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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:42 pm
by JN23
FormulaFun wrote:JN23 wrote:Hamilton and Vettel to one stop?
Probably, Hamilton usually has really good tyre management so should be able to make it
Yeah he does but I can see him struggling vs those on a two stop in the closing stages
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:44 pm
by FormulaFun
I have absolutely 0 faith on that graphic
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
by Greenman
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Well Max managed to get Magnussen ! 16 or so still to go !
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:46 pm
by FormulaFun
What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? Mercedes NEED to undercut vettel with Hamilton of they want to win, they can't even get anywhere near cars ahead
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:46 pm
by JN23
FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel
Here we go!
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:48 pm
by FormulaFun
JN23 wrote:FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel
Here we go!
Very exciting!!! Ok vettel just let them go? Surely thats just not gonna work at all.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:48 pm
by mikeyg123
One stopper looks to be much the better strategy?
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
by FormulaFun
Honestly if hamilton wins this that will be a stunning achievement
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
by mikeyg123
The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
by JN23
FormulaFun wrote:JN23 wrote:FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel
Here we go!
Very exciting!!! Ok vettel just let them go? Surely thats just not gonna work at all.
Assuming they're going for the offset strategy because Hamilton would be passed Vettel after one lap
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:51 pm
by JN23
mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:52 pm
by FormulaFun
JN23 wrote:mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race
Not sure about that, tyres are holding up really well compared to original expectations as long as you look after them
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:53 pm
by Schumacher forever#1
Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:53 pm
by F1_Ernie
Race could come to Vettel and Bottas maybe.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:54 pm
by FormulaFun
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Yes I think that vettel could have repassed Hamilton despite the undercut but now I don't know
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:54 pm
by mikeyg123
JN23 wrote:mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race
Not sure. Leclerc is no faster than Vettel even at this point in the race. For a twos topper to work he would need to be catching him.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:54 pm
by F1_Ernie
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:58 pm
by Invade
I think Merc were way too eager with Hamilton and did stop much too early, but we'll see.
I like Vettel for the win here.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:58 pm
by JN23
Are Vettel/Bottas trying to go medium-soft?
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm
by mikeyg123
I really, really hope we don't get a safety car because this is lining up for a fascination conclusion. A safety car now would ruin everything.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm
by mpls2
Invade wrote:Yes - Max's mishaps have sucked a lot of life out of the race, and it was of his own making.
Merc in damage limitation regarding brake temps. We can see Albon has the pace so imagine the pressure Max could be applying - though they are controlling the pace at the front no doubt.
Wasn;t max's fault.. look carefully at the start, Lewis lost his rear (out of hape) and forced Max off track..
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm
by Invade
mpls2 wrote:Invade wrote:Yes - Max's mishaps have sucked a lot of life out of the race, and it was of his own making.
Merc in damage limitation regarding brake temps. We can see Albon has the pace so imagine the pressure Max could be applying - though they are controlling the pace at the front no doubt.
Wasn;t max's fault.. look carefully at the start, Lewis lost his rear (out of hape) and forced Max off track..
I thought he got the puncture in overtaking Bottas. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm
by Schumacher forever#1
F1_Ernie wrote:Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.
I can only think they over-reacted way too much to Albon pitting. There was no benefit in Leclerc pitting that early. The time gap between each car was going to be constant if he stayed out.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:01 pm
by F1_Ernie
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:F1_Ernie wrote:Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.
I can only think they over-reacted way too much to Albon pitting. There was no benefit in Leclerc pitting that early. The time gap between each car was going to be constant if he stayed out.
I agree with you
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:02 pm
by FormulaFun
No idea who will win this
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:02 pm
by lucifers
bottas might even be ahead of hamiton by race end
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:03 pm
by F1_Ernie
Vettel has Bottas covered with a 1 stop. Leclerc has Hamilton covered if they both 2 stop. Hamilton only wins if he 1 stops but then Vettel probably overtakes him with tyre delta.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:03 pm
by Invade
Here we go, Merc will try to undercut Vet with Bottas. Let's go.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:05 pm
by Invade
This race is EXTREMELY tasty right now.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:05 pm
by lucifers
Invade wrote:Here we go, Merc will try to undercut Vet with Bottas. Let's go.
didn't work
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:06 pm
by F1_Ernie
Hamilton is done now. 4th and needs to pit again.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:07 pm
by mikeyg123
Who was recently arguing that running longer and passing towards the end of the race never comes off?
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:08 pm
by FormulaFun
Yeah think they just pulled the trigger a little early, would he shocked if he gets to the end on those tyres with any kind of pace
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:08 pm
by Invade
Vettel's gonna enjoy this one.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:08 pm
by TedStriker
Lewis to pit again as soon as Vettel passes him? Can't imagine Lewis will make it too easy for Seb to pass after the first lap fun!
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:09 pm
by F1_Ernie
mikeyg123 wrote:Who was recently arguing that running longer and passing towards the end of the race never comes off?
Never works that often for Mercedes. Mercedes just pit Hamilton way to early.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:13 pm
by Mort Canard
Leclerc pit disaster.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:13 pm
by Invade
OOF - Charles has a 6.2 second pitstop.
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:14 pm
by TedStriker
Invade wrote:OOF - Charles has a 6.2 second pitstop.
1.9 for Albon!
Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:15 pm
by Invade
Vettel free to hunt down Lewis for an enjoyable pass on track.