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The plan regarding different tyre compounds for the second weekend is happening at Silverstone but not Austria. Tyre choices for the first eight races are here if anyone cares: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pire ... s/4805455/

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There will be no races in Azerbaijan, Singapore or Japan in 2020 https://f1.com/Cancellations

In the last week or so there’s been reports of double headers in Russia, China, Bahrain with Bahrain using a different layout for the second race. Possible races at Mugello and Hockenheim seem to be possible too.

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JN23 wrote:There will be no races in Azerbaijan, Singapore or Japan in 2020 https://f1.com/Cancellations

In the last week or so there’s been reports of double headers in Russia, China, Bahrain with Bahrain using a different layout for the second race. Possible races at Mugello and Hockenheim seem to be possible too.
I was a little excited when I saw Mugello mentioned. Then I thought - great circuit for bikes... not so sure it would be for F1. Lots of sweeping mid-speed corners, not good for today's cars in terms of following and overtaking. Shame really - though I'd love to have my opinion proven wrong.
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JN23 wrote:There will be no races in Azerbaijan, Singapore or Japan in 2020 https://f1.com/Cancellations

In the last week or so there’s been reports of double headers in Russia, China, Bahrain with Bahrain using a different layout for the second race. Possible races at Mugello and Hockenheim seem to be possible too.
Has there ever been a race the wrong way round a circuit? I can see why its dodgy but just wondering.

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One option being looked at is a Bahrain "oval"*:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... n/4805971/





*It's not an oval...

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Herb wrote:One option being looked at is a Bahrain "oval"*:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... n/4805971/





*It's not an oval...
It's an interesting idea, and I agree with the point being made that running the same event twice is not going to have great appeal so we should be looking at options to make the second race different in some way.

It feels like it would either fall completely flat and not work as intended, or give us one of the most interesting races in years. I think I would rather see the former to be honest, otherwise I fear that the idea will catch on and we'll end up with a race calendar full of square circuits.

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j man wrote:
Herb wrote:One option being looked at is a Bahrain "oval"*:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... n/4805971/





*It's not an oval...
It's an interesting idea, and I agree with the point being made that running the same event twice is not going to have great appeal so we should be looking at options to make the second race different in some way.

It feels like it would either fall completely flat and not work as intended, or give us one of the most interesting races in years. I think I would rather see the former to be honest, otherwise I fear that the idea will catch on and we'll end up with a race calendar full of square circuits.
Could always give the endurance circuit that was used in 2010 another go, although that still encompasses the vast majority of the usual circuit which probably won't be seen as different enough.

On a different note, reverse grids are still on the table for 2021 and is seen as likely to take place as the new rules that will come into place this year means a unanimous agreement from the teams isn't decided.

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JN23 wrote:
j man wrote:
Herb wrote:One option being looked at is a Bahrain "oval"*:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... n/4805971/





*It's not an oval...
It's an interesting idea, and I agree with the point being made that running the same event twice is not going to have great appeal so we should be looking at options to make the second race different in some way.

It feels like it would either fall completely flat and not work as intended, or give us one of the most interesting races in years. I think I would rather see the former to be honest, otherwise I fear that the idea will catch on and we'll end up with a race calendar full of square circuits.
Could always give the endurance circuit that was used in 2010 another go, although that still encompasses the vast majority of the usual circuit which probably won't be seen as different enough.

On a different note, reverse grids are still on the table for 2021 and is seen as likely to take place as the new rules that will come into place this year means a unanimous agreement from the teams isn't decided.
Yeah, Brawn seems pretty determined to give it a go.

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Bahrain 'Oval' race

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I like the look of this, great idea for a second or even main race imho.

