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Albon will get 4thX 5th I reckon
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Is there an echo in here?

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mikeyg123 wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Hamilton will win this race IMO. Mercedes made a mistake putting Bottas on softs. They should have put him on mediums. He could have pushed those until the end as opposed to having to manage the tyres.
Bottas is on mediums.
I'm still stuck in 2018 :lol:

I meant hards (white) tyres

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:Hamilton winning the WDC with ease at this race. Bottas, who qualified well ahead of Lewis, might just win the race, but it's not for sure. Yet it's all a conspiracy against Lewis again. Jeepers. Are you all for real?
Have you been watching what's been happening?

I agree it makes no sense.
Due to qualifying, Bottas got a decent lead in the opening stint. He will probably end up winning by a similar amount. For LH to have won this race, if he doesn't, he would have needed a better strategy to Bottas as their fundamental race pace is very similar. I see no reason why LH should have preferential treatment in this race.
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honestly now bottas does not seem to have a big enough pace advantage at the moment to make this a straight forward pass. strange.

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Bottas' pace may well not be enough to get under a second. The traffic could help th
ough.

Edit - Well I was wrong..
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Asphalt_World wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:Hamilton winning the WDC with ease at this race. Bottas, who qualified well ahead of Lewis, might just win the race, but it's not for sure. Yet it's all a conspiracy against Lewis again. Jeepers. Are you all for real?
Have you been watching what's been happening?

I agree it makes no sense.
Due to qualifying, Bottas got a decent lead in the opening stint. He will probably end up winning by a similar amount. For LH to have won this race, if he doesn't, he would have needed a better strategy to Bottas as their fundamental race pace is very similar. I see no reason why LH should have preferential treatment in this race.
I don't think Mercedes have been trying to give Hamilton a race winning strategy.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:Hamilton winning the WDC with ease at this race. Bottas, who qualified well ahead of Lewis, might just win the race, but it's not for sure. Yet it's all a conspiracy against Lewis again. Jeepers. Are you all for real?
Have you been watching what's been happening?

I agree it makes no sense.
Due to qualifying, Bottas got a decent lead in the opening stint. He will probably end up winning by a similar amount. For LH to have won this race, if he doesn't, he would have needed a better strategy to Bottas as their fundamental race pace is very similar. I see no reason why LH should have preferential treatment in this race.
I don't think Mercedes have been trying to give Hamilton a race winning strategy.
But I don't see his strategy as much of a problem as he's leading with only 5 laps to go. That's hardly miles out.
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Max may yet come into this..!
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:Hamilton winning the WDC with ease at this race. Bottas, who qualified well ahead of Lewis, might just win the race, but it's not for sure. Yet it's all a conspiracy against Lewis again. Jeepers. Are you all for real?
Have you been watching what's been happening?

I agree it makes no sense.
Due to qualifying, Bottas got a decent lead in the opening stint. He will probably end up winning by a similar amount. For LH to have won this race, if he doesn't, he would have needed a better strategy to Bottas as their fundamental race pace is very similar. I see no reason why LH should have preferential treatment in this race.
I don't think Mercedes have been trying to give Hamilton a race winning strategy.
But he's been put in the exact position to win this race. Bottas was ahead of Hamilton with fresher tyres on lap 24. Yet Hamilton pit before Bottas, essentially being an undercut.
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Lewis lost the race by three and a half laps. Hardly a massive mistake. Normally, strategy mistakes make drivers finish way way off.
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And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.

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Asphalt_World wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:Hamilton winning the WDC with ease at this race. Bottas, who qualified well ahead of Lewis, might just win the race, but it's not for sure. Yet it's all a conspiracy against Lewis again. Jeepers. Are you all for real?
Have you been watching what's been happening?

I agree it makes no sense.
Due to qualifying, Bottas got a decent lead in the opening stint. He will probably end up winning by a similar amount. For LH to have won this race, if he doesn't, he would have needed a better strategy to Bottas as their fundamental race pace is very similar. I see no reason why LH should have preferential treatment in this race.
I don't think Mercedes have been trying to give Hamilton a race winning strategy.
But I don't see his strategy as much of a problem as he's leading with only 5 laps to go. That's hardly miles out.
The strategy is OK. It's the attitude.

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kleefton wrote:And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.
I don't think it was inevitable. Hamilton made a key mistake when it counted.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
kleefton wrote:And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.
I don't think it was inevitable. Hamilton made a key mistake when it counted.
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mikeyg123 wrote:
kleefton wrote:And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.
I don't think it was inevitable. Hamilton made a key mistake when it counted.
Didn’t Hamilton get that time back when Bottas went off or did Hamilton make another mistake?

