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Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:50 pm
by UnlikeUday
For me,

Verstappen, Perez & Ricciardo

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:54 pm
by KingVoid
Ricciardo, Perez, Hamilton

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:56 pm
by wolfticket
KingVoid wrote:Ricciardo, Perez, Hamilton
:thumbup:

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:04 pm
by mikeyg123
Hamilton, Bottas and Perez are easy picks for me.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:07 pm
by JN23
mikeyg123 wrote:Hamilton, Bottas and Perez are easy picks for me.
I didn't vote for Bottas but his performance today will probably go under the radar a bit, his pace was excellent.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:10 pm
by Greenman
UnlikeUday wrote:For me,

Verstappen, Perez & Ricciardo
.

How can you vote for Verstappen (or others for Vettel) after their first lap antics which should have earned them penalties.

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Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:10 pm
by Invade
JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Hamilton, Bottas and Perez are easy picks for me.
I didn't vote for Bottas but his performance today will probably go under the radar a bit, his pace was excellent.

Absolutely. Bottas looked very quick today.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:17 pm
by FormulaFun
Hamilton, Perez and Riccardo are the boys

Shout out to Bottas, good pace

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:39 pm
by Mort Canard
mikeyg123 wrote:Hamilton, Bottas and Perez are easy picks for me.
:thumbup: :nod:

Yeah, Lewis, Valtteri, and Checo with honorable mention for Daniel.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:40 pm
by Exediron
Gotta be Perez.

How Verstappen won the official vote after having one of his scruffiest races of the year is a mystery...

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:44 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
Invade wrote:
JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Hamilton, Bottas and Perez are easy picks for me.
I didn't vote for Bottas but his performance today will probably go under the radar a bit, his pace was excellent.

Absolutely. Bottas looked very quick today.
I find it very amusing that i didn't really think bottas was quite good enough today to be concidered a DOTD given i usually praise him when others don't. He and hamilton had a bad start but Bottas probably more so. Hamilton seemed to get past both McLarens a fair bit quicker than Bottas and built up a gap of nearly 7 seconds (the sort of gap that usually is concidered a comfortable one for Hamilton) Then I think hamilton may have been able to jump vettel because of his early stop, but i feel this also may have been the main reason why Bottas was still close to hamilton at the end.

I have nothing against Bottas and it was a very solid drive and his pace did look pretty close to hamilton, it just surprises me that he is getting votes - especially when i'm not one of them! :D Maybe it is because many thought hamilton was truely outstanding and Bottas wasn't far off. Then i guess that makes more sence.

Think i will go for Hamilton, Ricciardo and Perez.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:45 pm
by BMWSauber84
Perez, Hamilton and Bottas for me. Honourable mention to Ricciardo but I couldn't put him in due to the clumsy attempt to pass Perez.

Vettel's race pace was good, Verstappen was quick but scruffy.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:42 pm
by oz_karter
Couldn’t vote for Hamilton, his performance was less than other drivers. Ferrari strategy won him the race again.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:12 am
by sandman1347
Hamilton, Perez, Ricciardo for me.

I find it scary that Verstappen won the fan vote after the race. I think this coming era in F1 might get very annoying with this influx of new fans who seem to lack any understanding of racing.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:41 am
by Mort Canard
oz_karter wrote:Couldn’t vote for Hamilton, his performance was less than other drivers. Ferrari strategy won him the race again.
It's the old maxim, "Drive as slow as you can and still win the race!" :nod:

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:16 am
by kleefton
Hamilton was the standout for me. After getting shoved off to the grass in the beginning it is pretty remarkable he was able to get back and actually win this race. Even the commentators didn't give him much of a shot. Yes, he benefited from strategy but you still have to make it work and beat some very fast drivers to the checkered flag and he managed to do that. The critical part of his race for me was not just that he was able to stretch the hard tire, but his outlap on those very difficult to warm up hard tires was mega. I have read some people say that Ferrari should have pitted Vettel on the next lap but I don't think that they realize Hamilton had Vettel beat with his outlap. So if Vettel had pitted the following lap he would have came out behind, which is probably why he didn't want to do it. So there was not much Ferrari or Vettel could have done differently unless they chose to pit before Lewis did.

Others that were impressive were Ricciardo and Perez. These guys are two of the best at tire management on the grid.

Shockingly bad performance was Carlos Sainz. Not sure what happened to him but he just completely fell out of the points when he was initially in a good position.
Max was also back to his old impatient and overly agressive self and he paid dearly for that. Albon has been the flag bearer in terms of points ever since he moved to the team.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:00 am
by Mort Canard
kleefton wrote:Hamilton was the standout for me. After getting shoved off to the grass in the beginning it is pretty remarkable he was able to get back and actually win this race. Even the commentators didn't give him much of a shot. Yes, he benefited from strategy but you still have to make it work and beat some very fast drivers to the checkered flag and he managed to do that. The critical part of his race for me was not just that he was able to stretch the hard tire, but his outlap on those very difficult to warm up hard tires was mega. I have read some people say that Ferrari should have pitted Vettel on the next lap but I don't think that they realize Hamilton had Vettel beat with his outlap. So if Vettel had pitted the following lap he would have came out behind, which is probably why he didn't want to do it. So there was not much Ferrari or Vettel could have done differently unless they chose to pit before Lewis did.