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/moder ... n-circuit/

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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... RvcWs.html

The key points from this are:
- expected that the next 'chunk' of races will be announced in the next few weeks. It was hoped this would have been done by now
- the target of 15-18 is still the target
- some races are essentially agreed, good progress has been made on others and others are much more up in the air
- the up in the air bit refers to the Americas due to the Covid-19 situation in Brazil, Mexico and the US

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JN23 wrote:https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... RvcWs.html

The key points from this are:
- expected that the next 'chunk' of races will be announced in the next few weeks. It was hoped this would have been done by now
- the target of 15-18 is still the target
- some races are essentially agreed, good progress has been made on others and others are much more up in the air
- the up in the air bit refers to the Americas due to the Covid-19 situation in Brazil, Mexico and the US
I think they've done a great job piecing this season together in difficult circumstances. I dread to think of the shambles that would have ensued with Bernie still running things.

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Melbourne has just gone back into lockdown for six weeks after 1048 cases in 14days

Wouldn't surprise me if F1 misses 2021 there as well

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/muge ... t/4828667/

- Sounds like Mugello will be on the weekend of the 13th September.
- Russia on the 27th September with tickets being advertised. Must say that I'm amazed at this as I thought Russia was in a pretty bad state.
- Canada now looks unlikely and Portimao is expected to happen at the beginning of October
- Vietnam looking likely and China is up in the air
- Expected that September/October part of the calendar will be announced in the coming days
- November/December to be announced at a later date but Bahrain x2 and Abu Dhabi expected to finish the season. If we don't go to the America's there might be space for a race or two more in that.

Based on this article we're looking at 15/16 races.

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Mugello and Sochi confirmed for 13th and 27th September.

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F1 at Mugello - that's just weird!

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Must be huge question mark over Barcelona. Shops have closed again and currently getting 1000+ cases per day. Cant see F1 rolling up helping to encourage everyone to stay indoors when it's 30degrees everyday

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Zazu wrote:Must be huge question mark over Barcelona. Shops have closed again and currently getting 1000+ cases per day. Cant see F1 rolling up helping to encourage everyone to stay indoors when it's 30degrees everyday
Pffft, 1000 per day? Amateurs. We long for those days.
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Zazu wrote:Must be huge question mark over Barcelona. Shops have closed again and currently getting 1000+ cases per day. Cant see F1 rolling up helping to encourage everyone to stay indoors when it's 30degrees everyday
AMUS are reporting that plan B would be a third race at Silverstone.

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JN23 wrote:
Zazu wrote:Must be huge question mark over Barcelona. Shops have closed again and currently getting 1000+ cases per day. Cant see F1 rolling up helping to encourage everyone to stay indoors when it's 30degrees everyday
AMUS are reporting that plan B would be a third race at Silverstone.
I'm never usually one to complain about F1 rather than no F1 but I did think after the 2nd race in Austria that I wouldn't be too excited about another. I hope we get to go to Barcelona but it's not looking great.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
JN23 wrote:
Zazu wrote:Must be huge question mark over Barcelona. Shops have closed again and currently getting 1000+ cases per day. Cant see F1 rolling up helping to encourage everyone to stay indoors when it's 30degrees everyday
AMUS are reporting that plan B would be a third race at Silverstone.
I'm never usually one to complain about F1 rather than no F1 but I did think after the 2nd race in Austria that I wouldn't be too excited about another. I hope we get to go to Barcelona but it's not looking great.
Yeah I agree.

I wonder if Hockenheim would still be an option? I get that it's short notice now and the advantage of Silverstone is that it means no movement after the second race but could be worth F1 exploring.

I did read that the area that restrictions have been tightened in in Catalonia doesn't actually include the circuit, but there's still issues obviously.

