP debut.
I believe they scored it lower than F3 and GP3 which funnelled all the talent away from it. By the time Piquet got there it was indeed a cheap 35 points.

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When he realised he had to escape from the cockpit, he had to even detach the HANS which I don't know if its easy to do so in quick response. But thank God, everything played to Grosjean's hands (keeping the crash aside)!
I would be happy to look it up again, but from memory I believe the helmet is hooked up to the HANS, but the HANS itself is kept in place by the safety belts over the shoulders. So unlocking the harness should allow a driver to get out with his helmet on his head.

One of my first thoughts was how long Grosjean would be able to breathe, as the drivers don't get medical air in their helmets anymore.
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Detaching the HANS from the helmet is clumsy at the best of times. I usually attach/detach it with it off my head.

As Fiki says the HANS is only attached the the helmet and sits over your shoulders and down your chest. It's held in place with the belts. Purpose of it is to limit how far the neck can extend forward in the event of a front impact, instead it sort of forces the head to curl downwards, thus limiting the chance of basal fractures.

Attached a few images of my own helmet and HANS

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The red lines are where the harness goes over, and they are just physically pressed against you by force of tightening the harness. No physical connection to the car, the HANS essentially just extends the harness support and restraint to the neck.

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That's the HANS post on the helmet

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and that is how the HANS attached to the helmet, it clicks into place and is a bit of a faff to get back off as it has to align an be pushed down to unclick at the same time, you can manage it but you wouldn't detach it fast in a panic.

Only real difference between my HANS and an F1 HANS is about £5000 (carbon fibre and custom made as opposed to off the shelf). The attachment posts will be the same as they are a single FIA mandated design. So whilst F1's might be made of titanium as opposed to high carbon steel - the design is the same.

From the images it appears Grosjean still has his HANS on as he exits the car.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyTeDaiUL6s

Palmer done a detailed analysis of Grosjean's incident. It still doesn't change how hard it is to believe that he managed to get himself out in time.

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https://www.racefans.net/2020/12/03/why ... r-of-luck/

A lot more information behind the crash now. Also mentioning that his helmet actually wasn't damaged at all. It was just the pull off tab that had melted.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:37 pm
https://www.racefans.net/2020/12/03/why ... r-of-luck/

A lot more information behind the crash now. Also mentioning that his helmet actually wasn't damaged at all. It was just the pull off tab that had melted.
That actually makes a lot of sense. The visor wouldn't just be a conventional plastic.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRDWL39Hkt0

This is one reason why I have always liked Grosjean. Out of the car (even if not instantly calm on the radio), he always comes across as so happy, even when talking about negative things. Not that he intends to look like this all the time, but he does so often look happy, and it shows more than normal in this video.


While I'm not sure that anyone other than himself actually "saved" his life, they all did help and he really shows his respect.

I do however feel slightly uneasy about how close they get due to the situation the world is in, but i suppose F1 and other sports are exempt from the stricter rules. Although it sometimes makes the masks seem a bit pointless.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRDWL39Hkt0

This is one reason why I have always liked Grosjean. Out of the car (even if not instantly calm on the radio), he always comes across as so happy, even when talking about negative things. Not that he intends to look like this all the time, but he does so often look happy, and it shows more than normal in this video.


While I'm not sure that anyone other than himself actually "saved" his life, they all did help and he really shows his respect.

I do however feel slightly uneasy about how close they get due to the situation the world is in, but i suppose F1 and other sports are exempt from the stricter rules. Although it sometimes makes the masks seem a bit pointless.
Like Vettel, Grosjean is a much better person outside of the car. I really hope he ends up in FE because he's an exciting driver and it would be fun to keep watching him.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:11 pm
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRDWL39Hkt0

This is one reason why I have always liked Grosjean. Out of the car (even if not instantly calm on the radio), he always comes across as so happy, even when talking about negative things. Not that he intends to look like this all the time, but he does so often look happy, and it shows more than normal in this video.


While I'm not sure that anyone other than himself actually "saved" his life, they all did help and he really shows his respect.

