2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:05 pm
Tomorrow it looks like Verstappen versus Mercedes cars for the top step!
Could easily happen but also could be at least one shunt in the 1,2,3 complex of turns. Both Ferraris are going to be trying to get around him and you know Max will be doing his blocking moves.Clarky wrote:I expect both Ferrari's to pass Vestappen into turn 1.
Toto has said they are 90% confident they can fix the car without taking a penalty.Mort Canard wrote:Could easily happen but also could be at least one shunt in the 1,2,3 complex of turns. Both Ferraris are going to be trying to get around him and you know Max will be doing his blocking moves.Clarky wrote:I expect both Ferrari's to pass Vestappen into turn 1.
Will be looking to see if Valtteri has to take a penalty for replacement components or has to start from the pit lane.
I assume the FIA doctors at the medical centre? He was in and out of there quite quickly so assumed they didn't have any concerns.da4an1qu1 wrote:Will Bottas race? I don't know what the protocol is around who determines if a driver is fit enough to drive but given the impact, the audible heavy breathing from Valterri after on the radio, I would be surprised if he raced.
I was a bit distracted watching the session, but it did look a lot longer than usual. Sky showed an instant replay, and when they returned he was still in the car. And also Brundle mentioned that the medical car had been deployed. So there was concern enoughJN23 wrote:I assume the FIA doctors at the medical centre? He was in and out of there quite quickly so assumed they didn't have any concerns.da4an1qu1 wrote:Will Bottas race? I don't know what the protocol is around who determines if a driver is fit enough to drive but given the impact, the audible heavy breathing from Valterri after on the radio, I would be surprised if he raced.
Just watched a replay. I timed it at 115 second from the car stopping in the barrier to Bottas jumping out of the car.da4an1qu1 wrote:I was a bit distracted watching the session, but it did look a lot longer than usual. Sky showed an instant replay, and when they returned he was still in the car. And also Brundle mentioned that the medical car had been deployed. So there was concern enoughJN23 wrote:I assume the FIA doctors at the medical centre? He was in and out of there quite quickly so assumed they didn't have any concerns.da4an1qu1 wrote:Will Bottas race? I don't know what the protocol is around who determines if a driver is fit enough to drive but given the impact, the audible heavy breathing from Valterri after on the radio, I would be surprised if he raced.
Sorry I meant that it seemed like he went to the medical centre after getting out the car and then we were told he had left the medical centre quite quickly. I agree it did take him a while to get out the car though.da4an1qu1 wrote:Just watched a replay. I timed it at 115 second from the car stopping in the barrier to Bottas jumping out of the car.da4an1qu1 wrote:I was a bit distracted watching the session, but it did look a lot longer than usual. Sky showed an instant replay, and when they returned he was still in the car. And also Brundle mentioned that the medical car had been deployed. So there was concern enoughJN23 wrote:I assume the FIA doctors at the medical centre? He was in and out of there quite quickly so assumed they didn't have any concerns.da4an1qu1 wrote:Will Bottas race? I don't know what the protocol is around who determines if a driver is fit enough to drive but given the impact, the audible heavy breathing from Valterri after on the radio, I would be surprised if he raced.
After the penalty Max will be seeing Red regardless of whether the Ferraris are in view. I am almost expecting a collision in the turn 1,2,3 complex on the first lap.Invade wrote:It seems Max will be starting from 4th now. Still, expect a tasty opening few corners of the race!
I even wonder if Merc will be telling their drivers: "Listen... Max is probably in berserk mode so if he even hints at trying an overtake let him go and crash out the Ferrari's and we'll pick up the pieces."Mort Canard wrote:After the penalty Max will be seeing Red regardless of whether the Ferraris are in view. I am almost expecting a collision in the turn 1,2,3 complex on the first lap.Invade wrote:It seems Max will be starting from 4th now. Still, expect a tasty opening few corners of the race!
Well Valteri will be starting even further back if I'm not mistaken so he won't have to worry about it. The drag to the first corner will be interesting with the Ferraris on the first row. I do think it's likely that there will be contact up front.Invade wrote:I even wonder if Merc will be telling their drivers: "Listen... Max is probably in berserk mode so if he even hints at trying an overtake let him go and crash out the Ferrari's and we'll pick up the pieces."Mort Canard wrote:After the penalty Max will be seeing Red regardless of whether the Ferraris are in view. I am almost expecting a collision in the turn 1,2,3 complex on the first lap.Invade wrote:It seems Max will be starting from 4th now. Still, expect a tasty opening few corners of the race!
