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Moto 2 and 3 are already out there so will race as it stands. Travel restrictions mean MOTO GP teams are not to head out there!

Disappointing because I was looking forward to it, perhaps fortunate for Marc Marquez as he's still recovering from shoulder surgery and the Honda's not being good in testing at the circuit.

I wonder if there Are any questions about Melbourne- or the next 2 races, going ahead.

Am in Australia, and so far no news suggesting it’ll be cancelled. Things do seem to be progressing for the worse though- on the corona front

simonr23 wrote:I wonder if there Are any questions about Melbourne- or the next 2 races, going ahead.

Am in Australia, and so far no news suggesting it’ll be cancelled. Things do seem to be progressing for the worse though- on the corona front

Presently the problem seems to stem from parts of Italy and the restrictions on travel, if this affects Ferrari personnel will they cancel?

pokerman wrote:

simonr23 wrote:I wonder if there Are any questions about Melbourne- or the next 2 races, going ahead.

Am in Australia, and so far no news suggesting it’ll be cancelled. Things do seem to be progressing for the worse though- on the corona front

Presently the problem seems to stem from parts of Italy and the restrictions on travel, if this affects Ferrari personnel will they cancel?

Yeah surely. If Australia or Bahrain were to put a block on people from Italy travelling there then I’d be amazed if the races went ahead but we’ll see how it develops over the next week or so.

I asked in relation to China about this, I only got an answer that related to the 1935 championship but how many Grand Prix races need to be completed for the WDC and WCC trophies to be awarded?
I can see a series of races being cancelled.

Option or Prime wrote:I asked in relation to China about this, I only got an answer that related to the 1935 championship but how many Grand Prix races need to be completed for the WDC and WCC trophies to be awarded?
I can see a series of races being cancelled.

I'm honestly not certain there is a rule relating to that -- it's such an unlikely circumstance that a significant number of Grands Prix would be cancelled.

My guess is that as long as a majority of them take place, the season would be valid. But I don't know what the FIA would decide.

Amazes me its been cancelled.

Qatar pay fortunes to host the race and remember them racing on a Monday in the past after it was damp on raceday (race is underlights). It gets hardly any spectators so could have easily had it as a closed event.

Following this I cant see F1 races happening in any country that imposes a 14day quarantine on visitors

Exediron wrote:

Option or Prime wrote:I asked in relation to China about this, I only got an answer that related to the 1935 championship but how many Grand Prix races need to be completed for the WDC and WCC trophies to be awarded?
I can see a series of races being cancelled.

I'm honestly not certain there is a rule relating to that -- it's such an unlikely circumstance that a significant number of Grands Prix would be cancelled.

My guess is that as long as a majority of them take place, the season would be valid. But I don't know what the FIA would decide.

Thanks, I just wondered if there was a core of races completed specified, we have no idea how covid 19 is going to spread, I just hope it is not one of those things that becomes an issue at a later date!
Can you imagine what would happen if Hamilton or Verstappen were leading on points and the championship ruled void due to insufficient race.

But then I'm sure the governing body wouldn't do that would they?

Thailand MotoGP cancelled as well

F1 in Bahrain and Vietnam must be looking very ropey

Option or Prime wrote:

Exediron wrote:

Option or Prime wrote:I asked in relation to China about this, I only got an answer that related to the 1935 championship but how many Grand Prix races need to be completed for the WDC and WCC trophies to be awarded?
I can see a series of races being cancelled.

I'm honestly not certain there is a rule relating to that -- it's such an unlikely circumstance that a significant number of Grands Prix would be cancelled.

My guess is that as long as a majority of them take place, the season would be valid. But I don't know what the FIA would decide.

Thanks, I just wondered if there was a core of races completed specified, we have no idea how covid 19 is going to spread, I just hope it is not one of those things that becomes an issue at a later date!
Can you imagine what would happen if Hamilton or Verstappen were leading on points and the championship ruled void due to insufficient race.