I do however feel slightly uneasy about how close they get due to the situation the world is in, but i suppose F1 and other sports are exempt from the stricter rules. Although it sometimes makes the masks seem a bit pointless.
Like Vettel, Grosjean is a much better person outside of the car. I really hope he ends up in FE because he's an exciting driver and it would be fun to keep watching him.
FE is losing two huge manufacturers. He may want to look to America or perhaps even sportcar racing.
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Asphalt_World wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:20 am
mikeyg123 wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:11 pm
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRDWL39Hkt0

This is one reason why I have always liked Grosjean. Out of the car (even if not instantly calm on the radio), he always comes across as so happy, even when talking about negative things. Not that he intends to look like this all the time, but he does so often look happy, and it shows more than normal in this video.


While I'm not sure that anyone other than himself actually "saved" his life, they all did help and he really shows his respect.

I do however feel slightly uneasy about how close they get due to the situation the world is in, but i suppose F1 and other sports are exempt from the stricter rules. Although it sometimes makes the masks seem a bit pointless.
Like Vettel, Grosjean is a much better person outside of the car. I really hope he ends up in FE because he's an exciting driver and it would be fun to keep watching him.
FE is losing two huge manufacturers. He may want to look to America or perhaps even sportcar racing.
Yes but I don't watch either of those hence me wanting to see him move across to FE.

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https://www.racefans.net/2020/12/04/i-p ... n-inferno/

And now Grosjean's own description of what he went through to get out the car. Seems like he was initially going to wait before he realised how serious it was with the fire that he didn't instantly notice. I think the replays and especially slow motion ones give us the wrong impression of the crash.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:16 pm
https://www.racefans.net/2020/12/04/i-p ... n-inferno/

And now Grosjean's own description of what he went through to get out the car. Seems like he was initially going to wait before he realised how serious it was with the fire that he didn't instantly notice. I think the replays and especially slow motion ones give us the wrong impression of the crash.
Wow, powerful description there. What a lucky guy he was.

Also, it seems to confirm that it was fuel (apart from the battery fire), I guess when the car broke in two, the fuel hose got loose or something? As I can't believe the bladder would be penetrated.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6GrOIe3cvI

The first comment on this video makes me feel a bit upset really. But I think it is true. I honestly think more people will like Grosjean now because they have seen more of his personality and got to know more about him. Basically because of what could have easily been a fatal crash. Most of the time, those that just watch the races and get an impression of what is shared on the odd social media and his team radio will get an awful impression of him. I've always known that outside the car he is one of the most likeable on the grid. I just feel it is a shame that this near death experience for him and everyone witnessing it makes them want to find out more about him. At least it seems this way with many.

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Grosjean has reviled his injuries.



https://www.racefans.net/2020/12/10/gro ... ight-hand/



Does look like it must have been awful a week back.

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Warning - another update. His hands somehow look worse now they are starting to heel a bit better but that is pretty normal.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/romain-gr ... and-burns/

Him targetting a return for Abu Dhabi now looks like it never could have been realistic. Looks like it must be painful to grip onto anything or flex his hand!

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Yowch! Nice to see he's recovering well, but that still looks awfully nasty.
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A very detailed animation showing Grosjean's crash. Just shows the Halo was indeed a very good decision.
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Still think the most amazing part of it is when you watch back the crash full speed and he gets out of it. the fire and the split car just looks a wreck. but at least this clip shows how well it protects the driver. Where will they based this footage on? Worked it all out from the world feed or did Grosjean's onboard survive it?. I guess it could be that they can't show the original footage or something.

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https://racer.com/2021/02/23/grosjean-g ... at-barber/

he's back in a race car. about 1:30 in, is an interview. a few eye opening surprises for him at his first indy car test. good to see him in a race car

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https://www.racefans.net/2021/03/05/fia ... stigation/


Certainly is interesting how much this incident is going to change things. It is unfortunately as if they need terrible things to happen to learn from.

