2020 70th Anniversary Grand Prix Practice & Qualifying Thread

tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:54 pm

Black_Flag_11 wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:45 pm
Saw someone suggest this on Twitter and couldn't resist

And, now, Ferrari can kiss mine...

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:13 pm

So far Stroll is 3 tenths down on his teammate in each sector.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:20 pm

good job gasly and russel

cmax · Post by **cmax** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:22 pm

Too bad for Kvyatt. AT looks good for top 10.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:26 pm

I do think Kvyat is rather under rated on race day, But Gasly seem significently better over 1 lap.

Bottas and Hamilton again are hard to seperate and Either of them could pull out a good lap in Q3 I'd say to get pole. Other odd differences between team mates was Grosjean and Magnussen. Was it 7 tenths or something? I'm wondering if Magnussen had a problem. Thought Grosjean looked quicker throughout practice.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:27 pm

max on the hard tyre

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:31 pm

Brundle is talking rubbish here. Commenting that hamilton's lap was a mess initially then saying it was a neat and tidy lap near the end and he wasn't taking any risks. I miss channel 4 already. He seems to forget what he's just said...

Schumacher forever#1 · Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:38 pm

Just tuning in, why are Mercedes on softs?

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:42 pm

I think hulk has got P3 in the bag here. Very impressive.

Schumacher forever#1 · Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:43 pm

Let's go Hulk! Show them why you should get that Red Bull seat

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:43 pm

Schumacher forever#1 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:38 pm
Just tuning in, why are Mercedes on softs?

they did their fastest times on mediums

Schumacher forever#1 · Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:45 pm

lucifers wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:43 pm

Schumacher forever#1 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:38 pm
Just tuning in, why are Mercedes on softs?
they did their fastest times on mediums

Thanks, yeah I figured I just misinterpreted the tv graphics when they slowed down on their second run on softs.

purchville · Post by **purchville** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:46 pm

Wow, Gasly quicker than both RBR's so far...though Max didn't do a second run.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:48 pm

purchville wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:46 pm
Wow, Gasly quicker than both RBR's so far...though Max didn't do a second run.

Yea I think Q2 is possibly the least representitive session of all the drivers true pace.

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:48 pm

Max also only used the hards. He will be a lot quicker in q3.

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:51 pm

Schumacher forever#1 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:43 pm
Let's go Hulk! Show them why you should get that Red Bull seat

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No, he should be given Vettel's seat at Ferrari for the rest of the season.

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lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:54 pm

impressive by riccardo

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:54 pm

This has the potential to be pretty embarrassing for the Stroll's.

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:55 pm

Where did that pace come from ricciardo?

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:56 pm

I think the Renault, Alpha Tauri, Red Bull, Ferrari and Racing Point are all really close in performance. A situation where a quality driver like Ricciardo can really make a difference and a take a car you would expect to be 8-10 to 3rd.

purchville · Post by **purchville** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:59 pm

kleefton wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:55 pm
Where did that pace come from ricciardo?

He had it yesterday as well in FP2. Could be a good weekend for him...I think he spent a lot of time on full tanks in FP1. Seems he's learnt a lot about this Renault in a week.

Schumacher forever#1 · Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:01 pm

kleefton wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:42 pm
I think hulk has got P3 in the bag here. Very impressive.

Mayox · Post by **Mayox** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:02 pm

Stroll is a such a waste of seat...

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:03 pm

Hulkenberg showing where I think Racing Point should have been a lot more often this season.

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:03 pm

Wow congrats to bottas. Hulk was the star of the show imo. Ricciardo also.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:05 pm

As I thought, When Both Bottas and Hamilton are close all weekend, it is often extremely tight in qualifying. That last lap just wasn't known until the very last moment.

OK, Hulkenberg has really surprised me. That was an outstanding lap. This doesn't take my credit away from him, but I think those suspicious of Stroll's performance in hungary and it being a one off was maybe correct. I still think Perez is better than Hulkenberg, but there is no doubt that if things go wrong for some drivers excludign hulkenberg, a podium is within sight. But I think Verstappen will quite easily find a way by unfortuantly.

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:05 pm

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:03 pm
Hulkenberg showing where I think Racing Point should have been a lot more often this season.

He’s always been a very good qualifier. He beat Checo, never looked far from ricciardo as teammates. The guy deserves to be on the grid.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:07 pm

Mayox wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:02 pm
Stroll is a such a waste of seat...

If you are basing that on this qualifying, then you should say the same for Perez a couple of times this year where Stroll clearly was better than him in qualifying. Stroll is there for a reason and although I think he was poor this time out, He really isn't as bad as people suggest.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:09 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:07 pm

Mayox wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:02 pm
Stroll is a such a waste of seat...
If you are basing that on this qualifying, then you should say the same for Perez a couple of times this year where Stroll clearly was better than him in qualifying. Stroll is there for a reason and although I think he was poor this time out, He really isn't as bad as people suggest.

And we all know what that reason is. We all know he doesn't have a competitive F1 seat on merit.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:11 pm

kleefton wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:05 pm

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:03 pm
Hulkenberg showing where I think Racing Point should have been a lot more often this season.
He’s always been a very good qualifier. He beat Checo, never looked far from ricciardo as teammates. The guy deserves to be on the grid.

