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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:51 pm 
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I've visited the forum quite a lot today due the news and each time I've been logged out despite my browser having my login details saved and usually not having to do so. Not sure if this is linked to new advert software (?) or if I've just been a bit unlucky.


Its looking like the age old issue of forum.planet-f1.com logging different cookies to forum.planetf1.com has finally been 'dealt' with by redirecting one to the other, however this will cause an issue with saved passwords attributed to the former. I can't provide a definitive answer because, basically, I simply don't know for sure, but logging in and saving your login details again is probably the way to go.


I do that every time and it keeps asking me for password every time I refresh. Oh well!


Ditto, its each visit for me, was resolved for a time but back now.

Same here, I have to login every time I visit the forum.

Don't know if it's more annoying than the ads.


same issue with the log in and the Ad banners are pretty annoying. take up A LOT of space on mobile.

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 3:21 pm 
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Mod Blue wrote:
From a Mod point of view, can I add:

The issue with being logged out after every refresh is affecting me too.
The adverts taking up so much real estate on the screen, and them loading after the forum, thus moving everything down are infuriating. I will not be browsing the forum on my mobile going forward.

These issues in particular are going to affect our ability to properly moderate the forum on race days. I fear it may be practically impossible.


:thumbup:

Plus, for me at least, the adds loading at slightly different speeds each time often means I go to click on something and just as I click, the page fairy cakes so I click on something totally different!

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:02 pm 
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Feedback has been passed on to the techies, keep it coming!Thanks everyone

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 12:52 pm 
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not to pile on, just saying i too have to log in each time, and about 30% of the screen on the right is nothing, or ads


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Thought it was just me with the login issue, but clearly not.

The ads are a tad annoying, but I guess you can't complain too much about them on a free forum?

Anyway, just in case you needed a count of people having login issues, you can add another one to the list :)


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:57 pm 
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SteveW wrote:
Thought it was just me with the login issue, but clearly not.

The ads are a tad annoying, but I guess you can't complain too much about them on a free forum?

Anyway, just in case you needed a count of people having login issues, you can add another one to the list :)


I 'resolved' my issue with ads on the forum, but can imagine it frustrating for most, and still limits the site to 3/4 width.

Count me to the list of people with login issues if this helps for further feedback as well.

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I've reiterated the login issues, but please keep 'piling on' with these complaints, we need to see when things change. Repeat complaints will be helpful in this regard, so please don't feel you're overreporting things. The more we hear, the more we can guide the techies.

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:08 pm 
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Ok, as requested, still having to log in each time, adverts taking up an incredible amount of space and they don't load instantly, leading to the screen shifting a few times over a couple of seconds, often leading to me clicking in the wrong place!

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:14 am 
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P-F1 Mod wrote:
I've reiterated the login issues, but please keep 'piling on' with these complaints, we need to see when things change. Repeat complaints will be helpful in this regard, so please don't feel you're overreporting things. The more we hear, the more we can guide the techies.


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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:38 pm 
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Right, from time to time I'm getting a huge Stay Alert UK Corona Virus advert around the forum, but not only is it across the top and down the right, but also down the left. This makes the forum even smaller. Then, when I click to go somewhere in the forum, it goes and the normal annoying adverts return!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:06 pm 
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Asphalt_World wrote:
Right, from time to time I'm getting a huge Stay Alert UK Corona Virus advert around the forum, but not only is it across the top and down the right, but also down the left. This makes the forum even smaller. Then, when I click to go somewhere in the forum, it goes and the normal annoying adverts return!!!!!


I get this. literally i'd say over 50% of my screen is adverts right now. It's very annoying if you don't have lightning fast broadband as they load at different speeds so the forum moves around all over the place.


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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 6:27 am 
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I too, like everbody else am experiencing the same issues with the screen moving about at random intervals due to the time it takes to load some of the adverts. Some of them seem to be far worse than others; i've had the top banner take over 8 seconds to load the 888poker advert (and more on that in a bit). My internet connection is far from slow and my hardware is more than perfunctory so to have slow loading ads, of random sizes moving the page about while I am attempting to navigate it is the kind of thing that drives people to find ways to totally disable adverts (rendering them pointless really) or find a new place to post.

I've tested the moving page behaviour in every major Windows browser (Chrome, Firefox, Opera, the 'new' Edge broswer, the original Edge browser and also an old copy of IE) and it's identical in all of them so this isnt a particular browser issue, its a random sized ad taking ages to load for no apparent reason issue. Not good enough i'm afraid.

Secondly, the size of the ad space compared to the actual forum space is a joke right now



Thats a 1920 x 1080 display and for me to only be able to see first 6/7 topics on the page with greatly reduced width compared to just how much advert I can see is overdoing it a touch in my opinion; again, I come here to talk about F1, not to watch adverts, so stuff like this makes me want to circumvent them or not come here at all.

