2020 Styrian Grand Prix Race Thread

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:51 pm

Tomorrow's race will be a cracker.

kls2020 · Post by **kls2020** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:57 pm

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Exediron · Post by **Exediron** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:09 pm

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Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:47 pm

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Post by **Mod Yellow** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:20 am

Lets stick to the race at hand please people, there is plenty to discuss on that front.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:46 am

Starting grid:

Source - Imgur

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:48 am

Tyre sets available for the race:

Source - Imgur

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:02 am

Pit strategy options:

Source - Imgur

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:22 am

Best bet would probably be mediums though and go as long as possible because there will be any excuse to bring out a safety car after last weekend.

BMWSauber84 · Post by **BMWSauber84** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:21 pm

Verstappen might be in luck today (reliability pending). I suspect Hamilton may have quite a draggy setup.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:58 pm

Grosjean's bad luck is beyond rediculous now. Hass breaking parc ferme rules meaning he has to start from the pit lane. This pretty much indicates the fault with the car from yesterday was pretty serious unless another fault occures since. Hass seem so messed up with reliability at the moment on both cars, but the vast majority of the problems have gone to Grosjean in the past 18 months or so. Really does not help with his reputation as too many people judge his issues as being his fault.

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:00 pm

BMWSauber84 wrote:Verstappen might be in luck today (reliability pending). I suspect Hamilton may have quite a draggy setup.

What makes you think that?

tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:06 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote:Grosjean's bad luck is beyond rediculous now. Hass breaking parc ferme rules meaning he has to start from the pit lane. This pretty much indicates the fault with the car from yesterday was pretty serious unless another fault occures since. Hass seem so messed up with reliability at the moment on both cars, but the vast majority of the problems have gone to Grosjean in the past 18 months or so. Really does not help with his reputation as too many people judge his issues as being his fault.

Quite a valid point about Grosjean. When he has a decent car, and is in a happy place, he is right up there. Unfortunately, when things don't go so well, I have a feeling that his shoulders drop.
I hope that Haas do sort the car out. Both drivers deserve better.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:16 pm

oh ferrari

KeillRandor · Post by **KeillRandor** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:18 pm

lucifers wrote:oh ferrari

That's not how you make more Ferraris

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:19 pm

Someone on racefans said that Leclerc may have a monaco 2019 about him. So true that was....

tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pm

No action on the Ferrari incident.I know it was a first lap thing but wasn't that just clumsy from LeClerc? COnsidering Hamilton's penalty from last week...

cmberry20 · Post by **cmberry20** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:24 pm

Sky commentators don't have a clue which Ferrari hit who. Even after multi camera angles

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:31 pm

tootsie323 wrote:No action on the Ferrari incident.I know it was a first lap thing but wasn't that just clumsy from LeClerc? COnsidering Hamilton's penalty from last week...

remember that first lap clashes are often not punished as harshly. Plus think about Hamilton vs Rosberg spain 2016, Verstappen vs Ricciardo Baku 2018, Vettel vs Leclerc brazil 2019. Team mate collisions so rarely get investigated further.

SmoothRide · Post by **SmoothRide** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:35 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote:Team mate collisions so rarely get investigated further.

I always find that odd. Presumably incidents are investigated because of dangerous driving. Does it somehow make it NOT dangerous when it's between teammates?

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:35 pm

ocon vs riccardo

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:36 pm

lucifers wrote:ocon vs riccardo

Completely ruining Ricciardos strategy.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:38 pm

SmoothRide wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:Team mate collisions so rarely get investigated further.
I always find that odd. Presumably incidents are investigated because of dangerous driving. Does it somehow make it NOT dangerous when it's between teammates?

Yea i don't understand it either, but it is a consistent thing it seems. Same with Grosjean and Magnussen in britain last year which comes to mind too.

Regarding the latest with Vettel and Leclerc, That was incredibly obvious that Leclerc walloped into Vettel, which looked far more clumsy than what vettel did last weekend.

bourbon19 · Post by **bourbon19** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:41 pm

cmberry20 wrote:Sky commentators don't have a clue which Ferrari hit who. Even after multi camera angles

Martin confused things by immediately jumping on Seb as usual. At least Martin apologized this time when he realized that it had been an obvious brain dead moment by Charles.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:42 pm

bottas starting to get close to max

tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:42 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:
lucifers wrote:ocon vs riccardo
Completely ruining Ricciardos strategy.

Yup. If you know your team-mate is on an alternate strategy, why hold him up? I'm not saying jump out of the way, but don't defend to the hilt.

Post by **Mod Titanium** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:42 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:
lucifers wrote:ocon vs riccardo
Completely ruining Ricciardos strategy.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:43 pm

Unless Bottas is planning to go longer than Verstappen, his pace doesn't look good given that I thought Red Bull were nothing like as strong here. Although to be honest, Verstappen isn't much slower than Hamilton.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:44 pm

ocon out

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:48 pm

Why did they pit Hamilton?

KeillRandor · Post by **KeillRandor** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:48 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:Why did they pit Hamilton?

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tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:49 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:Why did they pit Hamilton?

Covering off Verstappen, presumably. Though I thought they may have had at least an extra lap in hand before making that decision.

bourbon19 · Post by **bourbon19** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:Why did they pit Hamilton?

Try to prevent an undercut, I imagine. But I don’t think it was necessary.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:56 pm

Albon is such a waste in that Redbull, if they had a decent number 2 they would be ahead of Bottas after the pitstop and be able to hold him up.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:10 pm

perez is on a roll

Schumacher forever#1 · Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:11 pm

Perez already DOTD anyways. He started well down in bottom five I think?

Schumacher forever#1 · Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:13 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:Albon is such a waste in that Redbull, if they had a decent number 2 they would be ahead of Bottas after the pitstop and be able to hold him up.

May be in the best interest of Seb to wait out a couple of races to see if Red Bull get impatient.

Can't help but think it's either Red Bull suiting Verstappen's style or Verstappen just being the next Senna/Schumacher that's causing the gap, rather than Albon/Gasly and therefore Gasly's apparent slow pace.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:16 pm

come on perez lets get albon

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:18 pm

Not a great race from Bottas is it? It shouldn't be marginal in regards to beat Verstappen.

cmax · Post by **cmax** » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:18 pm

Loved Perez's move on Daniel. Very decisive.