Yeah this is a bit of an issue for Racing Point I think. Neither of their regular drivers are good qualifiers. Perez is weak and Stroll is awful.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:11 pm

Perez, right now.......

Credit abc.net

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:13 pm

Figured Bottas would get pole if the mediums indeed did have more pace in them than the softs. On the softs Hamilton seemed to have a close but clear edge but made a mess of his lap in Q2 on the mediums which didn't bode well for a Q3 mediums run.

Hulk has gotten so much more pace out of the car this weekend and I highly doubt he's dialled himself in fully yet, so in raw pace I assume this RP is the 2nd fastest on the grid. Given the circumstances, Hulk put in a very good lap, and yet there's probably another notch of performance he could extract simply by having more car time.

Ricciardo has been absolutely on it this weekend and he's carried it through qualifying.

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:14 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:07 pm

Mayox wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:02 pm
Stroll is a such a waste of seat...
If you are basing that on this qualifying, then you should say the same for Perez a couple of times this year where Stroll clearly was better than him in qualifying. Stroll is there for a reason and although I think he was poor this time out, He really isn't as bad as people suggest.

Maybe not but he’s clearly among the slowest on the grid. Stroll is a safe Sunday driver but racing point could do so much better than him. To lose by that extent to a guy that’s only driven the car once is very bad.

Mort Canard · Post by **Mort Canard** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:20 pm

If Sebastian wasn't doing so blitheringly bad recently, I would be eagerly anticipating what he could do next year in the newly competitive Racing Point/Aston Martin. Congrats to Nico for showing us what that car is capable of. At this rate I won't mind if Checo has to miss a few more races on account of the 'rona.

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:24 pm

Mega quali laps from Hulkenberg & Ricciardo but would've liked to see Ricciardo on the softs for the last run if he had a new set available. Ended only 1/10th off Verstappen in the end on the slower tyre.

Hulk 4/10ths fast than Stroll straight out of the box after 9 mths out of a F1 car. Bloody impressive. On the other hand, Ocon continues to be consistently about 1/2 sec off Ricciardo. I'd have thought he should be getting closer than that by now after 4 races. Albon as well continues to concern. 1/2 sec behind Verstappen.

Great lap by Bottas too.

As for Vettel, I'm starting to get the feeling he's kind of already checked out of Ferrari. This reminds me his last year with Red Bull when Ricciardo eat him soundly. The only difference between then & now is that he doesn't have a drive for next year but then again this is an older Vettel so he mightn't really care. He seems to me to be just going through the motions.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:44 pm

What is up with McLaren's pace? I thought it was Sainz underperforming but looking at the gap between him and Norris, well is was only 0.198. Grosjean in a Ferrari powered Haas has a smaller gap than this to Sainz. Was this poor from both McLaren drivers or the car is just not there this weekend? Or possibly credit where it is due to Grosjean for at least still having decent speed as he did outqualify magnessen by over 7 tenths.

Given Ferrari themselves looked weak (leclerc 8th and Vettel 12th) they were also separated by a smaller gap than it looked (Just over 3 tenths).

Renault to me looked strong. Not sure if it was the engine or the car. Ocon and Ricciardo looked good, But Ocon messed up in Q2. Ricciardo however impressed me as much as hulkenberg. He was barely any slower than verstappen. McLaren either had their drivers mess up or their car isn't really progressing this year. Haas are just up and down and all over the place. And some will say their drivers are too!

-K- · Post by **-K-** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:22 pm

So pleased for Hulk, but given his run of luck I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up retiring as a result of a first lap collision with Max.

Sainz’s move to Ferrari for next year doesn’t look as bad this week.

Wasn’t Seb on the soft while Charles was on the medium? Last year was embarrassing enough for him as a 4x WDC while Leclerc was a near rookie. If he does want to bag another seat he might be feeling the pressure as being pretty consistently beaten by his team mate isn’t going to increase his attractiveness to other teams, quite the opposite the longer it goes on.

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:49 pm

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/151194

Could it be concluded from this that Bottas has tried to get his car set up for qualifying?

Mort Canard · Post by **Mort Canard** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:16 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:49 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/151194

Could it be concluded from this that Bottas has tried to get his car set up for qualifying?

It seems to me (and I am not the first to have this idea) that Valtteri can match Lewis pace on one lap or perhaps a few laps but struggles to match Lewis' racecraft over the distance of a Grand Prix. The difference is not always enough to allow Lewis to pass Valtteri given the same or similar cars and setups, but Lewis does most often have a focus and a skill set that normally has the advantage over Bottas. It has been noted that Lewis will vary his line each lap by just the small amount that is required by a changing fuel load and tire usage. I think that the same could be said of Nico Rossberg. The difference in drivers is slight but the edge goes to Lewis in the long run.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:19 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:49 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/151194

Could it be concluded from this that Bottas has tried to get his car set up for qualifying?

Well yea, that looks to be the case.

I'm not sure it will make the car worse for the race which some often suggested in the past with bottas and his qualifying setup since it is mentioning that it hopefully is now optimised for both.