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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 10:55 am 
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i would like to see these driver changes take place now, for the 2020 season, whatever that ends up being


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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 11:29 am 
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Covalent wrote:
Auto Bild are reporting this will be Wolff's last season as team principal of the Mercedes F1 team.
https://f1-insider.com/f1/formel-1-news ... ef-zuruck/

Whilst Autosport are running an article that Mercedes are staying in F1 with Wolff.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 11:30 am 
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i would like to see these driver changes take place now, for the 2020 season, whatever that ends up being

I quite like seeing Leclerc/Vettel part 2 and Ricciardo against Ocon.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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https://www.racefans.net/2020/06/03/mer ... ays-wolff/

Can anyone see a reason for Hamilton or Bottas to leave? If anything, I now can't even say it is any more likely that Bottas will leave at the end of this year than Hamilton. I still expect both will stay. If bottas was a good as last year, or improves (is still possible), then even though russel deserves a better team, I don't know why Mercedes would want to risk any changes. If there was any change in driver line up (which I don't think will happen next year) at Mercedes, I feel Vettel and Bottas would be the best combination. I do think that with a new and strong team, Vettel may be able to be very good again. I still think he has it in him to be better than Bottas, but I just don't think him and Hamilton as team mates will work. Would be worse than Rosberg vs Hamilton I think. And Russel is just not experienced enough yet IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
https://www.racefans.net/2020/06/03/mercedes-keeping-options-open-on-vettel-in-case-hamilton-or-bottas-leave-says-wolff/

Can anyone see a reason for Hamilton or Bottas to leave? If anything, I now can't even say it is any more likely that Bottas will leave at the end of this year than Hamilton. I still expect both will stay. If bottas was a good as last year, or improves (is still possible), then even though russel deserves a better team, I don't know why Mercedes would want to risk any changes. If there was any change in driver line up (which I don't think will happen next year) at Mercedes, I feel Vettel and Bottas would be the best combination. I do think that with a new and strong team, Vettel may be able to be very good again. I still think he has it in him to be better than Bottas, but I just don't think him and Hamilton as team mates will work. Would be worse than Rosberg vs Hamilton I think. And Russel is just not experienced enough yet IMO.

The only change I see Mercedes making is replacing Bottas with Russell, Hamilton will stay with Mercedes unless he decides to retire which doesn't seem to be on the cards any time soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
https://www.racefans.net/2020/06/03/mercedes-keeping-options-open-on-vettel-in-case-hamilton-or-bottas-leave-says-wolff/

Can anyone see a reason for Hamilton or Bottas to leave? If anything, I now can't even say it is any more likely that Bottas will leave at the end of this year than Hamilton. I still expect both will stay. If bottas was a good as last year, or improves (is still possible), then even though russel deserves a better team, I don't know why Mercedes would want to risk any changes. If there was any change in driver line up (which I don't think will happen next year) at Mercedes, I feel Vettel and Bottas would be the best combination. I do think that with a new and strong team, Vettel may be able to be very good again. I still think he has it in him to be better than Bottas, but I just don't think him and Hamilton as team mates will work. Would be worse than Rosberg vs Hamilton I think. And Russel is just not experienced enough yet IMO.


If Hamilton signs a long term contract then Bottas may go elsewhere if he gets a good offer. It would be a risk to sign a one year deal at Mercedes with the prospect of Russell or Ocon probably replacing you after that and turn down a big multi year contract elsewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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mikeyg123 wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
https://www.racefans.net/2020/06/03/mercedes-keeping-options-open-on-vettel-in-case-hamilton-or-bottas-leave-says-wolff/

Can anyone see a reason for Hamilton or Bottas to leave? If anything, I now can't even say it is any more likely that Bottas will leave at the end of this year than Hamilton. I still expect both will stay. If bottas was a good as last year, or improves (is still possible), then even though russel deserves a better team, I don't know why Mercedes would want to risk any changes. If there was any change in driver line up (which I don't think will happen next year) at Mercedes, I feel Vettel and Bottas would be the best combination. I do think that with a new and strong team, Vettel may be able to be very good again. I still think he has it in him to be better than Bottas, but I just don't think him and Hamilton as team mates will work. Would be worse than Rosberg vs Hamilton I think. And Russel is just not experienced enough yet IMO.


If Hamilton signs a long term contract then Bottas may go elsewhere if he gets a good offer. It would be a risk to sign a one year deal at Mercedes with the prospect of Russell or Ocon probably replacing you after that and turn down a big multi year contract elsewhere.


I think Renault would be a good move for Bottas if his contract is renewed or decides that he wants a change.