Others that were impressive were Ricciardo and Perez. These guys are two of the best at tire management on the grid.

Shockingly bad performance was Carlos Sainz. Not sure what happened to him but he just completely fell out of the points when he was initially in a good position.
Max was also back to his old impatient and overly agressive self and he paid dearly for that. Albon has been the flag bearer in terms of points ever since he moved to the team.
Sainz was a disappointment to me also. At the start he got up into third place and looked poised to start mixing it up with some of the drivers from the big three teams. I am waiting to hear if there were mechanical problems on the McLaren.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:20 am
by tootsie323
Mort Canard wrote:Sainz was a disappointment to me also. At the start he got up into third place and looked poised to start mixing it up with some of the drivers from the big three teams. I am waiting to hear if there were mechanical problems on the McLaren.
I heard on radio commentary a suggestion that the McLaren didn't respond well to the hard tyre. Speculation, but I struggle to understand how Sainz dropped off the pace so badly otherwise.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:44 am
by BMWSauber84
tootsie323 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Sainz was a disappointment to me also. At the start he got up into third place and looked poised to start mixing it up with some of the drivers from the big three teams. I am waiting to hear if there were mechanical problems on the McLaren.
I heard on radio commentary a suggestion that the McLaren didn't respond well to the hard tyre. Speculation, but I struggle to understand how Sainz dropped off the pace so badly otherwise.
This baffles me as both McLaren's had two sets of hards this weekend. Surely they must have tried them out in practice and would have known they had no pace on them.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:27 am
by angrypirate
Masterclass in car and tyre management by Hamilton today. He had damage to his car which would have probably made tyre wear worse yet he still made those hards last for a stupid length of time. I dont think Ferrari could believe he made those tyres last. I suspect the real reason Vettel didnt pit is because they didnt think Veettel could have mad those tyres last as long as Hamilton did

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:16 pm
by Mort Canard
angrypirate wrote:Masterclass in car and tyre management by Hamilton today. He had damage to his car which would have probably made tyre wear worse yet he still made those hards last for a stupid length of time. I dont think Ferrari could believe he made those tyres last. I suspect the real reason Vettel didnt pit is because they didnt think Veettel could have mad those tyres last as long as Hamilton did
Well, Lewis got 48 laps out of the Hard tires. Daniel got 50 laps out of his after he started the race on them. Ricciardo finished 8th. Max got 66 laps out of a set of hard tires while he was making a charge up the order from dead last on the field to finish 6th.

Toto said that they had not considered running that long on the hard tires until Merc saw what Dainiel was doing on his hard tires. Daniel's times had not been dropping off like everyone thought they would.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:21 pm
by tootsie323
Kudos to both Hamilton and Verstappen. Hamilton had to manage a long stint with a damaged car and Verstappen a long stint passing other cars (and the dirty air that comes with it).
I think that Verstappen was unlucky, both with Hamilton and Bottas, so good comeback drive there.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:05 pm
by pokerman
Exediron wrote:Gotta be Perez.

How Verstappen won the official vote after having one of his scruffiest races of the year is a mystery...
I think that is fast showing itself to be a joke, it's more of a popularity contest.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:08 pm
by pokerman
Mort Canard wrote:
oz_karter wrote:Couldn’t vote for Hamilton, his performance was less than other drivers. Ferrari strategy won him the race again.
It's the old maxim, "Drive as slow as you can and still win the race!" :nod:
Well he had 48 laps to do on the tyres, you could see in the first half of that stint that he was clearly pacing himself sometimes going slower than drivers on older tyres.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:09 pm
by Vettel Fan
Got to be Lewis. He made the strategy work. Even if he did complain about it.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:10 pm
by pokerman
tootsie323 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Sainz was a disappointment to me also. At the start he got up into third place and looked poised to start mixing it up with some of the drivers from the big three teams. I am waiting to hear if there were mechanical problems on the McLaren.
I heard on radio commentary a suggestion that the McLaren didn't respond well to the hard tyre. Speculation, but I struggle to understand how Sainz dropped off the pace so badly otherwise.
It was exactly that, the downforce level wasn't sufficient to get the heat into the tyres.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:51 pm
by FormulaFun
pokerman wrote:
Exediron wrote:Gotta be Perez.

How Verstappen won the official vote after having one of his scruffiest races of the year is a mystery...
I think that is fast showing itself to be a joke, it's more of a popularity contest.
Well yeah... Didn't Leclerc win it in Japan aswell of at least was 2nd in the poll

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:26 pm
by ReservoirDog
Hamilton drove well. Richiardo did well too.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:40 pm
by JN23
FormulaFun wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Exediron wrote:Gotta be Perez.