But then I'm sure the governing body wouldn't do that would they?

Not directly F1 but the 1996 Indy Racing League championship had only 2 races in it. There's precedent for a VERY short calendar if required, but I dare say the FIA would want at least a token 3 races

I may be wrong but I think the Italian Moto GP teams were already in Qatar when the race was cancelled. And I don't think the Japanese ones are based in Japan.
That said, nobody wants to be accused of doing less than the Chinese authorities, so here we go for a safety precautions competition. Which rather than reassuring people, tend to make people believe (wrongly, or not) that no one knows how to stop it.
Wait for a proposal for a world wide cancellation of any move except from your bed to your fridge, and a 7 billions people quarantine.

Exediron wrote:

Option or Prime wrote:I asked in relation to China about this, I only got an answer that related to the 1935 championship but how many Grand Prix races need to be completed for the WDC and WCC trophies to be awarded?
I can see a series of races being cancelled.

I'm honestly not certain there is a rule relating to that -- it's such an unlikely circumstance that a significant number of Grands Prix would be cancelled.

My guess is that as long as a majority of them take place, the season would be valid. But I don't know what the FIA would decide.

Not too far back a season consisted of 16 races, so at least 6 could be presently lost, also let's not forget that races can be rescheduled, I would be guessing that to make way for some of these races the summer break would get cancelled.

Zazu wrote:Amazes me its been cancelled.

Qatar pay fortunes to host the race and remember them racing on a Monday in the past after it was damp on raceday (race is underlights). It gets hardly any spectators so could have easily had it as a closed event.

Following this I cant see F1 races happening in any country that imposes a 14day quarantine on visitors

I guess world health concerns come first, who wants a pandemic?

P-F1 Mod wrote:

Option or Prime wrote:

Exediron wrote:

Option or Prime wrote:I asked in relation to China about this, I only got an answer that related to the 1935 championship but how many Grand Prix races need to be completed for the WDC and WCC trophies to be awarded?
I can see a series of races being cancelled.

I'm honestly not certain there is a rule relating to that -- it's such an unlikely circumstance that a significant number of Grands Prix would be cancelled.

My guess is that as long as a majority of them take place, the season would be valid. But I don't know what the FIA would decide.

Thanks, I just wondered if there was a core of races completed specified, we have no idea how covid 19 is going to spread, I just hope it is not one of those things that becomes an issue at a later date!
Can you imagine what would happen if Hamilton or Verstappen were leading on points and the championship ruled void due to insufficient race.

But then I'm sure the governing body wouldn't do that would they?

Not directly F1 but the 1996 Indy Racing League championship had only 2 races in it. There's precedent for a VERY short calendar if required, but I dare say the FIA would want at least a token 3 races

3 races to decide the titles, I would be guessing that more likely the season gets scrapped?

Harpo wrote:I may be wrong but I think the Italian Moto GP teams were already in Qatar when the race was cancelled. And I don't think the Japanese ones are based in Japan.
That said, nobody wants to be accused of doing less than the Chinese authorities, so here we go for a safety precautions competition. Which rather than reassuring people, tend to make people believe (wrongly, or not) that no one knows how to stop it.
Wait for a proposal for a world wide cancellation of any move except from your bed to your fridge, and a 7 billions people quarantine.

Only the Moto2 and Moto3 teams were in Qatar for testing, these races are still going ahead.

I'm not sure on moto gp regulations.
But as it stands. The regulations still state for a formula 1 season to become official. 8 official races will need to be completed. And you only need 12 cars to run an official gp.

So. In f1. 4 teams can non attend and we still have a official race. And we can afford to lose 14 races and still have a official f1 season.

wire2004 wrote:I'm not sure on moto gp regulations.
But as it stands. The regulations still state for a formula 1 season to become official. 8 official races will need to be completed. And you only need 12 cars to run an official gp.

So. In f1. 4 teams can non attend and we still have a official race. And we can afford to lose 14 races and still have a official f1 season.

