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Hopefully some of the predicted showers arrive

If it's dry there's no overtaking opportunities

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Shouldn't RP keep Hulk on standby incase Lance isn't 100% this weekend?
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I am surprised that they didn't use the track variant with the first-corner chicane. I guess passing is probably possible at the T5 hairpin, but otherwise it looks like it will be restricted to DRS on the main straight.

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UnlikeUday wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:50 am
Shouldn't RP keep Hulk on standby incase Lance isn't 100% this weekend?
Sounds like they are: https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/stat ... 51008?s=12

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JN23 wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:12 pm
UnlikeUday wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:50 am
Shouldn't RP keep Hulk on standby incase Lance isn't 100% this weekend?
Sounds like they are: https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/stat ... 51008?s=12
That also takes you to a post by Lance saying he is feeling 100% and tested negative :lol:

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Zazu wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am
Hopefully some of the predicted showers arrive

If it's dry there's no overtaking opportunities
Nope, the weather likes to tease us by either raining 2 miles from the circuit or an hour after the race finishes. Come Sunday afternoon it’ll be bone dry.

No doubt Crofty will mention the threat of rain, every time a vaguely dark cloud appears in the distance.
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Petrov as a steward. Honestly, what are they thinking?
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Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23 pm
Petrov as a steward. Honestly, what are they thinking?
Doesn't he know the rules sufficiently to decide on reported problems?
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Fiki wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:29 pm
Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23 pm
Petrov as a steward. Honestly, what are they thinking?
Doesn't he know the rules sufficiently to decide on reported problems?
Yes, but has rather opposing views on F1's attempt to promote equality. I'm sure there are plenty of other ex drivers available, most with more experience than him.
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Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:33 pm
Fiki wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:29 pm
Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23 pm
Petrov as a steward. Honestly, what are they thinking?
Doesn't he know the rules sufficiently to decide on reported problems?
Yes, but has rather opposing views on F1's attempt to promote equality. I'm sure there are plenty of other ex drivers available, most with more experience than him.
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Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:33 pm
Fiki wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:29 pm
Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23 pm
Petrov as a steward. Honestly, what are they thinking?
Doesn't he know the rules sufficiently to decide on reported problems?
Yes, but has rather opposing views on F1's attempt to promote equality. I'm sure there are plenty of other ex drivers available, most with more experience than him.
Shouldn't believing in equality encourage us to work with those who aren't (yet) convinced? That is, as long as they are qualified to do the job they are asked to do.
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Fiki wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:44 pm
Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:33 pm
Fiki wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:29 pm
Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23 pm
Petrov as a steward. Honestly, what are they thinking?
Doesn't he know the rules sufficiently to decide on reported problems?
Yes, but has rather opposing views on F1's attempt to promote equality. I'm sure there are plenty of other ex drivers available, most with more experience than him.
Shouldn't believing in equality encourage us to work with those who aren't (yet) convinced? That is, as long as they are qualified to do the job they are asked to do.
I'd rather people had to have changed their views on equality before getting paid by an organisation that is trying hard to promote it. If he can work in the sport and take money, despite his views, then why should he bother to think about his views?
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No DAS tomorrow for Mercedes as part of some preparations for next year.

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Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:58 pm
Fiki wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:44 pm
Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:33 pm
Fiki wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:29 pm
Asphalt_World wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23 pm
Petrov as a steward. Honestly, what are they thinking?
Doesn't he know the rules sufficiently to decide on reported problems?
Yes, but has rather opposing views on F1's attempt to promote equality. I'm sure there are plenty of other ex drivers available, most with more experience than him.
Shouldn't believing in equality encourage us to work with those who aren't (yet) convinced? That is, as long as they are qualified to do the job they are asked to do.
I'd rather people had to have changed their views on equality before getting paid by an organisation that is trying hard to promote it. If he can work in the sport and take money, despite his views, then why should he bother to think about his views?
He already has thought about his views, as explained in the article. Rome wasn't built in a day, and thought is free. I doubt I would find it very convincing if he were to declare he had changed his mind simply in order to get the job. And I have to add I don't know whether the drivers are asked to do it, or whether they have to apply.

To me, the first and most important requirement is for the driver steward to offer a driver's viewpoint to the other stewards, regardless of who the driver under investigation is, and to help them work towards a correct verdict.
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If the quotes by Petrov are accurate, I don’t see anything which should preclude him from being a race steward. I find it rather alarming that there is an increasing trend of people who, when presented with an opposing view, immediately demand censorship and a denial of certain rights/privileges.

I don’t agree with his slightly strange view on people coming out as gay but he hasn’t said anything hateful. The only quotes I can find from him regarding BLM seem perfectly reasonable. He sees the t-shirts as superfluous and in his country men only kneel before God or to propose. Whether you agree with him or not I don’t see the issue with that.
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Banana Man wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:05 pm
If the quotes by Petrov are accurate, I don’t see anything which should preclude him from being a race steward. I find it rather alarming that there is an increasing trend of people who, when presented with an opposing view, immediately demand censorship and a denial of certain rights/privileges.

