2019 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:42 pm

FormulaFun wrote:
JN23 wrote:Hamilton and Vettel to one stop?
Probably, Hamilton usually has really good tyre management so should be able to make it

Yeah he does but I can see him struggling vs those on a two stop in the closing stages

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:44 pm

I have absolutely 0 faith on that graphic

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm

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Well Max managed to get Magnussen ! 16 or so still to go !

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FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:46 pm

What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? Mercedes NEED to undercut vettel with Hamilton of they want to win, they can't even get anywhere near cars ahead

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:46 pm

FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel

Here we go!

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:48 pm

JN23 wrote:
FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel
Here we go!

Very exciting!!! Ok vettel just let them go? Surely thats just not gonna work at all.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:48 pm

One stopper looks to be much the better strategy?

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm

Honestly if hamilton wins this that will be a stunning achievement

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm

The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm

FormulaFun wrote:
JN23 wrote:
FormulaFun wrote:What would the pit window be for a 1 stop? They NEED to undercut vettel
Here we go!
Very exciting!!! Ok vettel just let them go? Surely thats just not gonna work at all.

Assuming they're going for the offset strategy because Hamilton would be passed Vettel after one lap

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:51 pm

mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.

I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:52 pm

JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race

Not sure about that, tyres are holding up really well compared to original expectations as long as you look after them

Schumacher forever#1 · Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:53 pm

Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:53 pm

Race could come to Vettel and Bottas maybe.

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:54 pm

Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?

Yes I think that vettel could have repassed Hamilton despite the undercut but now I don't know

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:54 pm

JN23 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:The two stopper isn't working is it? Albon and Leclerc have been far to slow in this stint.
I think it might come back to the 2 stoppers at the end of the race

Not sure. Leclerc is no faster than Vettel even at this point in the race. For a twos topper to work he would need to be catching him.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:54 pm

Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?

Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:58 pm

I think Merc were way too eager with Hamilton and did stop much too early, but we'll see.

I like Vettel for the win here.

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:58 pm

Are Vettel/Bottas trying to go medium-soft?

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm

I really, really hope we don't get a safety car because this is lining up for a fascination conclusion. A safety car now would ruin everything.

mpls2 · Post by **mpls2** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm

Invade wrote:Yes - Max's mishaps have sucked a lot of life out of the race, and it was of his own making.

Merc in damage limitation regarding brake temps. We can see Albon has the pace so imagine the pressure Max could be applying - though they are controlling the pace at the front no doubt.

Wasn;t max's fault.. look carefully at the start, Lewis lost his rear (out of hape) and forced Max off track..

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm

mpls2 wrote:
Invade wrote:Yes - Max's mishaps have sucked a lot of life out of the race, and it was of his own making.

Merc in damage limitation regarding brake temps. We can see Albon has the pace so imagine the pressure Max could be applying - though they are controlling the pace at the front no doubt.
Wasn;t max's fault.. look carefully at the start, Lewis lost his rear (out of hape) and forced Max off track..

I thought he got the puncture in overtaking Bottas. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Schumacher forever#1 · Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.

I can only think they over-reacted way too much to Albon pitting. There was no benefit in Leclerc pitting that early. The time gap between each car was going to be constant if he stayed out.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:01 pm

Schumacher forever#1 wrote:
F1_Ernie wrote:
Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Anyone else feel Ferrari really messed up their strategy?
Do you think Ferrari reacted to Albon? Ended up being a bad decision, they was top 2.
I can only think they over-reacted way too much to Albon pitting. There was no benefit in Leclerc pitting that early. The time gap between each car was going to be constant if he stayed out.

I agree with you

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:02 pm

No idea who will win this

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:02 pm

bottas might even be ahead of hamiton by race end

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:03 pm

Vettel has Bottas covered with a 1 stop. Leclerc has Hamilton covered if they both 2 stop. Hamilton only wins if he 1 stops but then Vettel probably overtakes him with tyre delta.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:03 pm

Here we go, Merc will try to undercut Vet with Bottas. Let's go.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:05 pm

This race is EXTREMELY tasty right now.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:05 pm

Invade wrote:Here we go, Merc will try to undercut Vet with Bottas. Let's go.

didn't work

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:06 pm

Hamilton is done now. 4th and needs to pit again.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:07 pm

Who was recently arguing that running longer and passing towards the end of the race never comes off?

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:08 pm

Yeah think they just pulled the trigger a little early, would he shocked if he gets to the end on those tyres with any kind of pace

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:08 pm

Vettel's gonna enjoy this one.

TedStriker · Post by **TedStriker** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:08 pm

Lewis to pit again as soon as Vettel passes him? Can't imagine Lewis will make it too easy for Seb to pass after the first lap fun!

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:09 pm

mikeyg123 wrote:Who was recently arguing that running longer and passing towards the end of the race never comes off?

Never works that often for Mercedes. Mercedes just pit Hamilton way to early.

Mort Canard · Post by **Mort Canard** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:13 pm

Leclerc pit disaster.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:13 pm

OOF - Charles has a 6.2 second pitstop.

TedStriker · Post by **TedStriker** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:14 pm

Invade wrote:OOF - Charles has a 6.2 second pitstop.

1.9 for Albon!

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:15 pm

Vettel free to hunt down Lewis for an enjoyable pass on track.