Thanks for that, I thought there might be a regulation somewhere. Any idea where it says that?

Option or Prime wrote:

wire2004 wrote:I'm not sure on moto gp regulations.
But as it stands. The regulations still state for a formula 1 season to become official. 8 official races will need to be completed. And you only need 12 cars to run an official gp.

So. In f1. 4 teams can non attend and we still have a official race. And we can afford to lose 14 races and still have a official f1 season.

Thanks for that, I thought there might be a regulation somewhere. Any idea where it says that?

I dont know how to put a picture up of my screenshot of it but the rule is explained on page 3. Section 5 of the official formula 1 sporting regulations. Hopefully someone with more knowledge can upload it onto here

As for moto gp regulations. I have had a look and it looks like there is no.such rules in place for lack of participation or events.

Many thanks for finding that, the link is here: 2019 formula one sporting regulations - FIA

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Option or Prime wrote:Many thanks for finding that, the link is here: 2019 formula one sporting regulations - FIA

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The interesting bit here is that the rule about 12 cars indicates that they can't cancel the race if only Ferrari and AT are unable to attend.

What is interesting is at the same time I had a quick look at the 2021 regs. I notice that the same rule. 5.4. Increases the minimum amount of grand prix to 10 and the maximum is 25.

Vietnam are now imposing 14 day medical quarantine on anyone travelling from Italy

Lots of races going to want the none existent free weekends in the second half of the season

mikeyg123 wrote:

Option or Prime wrote:Many thanks for finding that, the link is here: 2019 formula one sporting regulations - FIA

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The interesting bit here is that the rule about 12 cars indicates that they can't cancel the race if only Ferrari and AT are unable to attend.

It's not so much about Ferrari and AT - Pirelli is the real issue
And whilst the tyres might be manufactured in Turkey, most of the staff will be based and flying in from Italy

You can run races with less cars, but you can't run races without tyres or the tyre manufacture's staff

theARE wrote:

mikeyg123 wrote:

Option or Prime wrote:Many thanks for finding that, the link is here: 2019 formula one sporting regulations - FIA

Source imgbb.com

The interesting bit here is that the rule about 12 cars indicates that they can't cancel the race if only Ferrari and AT are unable to attend.

It's not so much about Ferrari and AT - Pirelli is the real issue
And whilst the tyres might be manufactured in Turkey, most of the staff will be based and flying in from Italy

You can run races with less cars, but you can't run races without tyres or the tyre manufacture's staff

I believe that most of the Pirelli engineers are from the UK?

My gut feeling is there is not going to be an Australian GP. At least not in March.

With respect to the rules, 5.7 says the event may be cancelled if there are less than 12 cars. That is a little ambiguous. It doesn't say it may be cancelled due to non-attendance ONLY if there are less than 12 cars. It's easy to argue that can still be cancelled even if there are more cars, especially if the reason for those teams is force majeure.

MotoGP looking very amateurish making knee jerk reactions. They changed the calendar last week and they have then changed the calendar again today moving Valencia back a week and moving COTA to November. Im sure it will change again... I dont understand why people travelling to the race (riders, press etc) cant be tested. F1/MotoGP can make concessions for hosting circuits fees with no spectators attending. Its not like there isn't plenty of money to cover the costs

Alex53 wrote:My gut feeling is there is not going to be an Australian GP. At least not in March.

With respect to the rules, 5.7 says the event may be cancelled if there are less than 12 cars. That is a little ambiguous. It doesn't say it may be cancelled due to non-attendance ONLY if there are less than 12 cars. It's easy to argue that can still be cancelled even if there are more cars, especially if the reason for those teams is force majeure.

They don't want to cancel the races because of lost money, they will run the races as none championship races but who wants to watch that?

MotoGP changed the calendar three times in a week!!!

Currently have 10 races in 12 weekends to finish the season...and they're spain to Thailand, Argentina to Spain, Japan to Australia with USA in the mix kind of logistics