How Verstappen won the official vote after having one of his scruffiest races of the year is a mystery...
I think that is fast showing itself to be a joke, it's more of a popularity contest.
Well yeah... Didn't Leclerc win it in Japan aswell of at least was 2nd in the poll
And Kubica won/was close to winning in Austria :?

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:51 pm
by Covalent
Vettel Fan wrote:Got to be Lewis. He made the strategy work. Even if he did complain about it.
Luckily he did make it work, strangely enough we don't hear people bashing the strategy when it worked out great even though Lewis questioned it again.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:21 pm
by j man
I'll vote Hamilton. Though I am getting increasingly infuriated with his habit of over-dramatising the state of his tyres over the radio.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:09 am
by Mort Canard
Vettel Fan wrote:Got to be Lewis. He made the strategy work. Even if he did complain about it.
Over the years I have begun to wonder if some of Lewis's radio complaining is by design an effort to get Ferrari and Red Bull to react the way he wants them to. If he says my tires won't last they assume that is what will happen and set their strategy accordingly. Then he calmly finishes out the race on that same set of tires without any drama.

Lewis does spend a lot of time grousing on the radio but often the problem is not nearly as big as everyone, including the pundits, think. When the wheels don't fall off Lewis's car Ferrari and Red Bull are simply left watching Lewis head for the checkered flag way in the distance. :lol:

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:11 am
by Mort Canard
j man wrote:I'll vote Hamilton. Though I am getting increasingly infuriated with his habit of over-dramatising the state of his tyres over the radio.
Crazy like a fox??? :D

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:55 pm
by pokerman
Covalent wrote:
Vettel Fan wrote:Got to be Lewis. He made the strategy work. Even if he did complain about it.
Luckily he did make it work, strangely enough we don't hear people bashing the strategy when it worked out great even though Lewis questioned it again.
Apparently it's being mooted that Hamilton performs at his best when he feels his back is against the wall, he kind of creates a situation in order to perform at his best, some have become a bit wise to this and don't always fully believe what he has to say about his tyres.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:04 pm
by F1_Ernie
Covalent wrote:
Vettel Fan wrote:Got to be Lewis. He made the strategy work. Even if he did complain about it.
Luckily he did make it work, strangely enough we don't hear people bashing the strategy when it worked out great even though Lewis questioned it again.
People are entitled to bash the strategy aswell as praise it when it goes right. When Mercedes get it wrong they get it wrong badly but they have got it right twice this season in a big way both times as the car behind. They also undercut for once which is something we hardly ever see Mercedes do.

Hamilton does moan on the radio alot about the tyres, its become a running each race weekend now but in his defence all we heard was how the race was going to be a 2 stopper and Hamilton didn't know the information Mercedes got from Ricciardo and Verstappen running the hards. Also Mercedes do get it wrong alot so there's also not much of a suprise he questions the strategy.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:42 pm
by purchville
Ricciardo. After all, it was he on his long stint on hards, with a full tank, that provoked the eventual race winner’s team to attempt something similar. He was setting similar lap times to those behind him even though they all had new boots. Remarkably consistent and quick.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:52 pm
by purchville
sandman1347 wrote:Hamilton, Perez, Ricciardo for me.

I find it scary that Verstappen won the fan vote after the race. I think this coming era in F1 might get very annoying with this influx of new fans who seem to lack any understanding of racing.
Just enjoy the sport for what you see, not what others say.
Polls like the ‘official’ DOTR are quickly becoming meaningless anyway.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:57 pm
by purchville
oz_karter wrote:Couldn’t vote for Hamilton, his performance was less than other drivers. Ferrari strategy won him the race again.
Not sure I’d go that far, but it was certainly another driver’s strategy that caught Toto’s eye and helped him win the race.

“We saw Ricciardo going long on the hard tyre,” said Wolff. “He was posting green lap times. And then we had quite some discussion, and at the end... we opted to go long for 47 laps.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:01 pm
by Mort Canard
purchville wrote:
oz_karter wrote:Couldn’t vote for Hamilton, his performance was less than other drivers. Ferrari strategy won him the race again.
Not sure I’d go that far, but it was certainly another driver’s strategy that caught Toto’s eye and helped him win the race.

“We saw Ricciardo going long on the hard tyre,” said Wolff. “He was posting green lap times. And then we had quite some discussion, and at the end... we opted to go long for 47 laps.
:thumbup: :nod:

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Mexican Grand Prix

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:02 am
by Blake
sandman1347 wrote:Hamilton, Perez, Ricciardo for me.

I find it scary that Verstappen won the fan vote after the race. I think this coming era in F1 might get very annoying with this influx of new fans who seem to lack any understanding of racing.
post deleted.
Never mind, it's not worth it