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mikeyg123 wrote:
kleefton wrote:And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.
I don't think it was inevitable. Hamilton made a key mistake when it counted.
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JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
kleefton wrote:And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.
I don't think it was inevitable. Hamilton made a key mistake when it counted.
Didn’t Hamilton get that time back when Bottas went off or did Hamilton make another mistake?
Maybe, but backmarkers compromised him a touch - and his tyres are pretty much gone...
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tootsie323 wrote:
JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
kleefton wrote:And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.
I don't think it was inevitable. Hamilton made a key mistake when it counted.
Didn’t Hamilton get that time back when Bottas went off or did Hamilton make another mistake?
Maybe, but backmarkers compromised him a touch - and his tyres are pretty much gone...
Yeah that’s true.

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Not really surprising though is it after that long on the same set!

Ironically a yellow flag at turn 12 will deny an overtake for Verstappen?
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Well done Lewis. Much deserved.
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Get in there Lewis! Six time world champion, what an incredible achievement!

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And as usual, us F1 fans get to see a celeb clapping just seconds after a WDC has been won. Why do they do this?
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Hamilton has done extremely well to eke out this pace on the one-stopper but no defence for the win here. Both Merc drivers have driven an excellent race.

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Congrats to both Lewis and Valteri. Valteri outclassed everyone today. Lewis outclassed the field over the season. 6th world championship fully deserved.

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Congratulations 6 Time World Champion, Lewis Hamilton!
What a career! And more to come :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Supreme race by Bottas and I was very impressed by him today especially given his recent history at this circuit. Great pace, faultless drive.

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See this is what Mercedes should have done in Japan, they got a 1-2 this time.
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pokerman wrote:See this is what Mercedes should have done in Japan, they got a 1-2 this time.
true

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JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
kleefton wrote:And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.
I don't think it was inevitable. Hamilton made a key mistake when it counted.
Didn’t Hamilton get that time back when Bottas went off or did Hamilton make another mistake?
Hamilton badly missed the apex the corner before the overtake.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
kleefton wrote:And the inevitable happens.

Great drive by Bottas though.
I don't think it was inevitable. Hamilton made a key mistake when it counted.
Didn’t Hamilton get that time back when Bottas went off or did Hamilton make another mistake?
Hamilton badly missed the apex the corner before the overtake.
Ah fair enough, shame for him really then

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So another last lap torpedo by Kvyat?
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I enjoyed the race, but I do feel they should be far stricter about cars going outside the track all the time.
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The track would be great with gravel around it.

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I HATE it when the drivers are in the cooldown room and crofty won't stop talking. We miss the discussions. On channel 4 when they were live, Ben Edwards always says lets listen into what they are saying and stops talking unless there is total scilence. Crofty ruins the coverage in so many ways.....

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Fiki wrote:I enjoyed the race, but I do feel they should be far stricter about cars going outside the track all the time.
Also didn't LH force VB off the track and it went unpunished?

Plus Leclerc seemed to move into Albon at the start and Albon moved into Sainz. Not sure who was at fault here out of Albon and Leclerc, I think Albon should have held his ground and not moved more to the right into Sainz. If Albon stayed firm in the middle of the track, maybe Leclerc stops continuing to move right?

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:I HATE it when the drivers are in the cooldown room and crofty won't stop talking. We miss the discussions. On channel 4 when they were live, Ben Edwards always says lets listen into what they are saying and stops talking unless there is total scilence. Crofty ruins the coverage in so many ways.....

Agree entirely.

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F1 Racer wrote:
Fiki wrote:I enjoyed the race, but I do feel they should be far stricter about cars going outside the track all the time.
Also didn't LH force VB off the track and it went unpunished?

Plus Leclerc seemed to move into Albon at the start and Albon moved into Sainz. Not sure who was at fault here out of Albon and Leclerc, I think Albon should have held his ground and not moved more to the right into Sainz. If Albon stayed firm in the middle of the track, maybe Leclerc stops continuing to move right?
People only care about that when Verstappen is the perpetrator.

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And too add to my post about getting annoyed with crofty, stop having people just because they are famous handing out the trophies whhen they try to give them to the wrong driver. The organisation is just a mess when they are trying this hard to improve it. Have somebody who knows what they are doing...

The number of things going wrong when celebs get involved like the flag being waved to early (and waved terribly) in canada one year.

I may have to make a thread about this, but there are just too many things now that are making the coverage worse. The cluttered graphics are yet another "improvement" not!
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Paul di Resta saying nice things about Hamilton so maybe some people were over reacting?
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