F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.
One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?
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2018: 12th place
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Podiums: 2nd Germany 2016, 3rd Mexico 2016, 3rd China 2018, 3rd Japan 2018, 2nd Mexico 2018
mikeyg123 wrote:This will be a great win for Hamilton. I think the Mercedes was the 3rd best car today.
How do you think that? Bottas is even quicker than the Ferrari's. And Red Bull have been a no-show.
I think Red Bull has been the car to have this weekend. Just a gut feeling but if I could pit any car to compete this race in Merc would be my third choice. I could be wrong.
mikeyg123 wrote:This will be a great win for Hamilton. I think the Mercedes was the 3rd best car today.
How do you think that? Bottas is even quicker than the Ferrari's. And Red Bull have been a no-show.
I think Red Bull has been the car to have this weekend. Just a gut feeling but if I could pit any car to compete this race in Merc would be my third choice. I could be wrong.
Red Bull were probably best. Do you not think though that Merc had the race pace edge on Ferrari? Or close to equal.
F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.
One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?
I don't think that's a problem. The issue is cars not being able to get close to one another.
F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.
One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?
F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.
One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?
I don't think that's a problem. The issue is cars not being able to get close to one another.
I've always had a problem with the tyres, nearly every race is a 1 stopper. Today was a 1 stopper aswell when all I read was everyone thinking it would be a 2 stopper at least.
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2017: 4th place
2018: 12th place
Wins: Spain 2016, Canada 2017, Malaysia 2017
Podiums: 2nd Germany 2016, 3rd Mexico 2016, 3rd China 2018, 3rd Japan 2018, 2nd Mexico 2018
Yes it caught me off guard and led me to overestimate Vettel's ability to make an impact. It was like the cars had a forcefield around them. The hard tyre was just too durable.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.
Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncture
F1_Ernie wrote:Vettel hasn't made any impression on Hamilton yet, you would at least think he would get in the DRS zone earlier. These tyres are so wierd here.
The hard tire has almost no degradation. Verstappen still lapping within a second of the race leaders on 60 laps old tires. Hamilton should hang on easily.
One of the problems I have with F1 is the tyres. For Vettel to not put any pressure on Hamilton with such a big tyre delta is a joke. Did he even get in the DRS zone?
I don't think that's a problem. The issue is cars not being able to get close to one another.
I've always had a problem with the tyres, nearly every race is a 1 stopper. Today was a 1 stopper aswell when all I read was everyone thinking it would be a 2 stopper at least.
Today was about right IMO. One and Two stopper about even. Both viable. If the cars could get close we would have had a good race.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.
Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncture
Turn 1 was fine. He left plenty of room for Hamilton. No attempt to try and drive him off the track at all.
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.
Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncture
Turn 1 was fine. He left plenty of room for Hamilton. No attempt to try and drive him off the track at all.
He opened his steering after the apex which isn't the racing line but whatever cba to debate that, he just would have been far better served being more methodical
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.
Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncture
Turn 1 was fine. He left plenty of room for Hamilton. No attempt to try and drive him off the track at all.
He opened his steering after the apex which isn't the racing line but whatever cba to debate that, he just would have been far better served being more methodical
Agreed but why does he have to stick to the racing line? He didn't push Hamilton off. He actively left him room.
Wasn't it Max's divebomb on Bottas which led to the puncture? Which is why I said him being a non-factor in the race was his own doing. Can anyone confirm?
IF Max gets "driver of the day" then it shows how low the standard of judgement is ( almost as low as the stewards ).
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Was what happened to him his fault? He's had a great comeback.
Well he tried to drive Hamilton off the track going into turn two which ended up with him dropping back, then he dive bombed.bottas and barged him out the way in the arena for no reason (because obviously bottas would repass down the straight with drs) and get a puncture
Turn 1 was fine. He left plenty of room for Hamilton. No attempt to try and drive him off the track at all.
Indeed he left Hamilton room more than can said for Vettel off the start.
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Invade wrote:Wasn't it Max's divebomb on Bottas which led to the puncture? Which is why I said him being a non-factor in the race was his own doing. Can anyone confirm?
His out braking attempt was yes. Whether you blame him for the contact or not is really a matter of opinion.
Invade wrote:Wasn't it Max's divebomb on Bottas which led to the puncture? Which is why I said him being a non-factor in the race was his own doing. Can anyone confirm?
That's what happened.
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Invade wrote:Wasn't it Max's divebomb on Bottas which led to the puncture? Which is why I said him being a non-factor in the race was his own doing. Can anyone confirm?
His out braking attempt was yes. Whether you blame him for the contact or not is really a matter of opinion.
Well he committed to the move and upped the chances of contact happening. It's just one of those things - there is a risk there, and perhaps most of the time he would have been fine. I'd say he was unlucky but he does up the chances considerably of such incidents occurring.
Verstappen was robbed yesterday. But all things considered he drove a great challenge today.It is best that he came up for the worst for his challenges, but what a drive overall.