Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:46 pm
HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA Verstappen getting driver of the day
FormulaFun wrote:HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA Verstappen getting driver of the day
How do you think that? Bottas is even quicker than the Ferrari's. And Red Bull have been a no-show.mikeyg123 wrote:This will be a great win for Hamilton. I think the Mercedes was the 3rd best car today.
Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.Greenman wrote:.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?kleefton wrote:The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
I think Red Bull has been the car to have this weekend. Just a gut feeling but if I could pit any car to compete this race in Merc would be my third choice. I could be wrong.Schumacher forever#1 wrote:How do you think that? Bottas is even quicker than the Ferrari's. And Red Bull have been a no-show.mikeyg123 wrote:This will be a great win for Hamilton. I think the Mercedes was the 3rd best car today.
TedStriker wrote:A masterclass in tyre management
Red Bull were probably best. Do you not think though that Merc had the race pace edge on Ferrari? Or close to equal.mikeyg123 wrote:I think Red Bull has been the car to have this weekend. Just a gut feeling but if I could pit any car to compete this race in Merc would be my third choice. I could be wrong.Schumacher forever#1 wrote:How do you think that? Bottas is even quicker than the Ferrari's. And Red Bull have been a no-show.mikeyg123 wrote:This will be a great win for Hamilton. I think the Mercedes was the 3rd best car today.
I don't think that's a problem. The issue is cars not being able to get close to one another.F1_Ernie wrote:One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?kleefton wrote:The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
Don't think he ever got closer than 1.5 seconds.F1_Ernie wrote:One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?kleefton wrote:The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
I've always had a problem with the tyres, nearly every race is a 1 stopper. Today was a 1 stopper aswell when all I read was everyone thinking it would be a 2 stopper at least.mikeyg123 wrote:I don't think that's a problem. The issue is cars not being able to get close to one another.F1_Ernie wrote:One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?kleefton wrote:The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
How?TedStriker wrote:A masterclass in tyre management
They tried the Mercedes strategy of "leave you out for ages on old tyres"froze wrote:Ferrari had the pace but somehow they manage to throw away the win again. How, is possible?
It's easy to do 60 laps on a tyre. Not easy to do it and win the race.Rockie wrote:How?TedStriker wrote:A masterclass in tyre management
Ricciardo did 50 laps
Verstappen almost 60 laps
The hard tyre had no real degradation.
Yes it caught me off guard and led me to overestimate Vettel's ability to make an impact. It was like the cars had a forcefield around them. The hard tyre was just too durable.Rockie wrote:How?TedStriker wrote:A masterclass in tyre management
Ricciardo did 50 laps
Verstappen almost 60 laps
The hard tyre had no real degradation.
Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncturetootsie323 wrote:Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.Greenman wrote:.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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Today was about right IMO. One and Two stopper about even. Both viable. If the cars could get close we would have had a good race.F1_Ernie wrote:I've always had a problem with the tyres, nearly every race is a 1 stopper. Today was a 1 stopper aswell when all I read was everyone thinking it would be a 2 stopper at least.mikeyg123 wrote:I don't think that's a problem. The issue is cars not being able to get close to one another.F1_Ernie wrote:One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?kleefton wrote:The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
Turn 1 was fine. He left plenty of room for Hamilton. No attempt to try and drive him off the track at all.FormulaFun wrote:Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncturetootsie323 wrote:Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.Greenman wrote:.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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He opened his steering after the apex which isn't the racing line but whatever cba to debate that, he just would have been far better served being more methodicalmikeyg123 wrote:Turn 1 was fine. He left plenty of room for Hamilton. No attempt to try and drive him off the track at all.FormulaFun wrote:Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncturetootsie323 wrote:Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.Greenman wrote:.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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Indeed do people not realise that Verstappen caused his own puncture?JN23 wrote:That was a superb drive from Hamilton.
Think Kvyat might take some pain for that move on Hulk at the end.
Also exhibit 268 why the public vote for driver of the day needs binning.
Agreed but why does he have to stick to the racing line? He didn't push Hamilton off. He actively left him room.FormulaFun wrote:He opened his steering after the apex which isn't the racing line but whatever cba to debate that, he just would have been far better served being more methodicalmikeyg123 wrote:Turn 1 was fine. He left plenty of room for Hamilton. No attempt to try and drive him off the track at all.FormulaFun wrote:Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncturetootsie323 wrote:Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.Greenman wrote:.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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Indeed he left Hamilton room more than can said for Vettel off the start.mikeyg123 wrote:Turn 1 was fine. He left plenty of room for Hamilton. No attempt to try and drive him off the track at all.FormulaFun wrote:Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncturetootsie323 wrote:Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.Greenman wrote:.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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His out braking attempt was yes. Whether you blame him for the contact or not is really a matter of opinion.Invade wrote:Wasn't it Max's divebomb on Bottas which led to the puncture? Which is why I said him being a non-factor in the race was his own doing. Can anyone confirm?
That's what happened.Invade wrote:Wasn't it Max's divebomb on Bottas which led to the puncture? Which is why I said him being a non-factor in the race was his own doing. Can anyone confirm?
mikeyg123 wrote:His out braking attempt was yes. Whether you blame him for the contact or not is really a matter of opinion.Invade wrote:Wasn't it Max's divebomb on Bottas which led to the puncture? Which is why I said him being a non-factor in the race was his own doing. Can anyone confirm?