I don’t agree with his slightly strange view on people coming out as gay but he hasn’t said anything hateful. The only quotes I can find from him regarding BLM seem perfectly reasonable. He sees the t-shirts as superfluous and in his country men only kneel before God or to propose. Whether you agree with him or not I don’t see the issue with that.
But it depends on what the view is. If someone was blatantly and openly racist (I'm not saying Petrox is), then I don't think they should be giving him a high profile job for an F1 race as it contravenes the message F1 is trying to promote. Petrov has said some fairly dodgy things for all to hear and it strikes me that with so many people who could do the job, it's odd F1 chose him.
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Asphalt_World wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:49 am
Banana Man wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:05 pm
If the quotes by Petrov are accurate, I don’t see anything which should preclude him from being a race steward. I find it rather alarming that there is an increasing trend of people who, when presented with an opposing view, immediately demand censorship and a denial of certain rights/privileges.

I don’t agree with his slightly strange view on people coming out as gay but he hasn’t said anything hateful. The only quotes I can find from him regarding BLM seem perfectly reasonable. He sees the t-shirts as superfluous and in his country men only kneel before God or to propose. Whether you agree with him or not I don’t see the issue with that.
But it depends on what the view is. If someone was blatantly and openly racist (I'm not saying Petrox is), then I don't think they should be giving him a high profile job for an F1 race as it contravenes the message F1 is trying to promote. Petrov has said some fairly dodgy things for all to hear and it strikes me that with so many people who could do the job, it's odd F1 chose him.
The things he has said and the interpretation of dodgy is a bit of a grey area and I don’t think people should lose their jobs over grey areas. If he’d said something prejudice along the lines of Lewis not belonging in F1 and he should go and play basketball, or whatever - that would obviously be grounds not to give him the job.

Discussions like this remind me of a Miss Teen America contestant a few years ago, who was asked for her views on gay marriage, during the pageant. I think she was from one of the Southern states and her answers was basically along the lines of ‘it should just be between a man and a woman’. Now I would completely disagree with her and it caused a bit of a stir in the media but good for her IMO. She was asked a question and gave a sincere answer based on her own moral views, which is fair enough.

I would say places like Russia and certain southern states need to be more progressive in their views but it doesn’t mean that their citizens are immoral. This can better be achieved through inclusion rather than isolation IMO.
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Due to Sainz just radioing his team to say it's like Tokyo Drift, I'm guessing it's a little slippery! (Which is a good thing.)
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Banana Man wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:58 pm
Zazu wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am
Hopefully some of the predicted showers arrive

If it's dry there's no overtaking opportunities
Nope, the weather likes to tease us by either raining 2 miles from the circuit or an hour after the race finishes. Come Sunday afternoon it’ll be bone dry.

No doubt Crofty will mention the threat of rain, every time a vaguely dark cloud appears in the distance.
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There goes the Renault mechanics’ lunch break.
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Just switched on practice. What a great looking circuit!

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Doesn't seem like this will be a circuit that allows much overtaking. Turns three and five are the only places that provide much opportunity, and the DRS area doesn't end in a turn that requires a lot of braking.
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Somehow feel this circuit will punish mistakes!
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65 lap times deleted in FP1, with at least one for every driver but Magnussen. Qualy could be fun.

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Stroll and Verstappen - 5 place grid drops each ?????????

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Stroll is a crazy driver..

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Well, Max had no way to be 100% sure that Stroll was going to back off after a flying lap, plus, even if Stroll did back off at that corner, Max's fast lap would have been compromised by taking the inside line at that corner. Therefore, I have no idea why Max made such a large assumption that sticking his nose up the inside at T1 would be safe. Stroll can do as many fast laps as he likes.
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Max is an angry driver, brilliantly fast, but angry with it.
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Doesn't matter if Stroll would've made another fast lap, you have a car 80% alongside, you should leave some space. It is a common situation in races and the car on the exterior it leaves space usually.
Anyway it should've been more cooperation for both of them.

Not its silly for both of them to be influenced for the races by this.

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He was not 80% alongside.

Once Stroll crossed the line and didn't back off at all down the straight, Max should have easily realised that Stroll wasn'#'t backing off for a slow lap.
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60/40 Verstappen's fault - Stroll was on the racing line - Max was an idiot.

The BBC called them 5-year olds.

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At list 50% he was. And it was a close trailing for the whole straight line, Stroll should've been aware of him, especially if getting closer to the corner Max goes on inside (so disappearing from mirrors).

Max couldn't assume that, doing 1 single hot lap is very common.
It was easier to assume that the one in front doing its hot lap let goes the one behind, which is very common in FPs.

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Christian Horner has basically made Max out to be the problem, although not intentionally.

Horner said that Max wanted a tow (something Stroll doesn't have to do) and that Max was assuming Stroll wasn't going to go for a second lap.

This, 1 front wheel slightly alongside the rear wheel of the car in front, and therefore you have the right of way, it stupid.
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Horner has now said that Max didn't know Lance was going for a second lap. Exactly Christian!
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This commitment to not having the usual full weekends at the moment is not what I expected :lol:

Pretty stupid from both of them.

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Its all reducing to 'cooperation', at a situation which is often seen in practice, they didn't cooperate.

For the alongside situation, it was just not the tip of the car, he was going half the straight with half the car alongside, now its common sense to leave -some- room.

The point is both have their share their guit because its a case of cooperation, and a first time instance with this corner. It'd be silly for any of them to be compromised by this in the race.

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I wish Verstappen didn’t use the r-word on the radio afterwards. He can swear all he wants and call Stroll an idiot if he wants, but not use that word.

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