Now we get onto the actual adverts themselves, and i've got a pretty big problem with the content of some of them (and i've looked at the site using a UK based VPN so only been served ads for the UK, it sounds like there are some bad ones for people in other countries too). This is a forum where the age requirement to post here is 16, so why are we being served ads for:

Virtual Sex Games:




Gambling:
Spoiler (click to show)


And then there are adverts that are advertising plain malicious software:
Spoiler (click to show)


Immoral at best, possibly illegal in some countries.

You'll also notice in all of those screenshots that I am not logged in.... alas, I to am a victim of being unable to stay logged in for any length of time.

All in all, the only way I could recommend anybody to use the forum right now is with an adblocker firmly enabled... do adverts tastefully and make them fit in with the forum structure properly and people will leave them on..... use eye raping gigantic banners and sidebars while squashing the actual content and people will block the lot.

Edit: I've had to change the images to links, they are over 1280px wide and the forum wont let me embed those.

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 9:44 am 
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P-F1 Mod wrote:
I've reiterated the login issues, but please keep 'piling on' with these complaints, we need to see when things change. Repeat complaints will be helpful in this regard, so please don't feel you're overreporting things. The more we hear, the more we can guide the techies.


Thanks for this Mod, appreciate your work :thumbup:

The having to log in every time I visit the site is annoying but I can live with it but the adverts are an absolute pain. Like AW, I'm finding that I am clicking the wrong link because the ads take too long to load. I am also not impressed with gambling ads considering the negative impact gambling can have on people's lives.

I'd say the actual forum is about 66% of my web browser at the moment.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:35 am 
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The adverts are even worse for me today. I've got a rap around NHS banner at the top and going down both sides, another advert underneath that at the top and another banner on the right hand side. If I scroll to the top of the page none of the forum is actually displayed. It's literally just a page of ads.


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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 8:03 pm 
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Flash2k11 wrote:
I too, like everbody else am experiencing the same issues with the screen moving about at random intervals due to the time it takes to load some of the adverts. Some of them seem to be far worse than others; i've had the top banner take over 8 seconds to load the 888poker advert (and more on that in a bit). My internet connection is far from slow and my hardware is more than perfunctory so to have slow loading ads, of random sizes moving the page about while I am attempting to navigate it is the kind of thing that drives people to find ways to totally disable adverts (rendering them pointless really) or find a new place to post.

I've tested the moving page behaviour in every major Windows browser (Chrome, Firefox, Opera, the 'new' Edge broswer, the original Edge browser and also an old copy of IE) and it's identical in all of them so this isnt a particular browser issue, its a random sized ad taking ages to load for no apparent reason issue. Not good enough i'm afraid.

Secondly, the size of the ad space compared to the actual forum space is a joke right now



Thats a 1920 x 1080 display and for me to only be able to see first 6/7 topics on the page with greatly reduced width compared to just how much advert I can see is overdoing it a touch in my opinion; again, I come here to talk about F1, not to watch adverts, so stuff like this makes me want to circumvent them or not come here at all.

Now we get onto the actual adverts themselves, and i've got a pretty big problem with the content of some of them (and i've looked at the site using a UK based VPN so only been served ads for the UK, it sounds like there are some bad ones for people in other countries too). This is a forum where the age requirement to post here is 16, so why are we being served ads for:

Virtual Sex Games:




Gambling:
Spoiler (click to show)


And then there are adverts that are advertising plain malicious software:
Spoiler (click to show)


Immoral at best, possibly illegal in some countries.

You'll also notice in all of those screenshots that I am not logged in.... alas, I to am a victim of being unable to stay logged in for any length of time.

All in all, the only way I could recommend anybody to use the forum right now is with an adblocker firmly enabled... do adverts tastefully and make them fit in with the forum structure properly and people will leave them on..... use eye raping gigantic banners and sidebars while squashing the actual content and people will block the lot.

Edit: I've had to change the images to links, they are over 1280px wide and the forum wont let me embed those.


Remember, adverts are often different for different users depending on their internet history, cookies etc. Just sayin'!!!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 8:43 pm 
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Flash2k11 wrote:
I too, like everbody else am experiencing the same issues with the screen moving about at random intervals due to the time it takes to load some of the adverts. Some of them seem to be far worse than others; i've had the top banner take over 8 seconds to load the 888poker advert (and more on that in a bit). My internet connection is far from slow and my hardware is more than perfunctory so to have slow loading ads, of random sizes moving the page about while I am attempting to navigate it is the kind of thing that drives people to find ways to totally disable adverts (rendering them pointless really) or find a new place to post.

I've tested the moving page behaviour in every major Windows browser (Chrome, Firefox, Opera, the 'new' Edge broswer, the original Edge browser and also an old copy of IE) and it's identical in all of them so this isnt a particular browser issue, its a random sized ad taking ages to load for no apparent reason issue. Not good enough i'm afraid.

