I never said it was for the good of the customers, and Apple is a bad example as their products are over priced due to the badge. But it's not possible to produce these products in the west for a price people are willing to pay. However Apple's most lucrative profits don't really come from its hardware division, it comes from the 30% cut they take on digital sales from third parties through its stores which is essentially money for nothing. But this is massively off topic.Covalent wrote:Apple are reporting a quarterly profit of over 20 billion dollars. In 2019 they sold about 40 million iPhones. So by reducing their profits they could reduce their phone prices by up to $2000. I know I'm over-simplifying the situation here, but they don't have their production abroad solely for the good of the customers.Alienturnedhuman wrote:Chicken or egg? Consumers require a price point, that price point dictates the labour cost.pokerman wrote:More like big international companies like to use cheap labour?Alienturnedhuman wrote:We love our iPhones too much to stop doing that.pokerman wrote:Should we really be trading with a country like China?
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I'm not defending organisations, but it wouldn't be possible to sell the phones at the price they are sold at now if they were suddenly made in a country at Western minimum wage levels.
China's government has covered up a lot over coronavirus in order to avoid economic damage, but so have many Western governments too. There is arguably even worse crimes being done by the Trump administration as it delayed rolling out tests to Americans in order to hand the contract for test kit manufacturing to Ivanka Trump's husband's brother, for a value of 3 times the price per kit as the WHO kit would have cost. The website went to Ivanka Trump's husband. Literal profiteering off of a pandemic killing Americans.
We then have German car manufacturers lobbying to return to work before its ready because they want to start making cars again, various failings by the British government, the Japanese government originally planned to hand out vouchers for companies that were friends of the Prime Minister's... all the governments across the world initially tried to play down the scale of the problem in their countries because admitting it early was bad for their image. It's no different to China. Until the weekend Trump was still claiming the USA would be opening for business on Easter.
As for clamping down on health workers. American hospitals are firing doctors and nurses who publicly criticise the hospital they work for. The British government has fired NHS workers who criticise the lack of PPE they have received. This is during a pandemic situation when qualified medical professionals is at a premium and they are losing their lives in the fight.
Maybe it's not as extreme as what China has done. But it's certainly an extremely hypocritical, holier than thou attitude.