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Alienturnedhuman
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Kilometres led

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At the Belgian Grand Prix, Hamilton surpassed Schumacher as the driver who has led for the most kilometres.

Inevitably, the social media comments to the F1 post about it were flooded with the usual "With that car it is very easy to get that statistic" - which don't really need answering because obviously a front running car is needed to be at the front consistently, and Schumacher didn't make significant contributions to his large number in the Jordan, the 2005 Ferrari or any of his Mercs.

What caught my eye though was that Nico Rosberg didn't feature in the top 10 list. Alonso was 10th with a 1/3rd of Hamilton's total, and given the three major periods of Hamilton's career (Mclaren, Rosberg-Merc and Bottas Merc) - I would have expected Rosberg to have more than a 1/3rd of Hamilton's total, especially given that the Mercedes period has seen the highest proportion of Hamilton having front running equipment.

It turns out there is a really useful website where you can find the data out:

https://www.statsf1.com/en/statistiques ... e/kms.aspx

Where you can select a start race and end race and it will tell you how many km were led by each driver during this period - or if left blank, over the entirety of F1 history.

Rosberg was 12th on that list, with just under a 3rd of Hamilton's total. This meant - over their entire careers - Alonso and Rosberg had led for only 2/3rds of Hamiltons total - which includes all of Alonso's Renault and Ferrari days.

Bottas is very low down, with 10% of Hamilton's career total - in fact, if you add together Alonso, Kovalainen, Button, Rosberg and Bottas, their careers are 1000km short of Hamilton.

How does that compare to Schumacher? That's a dangerous question. It depends on whether or not you include Piquet or not. If you do, then Schumacher is 1000km behind his team mates, if you don't, then he is 6000km ahead of them. One thing that should be noted is that Hamilton's team mates have 4WDC titles between them, so to include Piquet would make that equal for the pair.

Vettel is also interesting, he's led 50% more km than all of his team mates combined - however Kimi is the only WDC winner in that list, and obviously Charles is very early in his career - but it is still a very impressive statistic not to mention that he led for 5 times as many kilometres compared to Mark Webber during 2010-2013.

I don't think that this is necessarily a metric that can allow for any meaningful direct performance comparison. However I do feel that it demonstrates - again - the difference that a top driver brings to a top team, even when that team is dominant.

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Re: Kilometres led

Post by Badgeronimous »

Interesting stat, but I agree that its limited in what it tells you.

Although compared to Hamilton or Vettel periods of dominance,! Schumachers dominant era was far more strategic with refueling. Often races were all over the place until the last pit stops and running long periods in 2nd or 3rd could eventually translate to an easy win - depending on strategy.

In the last decade the cars (at the front) have generally qualified and stayed in order far more often than the refueling era.

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Re: Kilometres led

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Red Bulls 'dominance' is nothing like the Schumacher or Mercedes eras. End of 2013 the car was on another level but for the majority of the time the races were somewhat competivie

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Zazu wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:44 pm
Red Bulls 'dominance' is nothing like the Schumacher or Mercedes eras. End of 2013 the car was on another level but for the majority of the time the races were somewhat competivie
The Red Bull and Ferrari dominance were pretty similar with Ferrari enjoying one extra winning year. Both had two years with an absolutely dominant car and two years with a car that was competitive with the other top runners. The Ferrari in 2001 is the odd one out. Personally I believe that car had a reliability advantage and Schumacher gave it a pace advantage.

This is Merc's 7th straight year of winning both championships and at least 4 of those they have been totally untouchable.

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For trying to compare laps led against team mates, would you not need to split out the laps led during their time together directly to see anything meaningful. Otherwise it would be skewed by the length of the team mates careers (and much more to the cars they had while racing for separate teams). Not suggesting you do that, because that would obviously involve a lot more time and effort. For example the comparison of Hamilton and Alonso in 2007 (1,448 vs 963) has more significance than the comparison over their careers (24,000 vs 8,000).

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