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In terms of the wing mirrors, why not adopt road car tech and have a feed for the driver of his rear mounted camera? That would be more stable and allow fewer blind spots than the traditional mirrors.
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In terms of the wing mirrors, why not adopt road car tech and have a feed for the driver of his rear mounted camera? That would be more stable and allow fewer blind spots than the traditional mirrors.
I completely agree. Since all F1 cars have airbox mounted TV cameras, why not give each driver access to his car's video feed real time for rear view, adding any additional cameras (in each sidepod) needed for side coverage.

I hope the need for side-view mirrors in road cars disappear in the near future, and F1 can lead the way.

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Grosjean's helmet from Sakhir:

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Wow! Thanks for posting. That's pretty neat to see, and a testament to both the heat of the fire and the strength of the helmet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_z_k1pTlpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1NLp1LqiIs

Many may think that he wasn't a great driver when he was in his last season, but he was still better than many think he was, simply because his reputation made people look for mistakes - and also see his bad luck as mistakes by him. He was the sort of driver that when in the right sort of car, he really was quick. As a fan of Bottas, I think I would actually say that if they were both in cars they were very comfortable with, Grosjean quite possibly will have had had higher outright speed. He wasn't bad at all against Kimi when Kimi was pretty strong back then.

It is interesting that after such an awful incident that he's actually going to be able to driver the Mercedes. If he didn't have his incident, he probably wouldn't be getting the chance. But to be fair, his incident is a horrible way to remember your last F1 drive or even anything strongly related to it. This will be a much nicer way for him to remember the sport.

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I am wondering why Romain is getting this test. Certainly, he is way down the waiting line for a seat in the Merc for the next few years. Even if Merc decided to replace both Lewis and Valtteri for next year, I don't see Romain getting a drive in a Merc. Mercedes already have Stoffel Vandoorne and Nick De Vries as test drivers who, I would think would be much more what Brackley would want than an aging Romain Grosjean.

Mercedes could get any driver they want that is not specifically under contract for the upcoming season.
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It's a courtesy to ensure his final F1 memory isn't of a fireball.

Also an easy PR move, of course.
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Tufty wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 6:28 pm
It's a courtesy to ensure his final F1 memory isn't of a fireball.

Also an easy PR move, of course.
Ok, I'll buy that.
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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 5:53 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_z_k1pTlpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1NLp1LqiIs

Many may think that he wasn't a great driver when he was in his last season, but he was still better than many think he was, simply because his reputation made people look for mistakes - and also see his bad luck as mistakes by him. He was the sort of driver that when in the right sort of car, he really was quick. As a fan of Bottas, I think I would actually say that if they were both in cars they were very comfortable with, Grosjean quite possibly will have had had higher outright speed. He wasn't bad at all against Kimi when Kimi was pretty strong back then.

It is interesting that after such an awful incident that he's actually going to be able to driver the Mercedes. If he didn't have his incident, he probably wouldn't be getting the chance. But to be fair, his incident is a horrible way to remember your last F1 drive or even anything strongly related to it. This will be a much nicer way for him to remember the sport.
Mort Canard wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:42 pm
Tufty wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 6:28 pm
It's a courtesy to ensure his final F1 memory isn't of a fireball.

Also an easy PR move, of course.
Ok, I'll buy that.
This is pretty much what I thought too. And I certainly think it is more reasonable now due to the circumstances.

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It's a wonderful gesture. Can't wait to see him in the Merc.
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Mort Canard wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 6:07 pm
I am wondering why Romain is getting this test. Certainly, he is way down the waiting line for a seat in the Merc for the next few years. Even if Merc decided to replace both Lewis and Valtteri for next year, I don't see Romain getting a drive in a Merc. Mercedes already have Stoffel Vandoorne and Nick De Vries as test drivers who, I would think would be much more what Brackley would want than an aging Romain Grosjean.

Mercedes could get any driver they want that is not specifically under contract for the upcoming season.
It’s a PR move, Romain won’t be anywhere near a Mercedes seat for any actual competitive action.
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