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Race fans are reporting races at Nurburgring, Portimao and Imola will follow Sochi.



https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/22/nur ... and-imola/

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Exediron wrote:
Zazu wrote:Must be huge question mark over Barcelona. Shops have closed again and currently getting 1000+ cases per day. Cant see F1 rolling up helping to encourage everyone to stay indoors when it's 30degrees everyday
Pffft, 1000 per day? Amateurs. We long for those days.
Well, about half of you do :-P

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JN23 wrote:Race fans are reporting races at Nurburgring, Portimao and Imola will follow Sochi.



https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/22/nur ... and-imola/
Hopefully a small silver lining to all of this mess is more circuits being able to show off what they have to offer F1. Who knows a particularly good race could lead to a more permanent arrangement that wouldn't otherwise have happened.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race fans are reporting races at Nurburgring, Portimao and Imola will follow Sochi.



https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/22/nur ... and-imola/
Hopefully a small silver lining to all of this mess is more circuits being able to show off what they have to offer F1. Who knows a particularly good race could lead to a more permanent arrangement that wouldn't otherwise have happened.
I believe tracks are chosen for commercial reasons and not wether they produce good races or not.
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Hockenheim now won't happen regardless and F1 aren't planning for a third Silverstone race.

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Unsurprisingly, US, Mexico and Brazil set to be cancelled:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/53527355


Also rumours in that article of Sepang returning. That would be very welcome!

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JN23 wrote:Hockenheim now won't happen regardless and F1 aren't planning for a third Silverstone race.
Apparently the Nurburgring is preferred because they think they can get an audience for that race, a bigger audience then Hockenheim which I think is a shame because Hockenheim produces good races.
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Three more races announced taking us up to 13. With Bahrain x2 and Abu Dhabi we'll be at 16. Not sure if there will be anymore than that but last time there was 16 races or less was 2003. Also the first time ever there will be no race in the Americas.

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Imola is a two day weekend - exact format yet to be finalised.

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JN23 wrote:Three more races announced taking us up to 13. With Bahrain x2 and Abu Dhabi we'll be at 16. Not sure if there will be anymore than that but last time there was 16 races or less was 2003. Also the first time ever there will be no race in the Americas.
Wow, I'm so in for Imola. Never heard of the Portuguese track before, but I'll always welcome a new track to race on.
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Portimao intend to let fans in. No exact numbers but it's expected to be in the tens of thousands

I might have missed something but Portugal can't even get onto the UK safe list which currently has 74 countries on it!



Barcelona race is baffling me as well. France are advising against travel to Catalonia. The area itself has curtailed all nightlife with nightclubs closed again and bars and restaurants having to close at midnight. Cant be a great advert for the area when all the talk in the build up is going to be about that

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Zazu wrote:Portimao intend to let fans in. No exact numbers but it's expected to be in the tens of thousands

I might have missed something but Portugal can't even get onto the UK safe list which currently has 74 countries on it!



Barcelona race is baffling me as well. France are advising against travel to Catalonia. The area itself has curtailed all nightlife with nightclubs closed again and bars and restaurants having to close at midnight. Cant be a great advert for the area when all the talk in the build up is going to be about that
I guess F1 are leaving as long as they can on Catalonia?

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So unless i'm forgetting something, as it stands as of today, with the cancellation of all the races in the America's, doesn't that leave us with just races in Europe & Asia & therefore no official World Championship?
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Jezza13 wrote:So unless i'm forgetting something, as it stands as of today, with the cancellation of all the races in the America's, doesn't that leave us with just races in Europe & Asia & therefore no official World Championship?
Brawn said that three continents wouldn’t be a problem a while back and it seems the FIA are now saying it will be a world championship:
https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/128 ... 17857?s=21

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Jezza13 wrote:So unless i'm forgetting something, as it stands as of today, with the cancellation of all the races in the America's, doesn't that leave us with just races in Europe & Asia & therefore no official World Championship?
Most 1950s seasons were run on two continents - and some only if you count in the 500 miles of Indianapolis.

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A small feel for Portimao can be felt here by the GP2 race held there:
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Looks a really narrow circuit, or is that the camera angle?

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Circuit is wide. F1 have tested there, it has many configurations


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Deleting post because I was talking rubbish.

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Mugello (Tuscan Grand Prix):
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Imola (Emilia Romagna Grand Prix):
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Portimao (Portugese Grand Prix):
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