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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:42 am 
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JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
https://www.racefans.net/2020/06/03/mercedes-keeping-options-open-on-vettel-in-case-hamilton-or-bottas-leave-says-wolff/

Can anyone see a reason for Hamilton or Bottas to leave? If anything, I now can't even say it is any more likely that Bottas will leave at the end of this year than Hamilton. I still expect both will stay. If bottas was a good as last year, or improves (is still possible), then even though russel deserves a better team, I don't know why Mercedes would want to risk any changes. If there was any change in driver line up (which I don't think will happen next year) at Mercedes, I feel Vettel and Bottas would be the best combination. I do think that with a new and strong team, Vettel may be able to be very good again. I still think he has it in him to be better than Bottas, but I just don't think him and Hamilton as team mates will work. Would be worse than Rosberg vs Hamilton I think. And Russel is just not experienced enough yet IMO.


If Hamilton signs a long term contract then Bottas may go elsewhere if he gets a good offer. It would be a risk to sign a one year deal at Mercedes with the prospect of Russell or Ocon probably replacing you after that and turn down a big multi year contract elsewhere.


I think Renault would be a good move for Bottas if his contract is renewed or decides that he wants a change.

Well he's been in contact with Renault, I wonder given the choice wether he'd take a 2 year deal with Renault or a 1 year deal with Mercedes?

I'd be guessing a 3 year Renault contract would definitely seal a deal?

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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Bottas has been told that Mercedes aren’t considering Vettel, according to Bottas.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... 1/4804802/


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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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JN23 wrote:
Bottas has been told that Mercedes aren’t considering Vettel, according to Bottas.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... 1/4804802/

I only ever viewed Vettel as an option to replace Hamilton if he retired.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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As per a report, Alonso could be announced this week as Ricciardo's replacement for 2021.

https://www.eurosport.co.uk/formula-1/_sto7797996/story.shtml

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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And He is. Not too many people here talk about it. I think this is positive news. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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I'm reading some rumors that Seb will be announced an AM driver.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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And He is. Not too many people here talk about it. I think this is positive news. :)

It's being discussed in a separate thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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Covalent wrote:
I'm reading some rumors that Seb will be announced an AM driver.


I'd feel bad for Perez if Vettel does indeed replace him. While Perez is under contract, I wouldn't be surprised if the holding company releases him for the marketable Sebastian Vettel.

It was also interesting to see Horner and Verstappen on a chat show with Vettel, who all seemed a little too friendly with each other.

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 Post subject: Re: Silly Season 2021
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Covalent wrote:
I'm reading some rumors that Seb will be announced an AM driver.

Move would make sense IMO. It would be a real statement of intent from Aston Martin to come in and sign a 4x WDC, having someone of his experience would no doubt help in terms of giving insight into how championship contending teams operate.

From Vettels POV I think it's fair to say that Force India/Racing point have been a fairly consistently impressive team since the hybrid era when you consider their budget. Money is coming in via stroll with AM backing and they have a good platform with the pink '19 Mercedes to focus more on the upcoming regulations.

With a regulation shift coming up I would say it's worth a punt, you never know what could happen in F1.


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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I'm reading some rumors that Seb will be announced an AM driver.


I'd feel bad for Perez if Vettel does indeed replace him. While Perez is under contract, I wouldn't be surprised if the holding company releases him for the marketable Sebastian Vettel.

It was also interesting to see Horner and Verstappen on a chat show with Vettel, who all seemed a little too friendly with each other.


If they replace Perez with Vettel, it would be a huge mistake. Vettel should be joining the team at the expense of Stroll.
I guess if he comes on board, the decision on who he replaces will determine if they're serious about being successful or not.


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Charles LeBrad wrote:
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I'm reading some rumors that Seb will be announced an AM driver.


I'd feel bad for Perez if Vettel does indeed replace him. While Perez is under contract, I wouldn't be surprised if the holding company releases him for the marketable Sebastian Vettel.

It was also interesting to see Horner and Verstappen on a chat show with Vettel, who all seemed a little too friendly with each other.


If they replace Perez with Vettel, it would be a huge mistake. Vettel should be joining the team at the expense of Stroll.
I guess if he comes on board, the decision on who he replaces will determine if they're serious about being successful or not.

Perez has a contract until the end of 2022, Stroll I believe was only confirmed for 2020.


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Christian Horner has just ruled out Vettel going back to Red Bull on Sky pretty emphatically. I guess we knew that wasn’t going to happen anyway.

Had to laugh when he said that their commitment was to their existing drivers though :lol:


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Christian Horner has just ruled out Vettel going back to Red Bull on Sky pretty emphatically. I guess we knew that wasn’t going to happen anyway.

Had to laugh when he said that their commitment was to their existing drivers though :lol:


I think that's Vettel all but confirmed.


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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I'm reading some rumors that Seb will be announced an AM driver.

Move would make sense IMO. It would be a real statement of intent from Aston Martin to come in and sign a 4x WDC, having someone of his experience would no doubt help in terms of giving insight into how championship contending teams operate.


But how much kudo does Vettels name actually carry these days? 4 X WDC true enough, but last one 7 years ago, currently being beaten by a noob and unwanted by is current team.

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