Valtteri is behind Max in any case. Lewis knows Max's shenanigans very well and will likely allow for them.Invade wrote:I even wonder if Merc will be telling their drivers: "Listen... Max is probably in berserk mode so if he even hints at trying an overtake let him go and crash out the Ferrari's and we'll pick up the pieces."Mort Canard wrote:After the penalty Max will be seeing Red regardless of whether the Ferraris are in view. I am almost expecting a collision in the turn 1,2,3 complex on the first lap.Invade wrote:It seems Max will be starting from 4th now. Still, expect a tasty opening few corners of the race!
Nah, you're good. I realise now that I totally misread that. If that's the case, he should be ok. I was thinking of a driver who missed a race based off of a high g force impact. But it appears I am think of Alonso after Melbourne 2016. And in that instance he actually sustained injuries.JN23 wrote:Sorry I meant that it seemed like he went to the medical centre after getting out the car and then we were told he had left the medical centre quite quickly. I agree it did take him a while to get out the car though.da4an1qu1 wrote:Just watched a replay. I timed it at 115 second from the car stopping in the barrier to Bottas jumping out of the car.da4an1qu1 wrote:I was a bit distracted watching the session, but it did look a lot longer than usual. Sky showed an instant replay, and when they returned he was still in the car. And also Brundle mentioned that the medical car had been deployed. So there was concern enoughJN23 wrote:I assume the FIA doctors at the medical centre? He was in and out of there quite quickly so assumed they didn't have any concerns.da4an1qu1 wrote:Will Bottas race? I don't know what the protocol is around who determines if a driver is fit enough to drive but given the impact, the audible heavy breathing from Valterri after on the radio, I would be surprised if he raced.
So far so goodClarky wrote:I expect both Ferrari's to pass Vestappen into turn 1.
Happened even before the lights went out!!Clarky wrote:So far so goodClarky wrote:I expect both Ferrari's to pass Vestappen into turn 1.
Normal Vettel start then!Mort Canard wrote:Happened even before the lights went out!!Clarky wrote:So far so goodClarky wrote:I expect both Ferrari's to pass Vestappen into turn 1.
There's a long enough drag to the first corner that Hamilton and Verstappen can get a good slipstream and attack them. I don't think they can afford to choreograph the start.jimmyj wrote:I wonder what will take place between the 2 Ferrari cars. I wonder if there will be any sort of team orders.
Why would they?jimmyj wrote:I wonder what will take place between the 2 Ferrari cars. I wonder if there will be any sort of team orders.
Because its a long run to turn one and if they plan to slipstream one another then that gives them the best chance to be 1-2 after turn one. A bit like Russia.Blake wrote:Why would they?jimmyj wrote:I wonder what will take place between the 2 Ferrari cars. I wonder if there will be any sort of team orders.
Not so sure, Leclerc learns fast, he will defend correctly I would have thought. Verstappen will be on a charge though!F1_Ernie wrote:I wonder how Leclerc feels from knowing he will be able to slipstream Verstappen and have the Ferrari engine to now most likely be slipstreamed by his teammate and I reckon Vettel will be leading after turn 1.
I wouldn't bet against it, all the way through turn 3. This should be good.Mort Canard wrote:I will be surprised if there is not a bunch of carbon fibre shards on the track or runoff area by the end of Lap 1.
I don't have an opinion on this either way, but Ferrari has surprised us in the past. Another bit of intrigue that will make the race start even more interesting.JN23 wrote:Because its a long run to turn one and if they plan to slipstream one another then that gives them the best chance to be 1-2 after turn one. A bit like Russia.Blake wrote:Why would they?jimmyj wrote:I wonder what will take place between the 2 Ferrari cars. I wonder if there will be any sort of team orders.
All you can do is take the inside line early which Leclerc didn't do in Russia. You can't stop the car behind from slipstreaming you, Vettel will follow and should come out ahead, unless the cars are equal going into turn 1 and Leclerc pushes Vettel out.Option or Prime wrote:Not so sure, Leclerc learns fast, he will defend correctly I would have thought. Verstappen will be on a charge though!F1_Ernie wrote:I wonder how Leclerc feels from knowing he will be able to slipstream Verstappen and have the Ferrari engine to now most likely be slipstreamed by his teammate and I reckon Vettel will be leading after turn 1.