Secondly, the size of the ad space compared to the actual forum space is a joke right now



Thats a 1920 x 1080 display and for me to only be able to see first 6/7 topics on the page with greatly reduced width compared to just how much advert I can see is overdoing it a touch in my opinion; again, I come here to talk about F1, not to watch adverts, so stuff like this makes me want to circumvent them or not come here at all.

Now we get onto the actual adverts themselves, and i've got a pretty big problem with the content of some of them (and i've looked at the site using a UK based VPN so only been served ads for the UK, it sounds like there are some bad ones for people in other countries too). This is a forum where the age requirement to post here is 16, so why are we being served ads for:

Virtual Sex Games:




Gambling:
Spoiler (click to show)


And then there are adverts that are advertising plain malicious software:
Spoiler (click to show)


Immoral at best, possibly illegal in some countries.

You'll also notice in all of those screenshots that I am not logged in.... alas, I to am a victim of being unable to stay logged in for any length of time.

All in all, the only way I could recommend anybody to use the forum right now is with an adblocker firmly enabled... do adverts tastefully and make them fit in with the forum structure properly and people will leave them on..... use eye raping gigantic banners and sidebars while squashing the actual content and people will block the lot.

Edit: I've had to change the images to links, they are over 1280px wide and the forum wont let me embed those.


Remember, adverts are often different for different users depending on their internet history, cookies etc. Just sayin'!!!!!!!!!


This is true but hardly any of the adverts I’ve seen on here have any relation to anything I’ve searched on my laptop/phone. For example right now I have an advert for industrial leak testing.


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 5:09 am 
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Asphalt_World wrote:

Remember, adverts are often different for different users depending on their internet history, cookies etc. Just sayin'!!!!!!!!!


Hence why I used a VPN (as noted in my post), so any results would be untainted by any of my own cookies. Using that to identify from a different country certainly does produce different results, although not always of the good kind. They are certainly being served based on location identified by your IP though.

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So it seems we have three issues:
1) Ads
- a) loading causing the page to move and makes you miss what you're trying to click
- b) being just damn annoying in general
2) Reduced surface area of the actual forum
3) Login required all the time.

An adblocker fixes 1a and 1b, but does someone have any tricks for rectifying 2 and 3?

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Far worse for me today too, screen jumping about all over the place due to the ads.

I'm trying to condition myself back to dial-up days, so i click something then wait 30 seconds before I click anything else at the moment, because if I don't, I end up clicking an ad I don't want to. :lol:

Not sure I could use an adblocker as I'm viewing the forum from a work laptop that is pretty well locked down with regard to software etc that can be installed on it.

Oh, and also still have to log in every time I refresh page after a few minutes of inactivity.


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I've just installed an ad blocker on my Chromebook and it's made it usable again! I still need to log in each time I navigate away from the forum.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 7:01 pm 
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Covalent wrote:
So it seems we have three issues:
1) Ads
- a) loading causing the page to move and makes you miss what you're trying to click
- b) being just damn annoying in general
2) Reduced surface area of the actual forum
3) Login required all the time.

An adblocker fixes 1a and 1b, but does someone have any tricks for rectifying 2 and 3?


2 can be fixed with some css trickery (pretty much the same way I was reskinning the forum a few years ago using Stylish, which was effectively a frontend for a UserStyle.css file for the forum) but its a fairly convoluted process that can be easily broken on the fly by anyone with access to the html/css files for the site. There are more advanced ways to go about changing the way websites display themselves but at that point the work required far outweighs the benefit of gaining back 200 pixels of space.

3 can't be fixed user side at all afaik

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Flash2k11 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
So it seems we have three issues:
1) Ads
- a) loading causing the page to move and makes you miss what you're trying to click
- b) being just damn annoying in general
2) Reduced surface area of the actual forum
3) Login required all the time.

An adblocker fixes 1a and 1b, but does someone have any tricks for rectifying 2 and 3?


2 can be fixed with some css trickery (pretty much the same way I was reskinning the forum a few years ago using Stylish, which was effectively a frontend for a UserStyle.css file for the forum) but its a fairly convoluted process that can be easily broken on the fly by anyone with access to the html/css files for the site. There are more advanced ways to go about changing the way websites display themselves but at that point the work required far outweighs the benefit of gaining back 200 pixels of space.

3 can't be fixed user side at all afaik

Ok thank you, seems we just have to wait and hope for the best.

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 Post subject: Re: FEEDBACK THREAD
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I've had a really constructive conversation with the various tech people over the last 24 hours or so, and things are being changed to reflect feedback. Keep it coming, but I think we have the main issues resolved for the most part.

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 12:12 pm 
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P-F1 Mod wrote:
I've had a really constructive conversation with the various tech people over the last 24 hours or so, and things are being changed to reflect feedback. Keep it coming, but I think we have the main issues resolved for the most part.


Thanks Mod :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 12:56 am 
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Ok, as requested, still having to log in each time, adverts taking up an incredible amount of space and they don't load instantly, leading to the screen shifting a few times over a couple of seconds, often leading to me clicking in the wrong place!


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